E!SPN new Deflategate article

[blackglass3]

Here is the link if you want to give them the click. It basically boils down to "Houston was REALLY cheating, we're not sure if the Patriots did anything".

NOW you post this, 5 years later? Good God. It might change a mind or two, which is fine. But where was this critical thinking the week of and the weeks after this was all going down?

What really happened during Deflategate? Five years later, the NFL's 'scandal' aged poorly

 

[Joey007]

Was Mort a contributor?

 

[Tony2046]

BSPN scandalously perpetuated Deflategate for over two years while kissing the NFL's ass for financial gain. Now after the massive layoffs and the loss of over 14 million subscribers over the last several years they've decided to sing a slightly different tune?


"Yet when it was all over, no one could say for sure if Deflategate actually happened. A reasonable person could be left thinking that the investigation itself was the true scandal."

BSPN giving scandal advice to anyone without admitting to or apologizing for their own perpetuation of Deflategate while kowtowing the NFL is just laughable.

No BSPN. Your 2 am "walk through" apology during a ping pong coverage segment doesn't count.


What really happened during Deflategate? Five years later, the NFL's 'scandal' aged poorly

 

[Tony2046]

@mods I didn't see the other thread.

 

[Tony2046]

Here is the link if you want to give them the click. It basically boils down to "Houston was REALLY cheating, we're not sure if the Patriots did anything".

NOW you post this, 5 years later? Good God. It might change a mind or two, which is fine. But where was this critical thinking the week of and the weeks after this was all going down?

What really happened during Deflategate? Five years later, the NFL's 'scandal' aged poorly

It's absurd. And nothing in the article discusses BSPN'S involvement. They were just as complicit if not more.

 

[Clonamery]

@mods I didn't see the other thread.

Working for BSPN now in disguise as a jiffy lube guy?

 

[TB_Helmet]

And when an MIT professor explained that weather conditions could do the same thing, based on the ideal gas law, who could argue? The NFL wouldn't have known either way, because it did not regularly record pounds-per-square-inch readings to that point. For all we know, football deflation occurred naturally every week.

Sentences like this make me confused. It’s like it’s this great mystery if the balls are under inflated. Why doesn’t a reporter just measure the PSI of a football he brings with him to a cold weather game?

It’s obviously years late, but at the time everyone was yelling at each other about whether the IGL could explain the Patriots PSI levels and nobody did an actual ****ing experiment except for the NFL (who never released the results the next year) and a handful of eighth graders who won their science fairs when they showed that the PSI levels were right where they should have been.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Very true, and we didn’t need five weeks, let alone five years, to come to these same conclusions. Nevertheless, I would rather have them write this story, for the entire nation to read, than to allow people to fraudulently compare the MLB scandals to the Patriots and remain silent (again).

 

[Ring 6]

Clearly this means that the penalty for documentarygate will be minor. The nfl had directed its publicity and propaganda department to write patriot favorable articles to soften people for the coming announcement.

 

[Tony2046]

Sentences like this make me confused. It’s like it’s this great mystery if the balls are under inflated. Why doesn’t a reporter just measure the PSI of a football he brings with him to a cold weather game?

It’s obviously years late, but at the time everyone was yelling at each other about whether the IGL could explain the Patriots PSI levels and nobody did an actual ****ing experiment except for the NFL (who never released the results the next year) and a handful of eighth graders who won their science fairs when they showed that the PSI levels were right where they should have been.

It's as though an " MIT professor explaining it" gives some kind of copious merit as to why no one understood the weather explanation.

" The science was soooo hard to understand that we needed an MIT professor to explain it to us"

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Here is the link if you want to give them the click. It basically boils down to "Houston was REALLY cheating, we're not sure if the Patriots did anything".

NOW you post this, 5 years later? Good God. It might change a mind or two, which is fine. But where was this critical thinking the week of and the weeks after this was all going down?

What really happened during Deflategate? Five years later, the NFL's 'scandal' aged poorly

Was Kevin Seifert part of ESPN 5 years ago? Or is ESPN being nice now that NE got knocked out...

 

[PatsWSB47]

Good point

Was Kevin Seifert part of ESPN 5 years ago? Or is ESPN being nice now that NE got knocked out...

Good point. I wonder how many Patriots cheating articles would have been written by now if they were still in?

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Give them some credit. This is as mea culpa as it gets these days. But should have thrown Mort under the bus, put in reverse, run him over about 15 times. Would have less venomous hate for the media if Mort would apologize being wrong and other journalists would call him out.

The rest of the media was fed large amounts of bullsht by the NFL’s propaganda machine. Fake ball numbers, fake science reports, fake “independent” investigation, fake accusations about what Brady did during investigation.

In the end we were all correct in using logic and facts. Nothing happened. Finally the tide has tuned to actual innocence instead of inconclusiveness. I hope fans can start a petition to retroactively remove Brady’s suspension on the eve of his Hall induction. At that point Roger might be gone and the shame will compel them to think about it.

 

[Doctor DDS]

One of the biggest issues about the investigation that gets little coverage is the fact that the NFL allowed the false 11/12 balls losing more than 2 PSI lie to linger when they knew for a fact that it was false. Brady was answering questions based off this false narrative and was unable to provide a plausible explanation as there would not have been one if those numbers had in fact been true. Patriots were told to stand down and were unable to publicly correct them either.

By the time the true PSI numbers came to light and the science had been made public the narrative had already been finalized for many and they had no interest in having their minds changed. (I believe that the majority of commentators knew it was false but went with it due to it being better for ratings) Would love to see a detailed documentary on the scam and how the NFL framed the GOAT and tarnished the image of its most successful team.

 

[borisman]

One of the biggest issues about the investigation that gets little coverage is the fact that the NFL allowed the false 11/12 balls losing more than 2 PSI lie to linger when they knew for a fact that it was false. Brady was answering questions based off this false narrative and was unable to provide a plausible explanation as there would not have been one if those numbers had in fact been true. Patriots were told to stand down and were unable to publicly correct them either.

By the time the true PSI numbers came to light and the science had been made public the narrative had already been finalized for many and they had no interest in having their minds changed. (I believe that the majority of commentators knew it was false but went with it due to it being better for ratings) Would love to see a detailed documentary on the scam and how the NFL framed the GOAT and tarnished the image of its most successful team.

I think this could draw some interest (and backlash from the haters). Almost everyone knows it was stupid and a sham and not sure the producers could get enough people (that matter) on record to comment on this debacle. I would watch it even though it was so deciphered that not sure I'd gain anything that I don't already know.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

The scandal sucked, but we got at least 2 super bowls out of it...

 

[Doctor DDS]

The fact that the NFL went out of their way to "prove" the narrative they wanted is what still baffles me. Are the other owners truly that vindictive that they are willing to bring into question the integrity of their own league by creating a sham report (rhetorical question obviously)

By hiring a "paid expert" like Exponent they were clearly seeking a guilty verdict. Why not just let the facts fall as they may? They did the same thing to the Saints and that baffles me as well.

It's what makes me somewhat worried about current scandal with the Bengals. My sense of their motive - "if we can find nefarious behavior good for us, if not let's just create it".

 

[sb1]

I still think the Patriots should have done a public demonstration at halftime of a game on a cold day- take measurements at the start, half and end of game of footballs and show the results on the scoreboard for all to see.

Maybe Kraft didn’t want to embarrass his good buddy Roger.

 

[XLIX]

This is the second time in the past month I’ve read an article about deflategate where the writer - someone who presumably gets paid to cover sports - erroneously claimed Brady filed suit to overturn his suspension.

Maybe I’m not picking too much, but to me that is a big error. Brady never filed any suit of any kind. He appealed the suspension to the league but then *they* were the ones who filed suit via their “motion to confirm.” It was a classic case of venue shopping. Then, after they lost round one, the league filed an appeal to the District Court which, unfortunately, they won.

 

[patman12]

I have countered so many people’s misperceptions on this by asking them if the low tire pressure light ever goes on In their cars with a temperature drop. They all have said yes. It’s been easier than explaining the ideal gas law.