Reports/Speculation: Texans will pursue Caserio AGAIN after 2020 Draft/UPDATE - Rumor: He wants out

[n6249c]

Absolutely insane that he has some clause in his contract about interviewing with other teams. If that’s true why the hell would he sign that?

bigger salary for signing that clause

Maybe he is happy with his job and his home life and has no interest in leaving, and could get paid some serious coin for accepting a clause that prohibited him from doing something he had no desire to do?

 

[maust]

It should be merged.

Or deleted. Volin? Seriously? If he reported today was Monday I wouldn't trust the calendar that backed him up. Dude is wrong more than Charlie Casserly

 

[n6249c]

You had me agreeing until you said no one is irreplaceable except BB. I would add TB to that list, and maybe even JMcD. When one of those 3 goes, but in my mind especially Brady, a return to the pack is a likely (though depressing) scenario.

Disagree. Just look at what BB has managed to get out of Brady's replacements when TB was not available, and then look at what Cassell, Garapollo, and Brissett have done elsewhere. BB will keep the Pats from falling back to the norm when Brady finally leaves.

The one person other than BB that might arguably be irreplaceable is Scar, IMHO.

 

[Patriot Missile]

Title is misleading.. Needs to be changed to VOLIN RUMOR:

Oh but wait. Thought he was defacto 1 when it came to the pulse of the Patriots. He’s really got it dialed in.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

PFT is suggesting the clause is against league rules yet Tagliabue set the market when the Jets had a similar clause for Belichick. People were fine with it then but now that it’s the Patriots invoking it they want to claim it’s illegal. Caserio clearly knew what he was signing and agreed to it.

That's not the same. BB was under contract to be the HC of the NYJ. He then quit. I don't recall the battle between BB, NE, and NYJ having anything to do about "no interview" clauses. It was all about whether or not Parcells's resignation was real enough to trigger the clause that made BB the HC of the NYJ (at which point becoming HC of NE would be a lateral move and something NYJ could therefore block) and what rights NYJ had to BB.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Seems to be a pretty big misunderstanding of the common at-will employment versus contract employment often used at upper levels.

I would be interested to see if a team were to challenge the NFL in court. Yes, they are part of the NFL in one sense, but then again this is a binding employment contract. Once the contract has been approved and signed, I don’t know if the NFL has the legal authority (as decided by a federal court) to override a clause like this.

Of course it can. If there's a rider on every contract (and I bet there is) that says any contract provision which conflicts with any NFL rule in place when the contract is signed is null and void, then when challenged a court is going to refuse to enforce it because both parties agreed to that language. And I further bet that the NFL Constitution and Bylaws that all teams agree to has some language in it saying that if a team signs a contract without such an NFL supremacy clause, the team is subject to being penalized by the NFL.

 

[fnordcircle]

You guys attacking Volin's credibility are playing the wrong game. It was pretty clear he was doing the math not that he had a scoop.

You should be discussing the logic of what he's saying. It's a fair inference to draw - that the whole episode dragged out a lot longer than it would have if Caserio would have told the Pats he has no interest the moment the Texans expressed interest.

 

[Kevyn87]

Dude is wrong more than Charlie Casserly

Whoa, let's take it easy. Volin has a family and they could be reading this.

 

[luuked]

You should be discussing the logic of what he's saying. It's a fair inference to draw - that the whole episode dragged out a lot longer than it would have if Caserio would have told the Pats he has no interest the moment the Texans expressed interest.

Even if Caserio had no interest taking the job why would he destroy his own potential leverage by telling the Patriots he has no interest?

The best thing he can do is essentially repeating "I am currently an employee of the Patriots, my contract runs until 2020" on a loop and let everyone else draw their own conclusions. Maybe he wants to leave, maybe he wants to have a shot for a payday like Joe Douglas.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Whoa, let's take it easy. Volin has a family and they could be reading this.

Yea, a family of sock puppets

 

[Ivan]

Of course it can. If there's a rider on every contract (and I bet there is) that says any contract provision which conflicts with any NFL rule in place when the contract is signed is null and void, then when challenged a court is going to refuse to enforce it because both parties agreed to that language. And I further bet that the NFL Constitution and Bylaws that all teams agree to has some language in it saying that if a team signs a contract without such an NFL supremacy clause, the team is subject to being penalized by the NFL.

After everything they have gone through with the league I don’t believe they would write a contract that didn’t comply with league rules.

 

[Ivan]

That's not the same. BB was under contract to be the HC of the NYJ. He then quit. I don't recall the battle between BB, NE, and NYJ having anything to do about "no interview" clauses. It was all about whether or not Parcells's resignation was real enough to trigger the clause that made BB the HC of the NYJ (at which point becoming HC of NE would be a lateral move and something NYJ could therefore block) and what rights NYJ had to BB.

I wasn’t referring to the no interview clause, I was referring to the clause binding BB to the Jets even when Parcells move was a clear ploy to keep him away from NE, which Parcells proved by going on to coach multiple teams after claiming he was done coaching.

 

[PatsWSB47]

You guys attacking Volin's credibility are playing the wrong game. It was pretty clear he was doing the math not that he had a scoop.

You should be discussing the logic of what he's saying. It's a fair inference to draw - that the whole episode dragged out a lot longer than it would have if Caserio would have told the Pats he has no interest the moment the Texans expressed interest.

Of course hes doing HIS math. Volin's math formula misses part of the equation on purpose because considering it would destroy his hot take headline. Caserio taking a little time to consider what the Texans were offering is entirely plausible. It's quite a leap from that to "Caserio wants out", but leap he did because writing that Caserio might be considering moving on wouldn't even get a look. Volin's math formula for everything: "This + that = all is not well in New England" First rule in local sports "journalism"....Go right to the negative.

 

[BTTA]

...First rule in local sports "journalism"....Go right to the negative.

And the reason that works so well?

 

[Vatahala]

Listening to a good offer elsewhere is a wise move by Nick considering he's up for a new Pats contract in 2020. It doesn't mean he wants to leave but that he's just fairly compensated.

 

[PatsWSB47]

And the reason that works so well?

Rhetorical

 

[TommyD4207]

It does sound like Caserio wanted the Texans job. Now I do not think tampering should be condoned or rewarded, so the Pats were right to raise a stink. But if he really wants to go, I doubt he would be really missed.

I'm pretty sure I disagree with every single word of this.

 

[maust]

Whoa, let's take it easy. Volin has a family and they could be reading this.

That gene pool is a puddle

 

[Taco]

If the the rumor is true, can we trade him? And what could we possibly get? I'd hate to have a guy half in when it comes time to grind this season.

 

[TommyD4207]

Source? Bueller? Bueller?

Exactly, and this is why it's gross PFF even gave it the time of day, or that the Globe allowed it to run.

At least Wickersham had 'unnamed' sources. That means someone actually talked to him. Volin admitted he has NO sources for this. I mean, unless Google is a source.