OT: Trent Green Seriously Injured

[patchick]

I'm very glad to hear that the news seems good.

That said, if Trent Green were my husband I would threaten to leave him if he ever put on a football uniform again.

 

[unoriginal]

One other thing I have to add--I dunno about you, but personally, I think that being called for taunting an unconscious person should be grounds for ejection.

Competitiveness or no, Trent Green wasn't even moving at the time.

It was unintentional, so there won't be any suspension (and probably not even a fine) over the hit itself, but if I coached Houston, I'd fine him a game check (minimum) for that post-hit #@!#.

To be fair to Travis Johnson, that was a pretty dirty hit by Green. Weren't you furious about the block Bobby Wade made on Rodney Harrison last year?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

To be fair to Travis Johnson, that was a pretty dirty hit by Green. Weren't you furious about the block Bobby Wade made on Rodney Harrison last year?

Let me watch it again, and I'll get back to you about how dirty it was.

But to answer your other question--yes, I was furious about that hit, and even more furious about the spearing on Brady.

 

[Captain Cool]

Seriously, at this point, Trent should think about retirement. Maybe he should talk to Ted Johnson about what he's dealing with now. Some guys are just more susceptible to concussions and Trent is one of them.

 

[PittPatriot]

I am surprised that people are not making a bigger issue of Green putting his helmet on the DL's knee. I am sure it was not intentional, but if Vince Wilfork were the the defensive player and this happened or if there was an actual injury, I think we'd be in an uproar. I don't blame the DL for taunting Green after the play, especially if he felt his knee was at risk.

Am I just missing the point?

 

[DaBruinz]

No you're not missing the point necessarily. I mean it's one thing to be upset about the low block, but to stand over a guy who is literally lifeless and yell (most like obsenities) at a guy who's unconcious, what kind of person does that?

Well, according to all reports after the game, Green never lost consciousness. So, its kind of hard to say that he was lifeless.

As for what kind of guy does that, a guy who is pissed that you could have ended his young career. And one that is pissed that you needlessly threw your body in harms way.

 

[reflexblue]

regardless of your intent, your original comment was in very poor taste. If that's what it takes to get a post count above 1500, I hope I never get there. Jumping on the new guy is like coming home from work and kicking the dog because you had a bad day at work.

I don't care about my post count. What I do care about is my integrity as a person,a fan,and a member of this board. When I went back and read what I wrote I was embaressed,it came off like I was happy the Green got hurt. That was never my intent. I am not sure with out looking how many posts I've written.But this is the first I've ever deleted.Its also the first post that anyone has commented negativley about. I went back reread it,found it coming off in poor taste and got ride of it.Everyone makes mistakes,what seperates thoses who make the mistakes is how they handle the adversity of makeing the mistake. If I make a mistake I own it. As far as jumping on a guy for calling me a loser. He obviously hasn't been around long enough to throw those kind of accusations around. I doubt if he has read many,or even any of my posts. So he made a judgement on one post. Nothing like a rush to judgment. When I critisized someone for constantly attacking anyone that didn't aggree with them at least I read 6-8 of that persons posts before I called him on his behavior..

Now as far as you go dragda, I went back to reread my post after seeing the injury on tv (it was ugly) I read some of the comments posted about what I wrote, and posted that YES it was wrong to post what I did. Then I deleted the post. SO in doing so I said your right,I'm sorry for posting it and it'll be erased. If you CAN'T ACCEPT someone owning up to their mistake that says alot about you. Because thats how you come off. After I wrote my post agreeing it was in bad taste. Now its YOUR turn to show some charecter.

 

[reflexblue]

Yeah reports said Cam Cameron visited Green in the hospital immediately after the game and in talking to him you couldn't tell that anything had even happend to him.

I can't defend Trent for going low on Johnson, he probably shouldn't have done it. But Johnson should keep his head on a swivel, what if that was a big LT and the LT had just laid him out and Johnson got the concussion?

I don't know, the whole situation prior to the taunt is a little fuzzy certainly with shades of grey but when he got up there's no way he didn't see Green completely limp. To bounce up, see that, and react the way he did; total classlessness.

I used to joke with you about Green not lasting the season because of concussions,but I have to admit I never imagined a hit like that to Greens head. Its football and people are flying around making split second decisions. So I beleive its nobodys fault I just hope Green recovers and retires.Miami's going no where. Another hit like that could be a very serious threat to Greens health. I think its time to put Beck in,and see what he has.

 

[RayClay]

Yes. But this wouldn't be the first time that NFL coaches have minimized the seriousness of concussion because they have an interest in seeing a player back on the team. In rugby, when a player has a concussion, he has to sit out for three weeks -- and no nonsense about whether the concussion is "major" or "minor". The NFL's doctors have, by contrast, been far too reluctant to assert the interests of their patients, rather than following the interests of the team. For a guy who has already had one serious brain injury to continue playing after another strikes me as folly.

Oh, and in other news, I don't think that Dierdorf referring to Green as the definition of competitiveness is too bad. What about the announcer who was covering the Colts-Bucs game who said (and indeed repeated) that Jeff Garcia's "unmeasurables are off the charts"? Now that's what I call stupid.

You are correct. Umeasurables would be off the unchart....that they would be on if they weren't off it.:bricks:

 

[DarrylS]

It's not Beck time just yet. He was inactive today and that tells me he isn't fully in grasp of the playbook yet. He'll be there real soon, he has the right attitude about it and today after one series Lemon sat on the bench and Beck almost beat his butt to the pine with photos and a playbook and immediately started asking questions. This kid has the right attitude and will be a good QB, I can say that with confidence and sincerity.

All this is well and good, but does he have the ability???

 

[mojocaster.com]

How long before the Dolphins call Drew to see if he's available?

BTW, I have no idea if this already was brought up in this thread... couldn't be arsed to read the whole thing.

Oh yeah, and my thoughts to Trent and his family. Retire, already. This is your health we're talking about. Trent is eloquent, good looking, smart, he can get a TV gig for sure.

 

[Keegs]

Trent Green hurt his head and it was his own fault.

He shouldn't have been trying to take out another player's knees.

It's not like someone came and jump kicked his head, he went for a cheap block and payed a price.

It is nice to see that he's ok though.

 

[Gumby]

The NFL can say that was a "clean block" but it sure looked dirty. (I want to see where or on what show the NFL said that was a clean hit - I dont believe it.

Coming at someone from their blind side and going straight for their knees. I mean the guy with the ball is faster than a DLman. All Green had to do was get in his way a bit and block a direct route to the runner.

I can fully understand the DL guy's anger if he thought Green was trying to put a career ending and lifestyle altering hit on him.

I view the concussion as INSTANTANEOUS KARMA.

Feel bad for Green and hope he is ok. I think he is a good guy who made a REAL BAD DECISION; mostly because he is not normally asked to block so he did a real sh!tty job of it.

 

[Keegs]

You're wrong, the NFL said the hit was clean. Do you want him to attempt to block a guy 100 pounds heavier then him high?

i could care less what he attempts. I guess if i was in the mood for a good laugh i'd like to see him try, but that's besides the point.

His block was cheap, directed at a defensive player's knee.
Now whether the league says that's "bad" or not doesn't mean a damn thing to me.

I don't need the NFL to define a cheap shot for me.

He was the cause of his own injury.

 

[primetime]

The block was fine. Oh no, don't go after the opposing player's knees! Maybe they should just play flag football. Oh, wait, that might be dangerous, someone might get kicked going after a flag, and you still have to block. How about two hand touch? Nah, still a risk of injury. Let's just play the NFL season out on Madden. Even then, risk of carpal tunnel or something.

Travis Johnson is a prick for taunting a guy who was unconscious. The fact that you guys are defending him for doing it simply because Trent Green is a Miami Dolphin are pretty sad; Green probably doesn't remember half his childhood by now (you're talking about lifestyle changing injuries...). So what, he went after his knees? Like Green said, Johnson's 100 lbs+ heavier than him; THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TAUGHT TO DO. That's how you play football, folks! And nothing happened to Johnson, in the end. Green was hardly attempting to injure him.

If this was Brady you'd be screaming for Johnson's head. I would too. Give me a break.

 

[Keegs]

The block was fine. Oh no, don't go after the opposing player's knees! Maybe they should just play flag football. Oh, wait, that might be dangerous, someone might get kicked going after a flag, and you still have to block. How about two hand touch? Nah, still a risk of injury. Let's just play the NFL season out on Madden. Even then, risk of carpal tunnel or something.

Travis Johnson is a prick for taunting a guy who was unconscious. The fact that you guys are defending him for doing it simply because Trent Green is a Miami Dolphin are pretty sad; Green probably doesn't remember half his childhood by now (you're talking about lifestyle changing injuries...). So what, he went after his knees? Like Green said, Johnson's 100 lbs+ heavier than him; THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TAUGHT TO DO. That's how you play football, folks! And nothing happened to Johnson, in the end. Green was hardly attempting to injure him.

If this was Brady you'd be screaming for Johnson's head. I would too. Give me a break.

if it was Brady, I'd call him an idiot for trying to take down a 400 pound behemoth by the knees with his head.


If you don't want to hurt your head, then quit driving it into other player's knees.

 

[primetime]

if it was Brady, I'd call him an idiot for trying to take down a 400 pound behemoth by the knees with his head.

If you don't want to hurt your head, then quit driving it into other player's knees.

Right. So when Faulk cuts an opposing defensive lineman, off with his head.

That's how you're taught to block as a smaller guy.

 

[unoriginal]

The block was fine. Oh no, don't go after the opposing player's knees! Maybe they should just play flag football. Oh, wait, that might be dangerous, someone might get kicked going after a flag, and you still have to block. How about two hand touch? Nah, still a risk of injury. Let's just play the NFL season out on Madden. Even then, risk of carpal tunnel or something.

Travis Johnson is a prick for taunting a guy who was unconscious. The fact that you guys are defending him for doing it simply because Trent Green is a Miami Dolphin are pretty sad; Green probably doesn't remember half his childhood by now (you're talking about lifestyle changing injuries...). So what, he went after his knees? Like Green said, Johnson's 100 lbs+ heavier than him; THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TAUGHT TO DO. That's how you play football, folks! And nothing happened to Johnson, in the end. Green was hardly attempting to injure him.

If this was Brady you'd be screaming for Johnson's head. I would too. Give me a break.

The only place you're supposed to stick your head is on (1) the ball, or (2) the numbers of the man you're drive blocking.

Anything else is a concussion or fractured vertebrae waiting to happen.

 

[primetime]

The only place you're supposed to stick your head is on (1) the ball, or (2) the numbers of the man you're drive blocking.

Anything else is a concussion or fractured vertebrae waiting to happen.

So his head hit the knee instead of his shoulders. You do go for the knees, though; the fact that his head hit was the more the result of a) him being a quarterback who can't block and b) the other guy moving too. It looked like he meant to put his shoulders into the knees, which is what you're supposed to do and would accomplish the same thing without the cracked spine.

 

[SmokeShowin]

I just hope he comes out of this without any serious repercussions. Not a phins fan, but this is a man's life we're talking about.

Also glad it didn't cause an injury to the defender, It had the pontential to be much worse.