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Patriots Pregame Thread “We’re onto Buffalo...”

Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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Dangerous...


See, this is what I mean right here. Anyone scared of probable QB bust Josh Allen, hasn't been paying attention.
 
I believe we have the Tie-Breaker regardless if we lose this game

first tie breaker is head to head, if we lose its tied

Second tie breaker is division record, neither teams have lost within the division

Third tie breaker is common opponents, Bills have lost to Browns and Eagles both teams we beat

Am i correct here?

Well, Buffalo has 1 division loss, but by beating us we would then also have 1. So you're right, and not right at the same time
 
Going to be a tough game. I suspect brian daboll will run a lot of no huddle which he has been successful with and was in the previous meeting. Our oline is going to have a hard time and with brady's elbow , it doesnt seem like the best matchup . We just probably should focus on playing defense and protecting the ball and take advantages of any chances and find a way to win.
 
If we can’t beat the Dolphins at home without Edelman we don’t have a prayer in the playoffs.
If we don't have a bye we don't have a prayer in the playoffs either...
 
I think the Goodell ordered cheating for KC is tied to affecting seeding. He did this in Denver in 2015 with that phantom push off call on Gronk to get Manning and Denver homefield WHILE ignoring Manning's HGH cheating, covering that up. I think for that to be true, we're going to see officiating shenanigans again this week.

Were I to believe this about officiating edicts, I'd not waste any of my time following the NFL.
I DO believe that Goody does stuff like smothering Manning HGH investigations. Quite different.
 
I don't think we can. Don't we have to win out to keep the #2 seed? The Chiefs have one more loss than us. It's the only thing keeping them from overtaking us for the 2nd seed.
I think the hope is that they can win in Miami without him.
 
Question.

Theoretically, if the Jets lose to the Bills week 17, will we win the division no matter what the outcome is of this game?
 
Each of the last 3 games has/will be critical.

Beating CIN gave us a playoff spot.
Beating BUF gives us the division.
Beating MIA gives us a bye.

Game is absolutely critical.
 
If we don't have a bye we don't have a prayer in the playoffs either...

How much does playing the #6 seed mean? .

But, yes, being the #2 seed is important.
 
Bills defense is the best and most consistent in the NFL in my opinion.

Their front 7 is scary and their DB's are also excellent. That is what drafting many years high up in order and having a QB on a rookie contract will allow for (they can sign many good FA's each year). But under their new FO they have made great draft picks and their FA signings have been excellent.

They have hit on Edmunds, Oliver and Tre White, but those are the only 3 premium picks.

Shaq Lawson was considered a bust until this season.

I'm actually more impressed by their free agency guys. Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer. Matt Milano is really good too but he was a 5th rounder.
 
Question.

Theoretically, if the Jets lose to the Bills week 17, will we win the division no matter what the outcome is of this game?
Yes. Bills need to win out and the Pats need to lose out, in order for the Bills to win the division.
 
Going to bring this up now, so I am on record:

I think the Goodell ordered cheating for KC is tied to affecting seeding. He did this in Denver in 2015 with that phantom push off call on Gronk to get Manning and Denver homefield WHILE ignoring Manning's HGH cheating, covering that up. I think for that to be true, we're going to see officiating shenanigans again this week.
That Denver game was so horrible. I'm not sure the league wants to 'help' buffalo though. I think they'd be happy watching us lose in the AFC Championship.
 
Building on momentum, this feels like a Harry/white game. Assuming T White may be following Edelman around, I think Harry's gonna make some plays. If you're Brady, I think you have to be encouraged by what you saw from him, he may be a solution.

Really have no idea what to make with Sanu/Dorsett. If Sanus still ailing, I'm not expecting much, and who TF knows if we'll see anything with Phil.
 
That Denver game was so horrible. I'm not sure the league wants to 'help' buffalo though. I think they'd be happy watching us lose in the AFC Championship.

I think they might. Pegula needs a new stadium badly. Think the Rams in LA needing hype last year vs the Saints.
 
They have hit on Edmunds, Oliver and Tre White, but those are the only 3 premium picks.

Shaq Lawson was considered a bust until this season.

I'm actually more impressed by their free agency guys. Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer. Matt Milano is really good too but he was a 5th rounder.

Hyde's a solid cast off from GB, but do anything about Oliver yet? I mean, he's a top 10 pick, but I haven't seen anything eye popping from him much yet.

Lawson is absolutely a bust via Rex Ryan choosing him because his son went there. Same thing with Sammy Watkins (not a bust, but he was always hurt and is in no way a #1 WR at 14 mil per).

Anyway, they certainly have a good D, I just don't think their offense is much of anything.

With regards to Edmunds, wouldn't this be a nice game for the Pony/2 Back Set trying to isolate one of the RBs on him?
 
Bills fans as delusional as ever in their forum. This is the changing of the guard game! I’ve heard that the past 5 seasons from those dimwits.
 
I don't think we can. Don't we have to win out to keep the #2 seed? The Chiefs have one more loss than us. It's the only thing keeping them from overtaking us for the 2nd seed.

I would love if kc loses at Chicago sunday night, not sold on Chicago but its possible. That and us beating buffalo would clinch the 2, then for sure we could sit him. If a win is needed he’d probably be active again but used sparingly
 
I expect another ugly game....
 
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