OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[PatsBoy12]

That's not true

It certainly isn't, but new narratives are being invented with every TD pass Brady throws, it seems.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Almost like sacks are a QB stat

I see a pattern here...

ESPN names Giants' Nate Solder one of worst free agent signings of 2018

When the New York Giants signed left tackle Nate Solder to a four-year, $62 million contract this past offseason, the deal was met with a substantial amount of skepticism. Yes, Solder filled a dire area of need for the Giants, but there was no denying they overpaid.…

giantswire.usatoday.com

Patriots' Trent Brown is PFF's highest graded offensive tackle in NFL playoffs

Trent Brown played well for the New England Patriots in the regular season, but he’s taken his game to a higher level in the NFL playoffs. The Patriots’ starting left tackle is the highest graded offensive tackle by Pro Football Focus through the first two rounds of the NFL playoffs. Brown has...

www.nbcsports.com

Las Vegas Raiders RT Trent Brown left off PFF’s top-25 tackles list

Pro Football Focus recently ranked the top-25 offensive tackles in football, and Raiders start right tackle Trent Brown was left off the list.

justblogbaby.com

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Seriously, who could adjust to the ball and catch it while being blanketed the way Evans did in the 4th quarter on Sunday? Even if we don't want to go back years, then last season... who on the roster makes a catch like that?

Yep...the only guys they’ve had that are actual deep threats in New England, due to speed, size, hands or a combination, were:

Randy Moss (for two seasons)
Donte Stallworth (for one season)
Rob Gronkowski (2010-2016 injury, though that wasn’t his main job)
Brandin Cooks (for one season, though he kind of sucked)
Josh Gordon (for about five games)

Not a knock on the Pats WRs. Brown, Branch, Welker, Edelman, Amendola, and Hogan (briefly) all were very good players but just weren’t guys who could win vertical routes.

Tampa has assembled an offense designed for vertical routes, so it makes sense what’s happening. But it’s brainless drivel to think Brady’s deep ball accuracy is the point of variability here rather than the receivers.

 

[PatsBoy12]

Yep...the only guys they’ve had that are actual deep threats in New England, due to speed, size, hands or a combination, were:

Randy Moss (for two seasons)
Donte Stallworth (for one season)
Rob Gronkowski (2010-2016 injury, though that wasn’t his main job)
Brandin Cooks (for one season, though he kind of sucked)
Josh Gordon (for about five games)

Not a knock on the Pats WRs. Branch, Welker, Edelman, Amendola, and Hogan (briefly) all were very good players but just weren’t guys who could win vertical routes.

Tampa has assembled an offense designed for vertical routes, so it makes sense what’s happening. But it’s brainless drivel to think Brady’s deep ball accuracy is the point of variability here rather than the receivers.

Agreed!

I see a Tampa offense that each week is becoming better at striking just the right balance between Brady's shorter stuff and Arians' long ball. It's easy to see the QB and the receivers are getting far more comfortable. The playcalling is also getting better each week. Provided health (both on the injury front and COVID), this offense will be scary in November.

 

[Zarozzor]

Seriously, who could adjust to the ball and catch it while being blanketed the way Evans did in the 4th quarter on Sunday? Even if we don't want to go back years, then last season... who on the roster makes a catch like that?

Obviously Harry, Meyers, and Sanu last year. Brady just sucked!

 

[DropKickFlutie]

This article makes it very clear that it was Tom Brady who chose to leave and didn't want to come back.

Robert Kraft Says Tom Brady Wanted To Leave, Otherwise Patriots Would've Kept Him - NESN.com

Robert Kraft wants to make one thing very clear: It was Tom Brady’s choice to leave. Brady announced Tuesday morning that he will be leaving the Patriots after spending the last two decades in New England. Kraft and Brady met Monday night to talk about the quarterback’s future, and it was at...

nesn.com

 

[PatsBoy12]

Obviously Harry, Meyers, and Sanu last year. Brady just sucked!

Silly me, Bleedthrough. I should have listened to Borg.

 

[PatsBoy12]

This article makes it very clear that it was Tom Brady who chose to leave and didn't want to come back.

Robert Kraft Says Tom Brady Wanted To Leave, Otherwise Patriots Would've Kept Him - NESN.com

Robert Kraft wants to make one thing very clear: It was Tom Brady’s choice to leave. Brady announced Tuesday morning that he will be leaving the Patriots after spending the last two decades in New England. Kraft and Brady met Monday night to talk about the quarterback’s future, and it was at...

nesn.com

Yes, after he realized a deal would not get done. I thought that was widely common knowledge by now?

 

[Deus Irae]

Yes, after he realized a deal would not get done. I thought that was widely common knowledge by now?

It is.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

This article makes it very clear that it was Tom Brady who chose to leave and didn't want to come back.

Robert Kraft Says Tom Brady Wanted To Leave, Otherwise Patriots Would've Kept Him - NESN.com

Robert Kraft wants to make one thing very clear: It was Tom Brady’s choice to leave. Brady announced Tuesday morning that he will be leaving the Patriots after spending the last two decades in New England. Kraft and Brady met Monday night to talk about the quarterback’s future, and it was at...

nesn.com

Except the article only gets into Brady's state of mind on the actual night before his decision to go to Tampa. Of course, at that point the player is the one who chooses where to sign. This was after years of events whereby the team chose not to extend him, and after the Patriots essentially told him or leaked to the press his instructions for re-signing (paraphrasing): "if you want to come back, you need to come to us and then we'll see what we can do - but make sure it's quick because if not, we are moving on."

 

[upstater1]

This article makes it very clear that it was Tom Brady who chose to leave and didn't want to come back.

Robert Kraft Says Tom Brady Wanted To Leave, Otherwise Patriots Would've Kept Him - NESN.com

Robert Kraft wants to make one thing very clear: It was Tom Brady’s choice to leave. Brady announced Tuesday morning that he will be leaving the Patriots after spending the last two decades in New England. Kraft and Brady met Monday night to talk about the quarterback’s future, and it was at...

nesn.com

What does this even mean?

Obviously, a player chooses to leave when they sign a contract. They chose to go to a team that gave them the contract they were seeking.

I'm not understanding the point you're making. The argument has always been, did the Patriots offer Brady the contract they should have offered him after the team won their 3rd Super Bowl in 5 years. They gave him a 1 year deal at $20+m. He took it as an insult and left for another team. That's the debate--whether he should have been given a 2 year deal.

 

[PatsBoy12]

What does this even mean?

Obviously, a player chooses to leave when they sign a contract. They chose to go to a team that gave them the contract they were seeking.

I'm not understanding the point you're making. The argument has always been, did the Patriots offer Brady the contract they should have offered him after the team won their 3rd Super Bowl in 5 years. They gave him a 1 year deal at $20+m. He took it as an insult and left for another team. That's the debate--whether he should have been given a 2 year deal.

But but I heard it was so he could go play with more weapons and it had nothing to do with money. A certain poster put that in the Pats v Chiefs postgame thread.

 

[Guts]

Tricky game today for the Bucs. Short week lots of guys banged up and Bears have a good defense.

 

[Triumph]

Obviously Harry, Meyers, and Sanu last year. Brady just sucked!

Good players dont matter.

Brady ruined Chad Jackson.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Pick sixes: Tied for 1st

Edit:
My mistake

Pick sixes: 1st

He's not "prime" Brady anymore but they're 2-2 at best without him.

I see a pattern here...

ESPN names Giants' Nate Solder one of worst free agent signings of 2018

When the New York Giants signed left tackle Nate Solder to a four-year, $62 million contract this past offseason, the deal was met with a substantial amount of skepticism. Yes, Solder filled a dire area of need for the Giants, but there was no denying they overpaid.…

giantswire.usatoday.com

Patriots' Trent Brown is PFF's highest graded offensive tackle in NFL playoffs

Trent Brown played well for the New England Patriots in the regular season, but he’s taken his game to a higher level in the NFL playoffs. The Patriots’ starting left tackle is the highest graded offensive tackle by Pro Football Focus through the first two rounds of the NFL playoffs. Brown has...

www.nbcsports.com

Las Vegas Raiders RT Trent Brown left off PFF’s top-25 tackles list

Pro Football Focus recently ranked the top-25 offensive tackles in football, and Raiders start right tackle Trent Brown was left off the list.

justblogbaby.com

I mentioned this when Solder left and when we were renting Brown. A bad QB like Winston will make a good-decent OL look bad and a lot worse than it is.

Hoyer's sacks were the visual of that the other night.

But yea Bill had no problem letting legit starting LT walk.

 

[Triumph]

Dont look now but Tampa is the #! ranked team in the NFL per Football Outsiders. Godwin and Fournette have been out. 2020 NFL TEAM EFFICIENCY RATINGS | Football Outsiders

Having Brady helps the Tampa defense tremendously.

 

[Deus Irae]

 

[Deus Irae]

 

[carmelo15]

Imagine being a Patriots fan during their dynasty, watching the laughable jealousy-hate that people have for Brady, and then becoming one of those jealous haters.

That’s worse than jets/Dolphins fans atleast there hate was blinded by there team of choice can’t blame them. But to hate on someone who brought 5 championships to you makes you a dumbass plain and simple

 

[PatsBoy12]