Harry looks quicker

[RedSleevesPinkStripes]

My seat is in section 114, right at the level of that a-hole side judge who called Harry out of bounds. I won't divulge the row number because I worry about getting shivved at halftime by some of the posters here. Anyway, coming on the heals of the missed call and early whistle on the Gilmore fumble, that was the most enraged I have been at any game that I have attended in person.

I believe the side judge's number was 102. Fueled by rage and one too many Red Bull-Vodkas, I actually screamed "I'm going to f*cking kill you!" at that guy. In retrospect, that may have crossed the line, but that was what my heart was telling me at the moment.

I found a photo that I took of the video board showing a slow-mo shot:
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And then this play (no DPI call):
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I also took this photo, mainly to show some friends at home the male cheerleader in mid split, along with a "smdh" text remark.
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Texted this screen shot the following day showing that f*ck face had a great view of the play, despite Boger stating otherwise in the postgame interview.
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Finally, texted this screen shot to some "Brady can do no wrong" friends, asking them why their God, despite having decent protection on the play, didn't throw it to a WIDE OPEN Meyers on the last drive instead of ? a terrible low percentage throw to the corner of the end zone to one of his binkies....can't remember for sure but whatever decision our senile, rookie-hating ex-QB made, it was the wrong one.
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EDIT: Found the box score. The bad throw to a binky was correct, but the specifics of the throw were incorrect. View attachment 27342

I hope that you have enjoyed this tour of my camera roll. Sorry, iapatsfan, no **** pics for you.

Thanks for the Friday morning piss-off tour. Ugh, this fkn league. What a farce that officiating was.

 

[RobertWeathers]

BB dares not do such a thing.

If he did it, High, Chung, Cannon, DMC, Bolden, and Slater will be the only remaining players from the 2014 team.

 

[luuked]

It is not a stretch to say that the referees may have handed Kansas City their Super Bowl with these missed calls in December.

That and the Vikings totally ****ting themselves on the way to a certain victory at Arrowhead when Mahomes was injured.

KC was lucky they even made the playoffs last year.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Edelman also wasn't playing because he wasn't ready at that point. Don't project what he has become after years of hard work onto his 2010-2012 version. Just because the potential was in him doesn't mean he could have just stepped in and accessed it consistently if only Welker was gone.

Are you saying Jules didn't work hard in before 2013? How do you know he wasn't ready in 2012?

The minute he became a starter in 2013 he became a 1000 yd receiver. He had been in the system 4 years already.

All due respect but that pretty much tells me he was ready to be a major contributor in 2012.

 

[Kasmir]

Question: if Harry was that far behind on the fundamentals of being and NFL WR, and in many cases just "doing it wrong", what did the Pats' WR coaches do with him? They had months to work on this stuff. It sounds like the specialist he's working with now is pointing out very basic stuff that he's not heard before.

Recall that they didn't actually have a WR coach last year, Joe Judge took that on while mainlining as Special Teams coach and Head Coach aspirant. Probably a big mistake with two rookie WR's starting...

 

[scott99]

All I ask out of Harry is that he becomes the next Terrell Owens (minus the drama), that’s not too much to ask.

All joking aside, I believe he will have the 2nd most receptions behind Edelman when it comes to Pat’s receivers this year. I think he will have 45+ catches this year, but I expect the Pats to be a run heavy team. Lots of 2 TE sets, run the ball at least 50+ % of the time.

 

[luuked]

Are you saying Jules didn't work hard in before 2013? How do you know he wasn't ready in 2012?

The minute he became a starter in 2013 he became a 1000 yd receiver. He had been in the system 4 years already.

All due respect but that pretty much tells me he was ready to be a major contributor in 2012.

Seriously ? Where did I imply he didn't work hard before ? I said you are making the mistake of projecting the developed player onto a developmental version of himself assuming that it was just the lack of a playing opportunity that prevented him from breaking out earlier.

The reality is that if he was really coming up that strong in practice and was ready to be a major contributor then the Pats would have extended him after Welker left as a cheap and reasonable plan B and not let him become an afterthought in FA.

It took the Giants saying no after a visit and him signing a minimum 1 yr deal to be back on the 2013 team. It all indicates to me that BB & co. certainly didn't project him to be a major contributor at that point.

 

[BTTA]

Recall that they didn't actually have a WR coach last year, Joe Judge took that on while mainlining as Special Teams coach and Head Coach aspirant. Probably a big mistake with two rookie WR's starting...

Yes, I had forgotten that, and you are right. That could be considered a huge mistake, leaving me with a WTF and SMH reaction. It is the first legitimate evidence I've seen that the Pats undervalue the position.

 

[hornetfb85]

Which Harry we talkin here...

Harry Dunne


Harry from Harry and the Henderson’s



Harry Caray



Prince Harry/Carson Wentz



????.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Seriously ? Where did I imply he didn't work hard before ? I said you are making the mistake of projecting the developed player onto a developmental version of himself assuming that it was just the lack of a playing opportunity that prevented him from breaking out earlier.

So you agree JE worked hard from 2009-2012 to put himself in a position to succeed?

...and from 2009 to 2012, I felt very comfortable saying JE would have been very productive in this offense. Sorry you didn't see the same thing.

Remember when Bill tried to move JE ahead of WW in 2012? Only reason he didn't completely overtake him was b/c WW was a better player. Not because JE wasn't already capable.

The reality is that if he was really coming up that strong in practice and was ready to be a major contributor then the Pats would have extended him after Welker left as a cheap and reasonable plan B and not let him become an afterthought in FA.

It took the Giants saying no after a visit and him signing a minimum 1 yr deal to be back on the 2013 team. It all indicates to me that BB & co. certainly didn't project him to be a major contributor at that point.

Meh. Thats business.

In 2012 he hadn't put the numbers up on the field so they weren't going to overpay. In 2013 they let him find his market and were correct in doing so and already had signed Amendola.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

Jules didn't play b/c the greatest slot WR in NFL history was ahead of him on the depth chart.

No one is blocking Harry. He absolutely cannot have a Chad Jackson kind of year.

The point still stands doesn't it? Edelman still got the time to develop

 

[RobertWeathers]

The point still stands doesn't it? Edelman still got the time to develop

Absolutely!

Anyone who has given up/stated Harry has no chance after a single year is flat-out wrong.

 

[notex]

Absolutely!

Anyone who has given up/stated Harry has no chance after a single year is flat-out wrong.

Agreed...

Keep in mind the one year also had the following factors
- Brady was checked out, no Mini Camps/OTAs
- Harry was injured in Preseason, so not many training camp reps with Brady
- Missed half the season
- Brady was pissed off and wouldn't throw to anyone but Edelman/Sanu/White
- OL was suspect...

Not an ideal first year.... IMO I think year 2 is very much a "reset" for Harry/Meyers

 

[RobertWeathers]

Agreed...

Keep in mind the one year also had the following factors
- Brady was checked out, no Mini Camps/OTAs
- Harry was injured in Preseason, so not many training camp reps with Brady
- Missed half the season
- Brady was pissed off and wouldn't throw to anyone but Edelman/Sanu/White
- OL was suspect...

Not an ideal first year.... IMO I think year 2 is very much a "reset" for Harry/Meyers

Yep. I'm not saying Harry will be awesome but I'm not saying hes a bust and won't be successful

 

[upstater1]

Give Harry a break. Brady never liked throwing to rookies, except for Mitchell and Branch and Givens. As soon as rookies like Chad Jackson, Boyce, Dobson, Taylor Price, and Bethel, went to other teams to work with other QBs, they tore it up!

 

[captain stone]

I mean the intersection of the bozos who call Harry a bust with the ones calling Michel a bust is pretty large which shows you what kind of idiots you are dealing with and also reveals what their specific bias is.

Please enlighten us bozos & idiots what exactly our specific bias is, other than, you know, actually watching them play...

 

[patman12]

Please enlighten us bozos & idiots what exactly our specific bias is, other than, you know, actually watching them play...

Limited sample size.

If we see the exact same player this year (or whenever the next season begins), then we can move to the bust conversation.

 

[scott99]

I'm amazed at the anti Harry comments on this thread. You would think you would be happy that he's trying to improve on his weaknesses.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I'm amazed at the anti Harry comments on this thread. You would think you would be happy that he's trying to improve on his weaknesses.

Multitude of reasons...didn't provide immediate gratification....Brady bias....Bitter at previous failed top WR picks...ignorance....they didn't get their draft binky...

 

[Tottie]

I'm amazed at the anti Harry comments on this thread. You would think you would be happy that he's trying to improve on his weaknesses.

I'm happy with his attitude this offseason. I'm looking at Josh - make sure to do whatever it takes to get this kid some confidence.