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50 Years ago today.... Congrats to JETEs on their big anniversary


Immediately when the merger took effect, all that ridicule was redirected toward the Patriots.

And remains there to this day.

All, except, that is, the Patriots. Sure, Sullivan was cheap and Boston wasn't in the limelight.

But, the key point is that while most players, coaches and fans around the country disparaged and hated us, those guys who came here and played with grace and character, especially in the 60's and 70's, really elevate the Patriots franchise above all the others in football. If Kraft ever noticed this, he would never continue the ugly makeover perpetrated in 1993 out of sheer ignorance, stupidity and incompetence.
Any ridicule directed toward the Patriots during the Sullivan era was richly-deserved. The Sullivans were, indeed, cheap. And on a list of 100 reasons why they were responsible for the ineptitude of most of those teams, being cheap was about #92. I'll leave it at that.
 
Color me amazed that a perfectly good adjunct to this golden anniversary of JETE irrelevance has once again been turned into an "I hate our logo thread"

Eh well, to each his own.

The quaint cartoon character logo might not be unrelated to any excessive ridicule the Pats endured. During the Grogan years, a time or two we were pre-season favorites to win the SB... still seemed it would never happen.

The real way to analyze this is that you cant believe what hasn't happened before... the stupid way is to say "figures they never won, their logo wasn't cool."

ENOUGH ALREADY with the logo.

(Just my opinion. I know that your opinion is that the logo is behind all the trouble the Pats have ever endured. How you got to that conclusion, despite the comparative records of the Pat Patriot and Flying Elvis logos, is so far beyond my powers of comprehension that no further exegesis will enlighten me.

To coin a phrase, I guarantee it.)
 
I don't know about the AFL days, except that they knocked us out of the playoffs once or twice.

But the animosity and hatred on the field really picked up in the 70's - which, by the way, is when the Patriots established themselves as contenders in the modern pro football era.
The Titans/Jets never played the Patriots, or any other team, in the playoffs until that 1968-69 SB winning team. In that season, they beat Oakland to get to the SB.
 
Gerry Philbin owned a bar in Pawtucket, RI. I used to drop in for a few beers and talk shyt with him about his playing days with the Jets, and Joe Willie. THAT was a man. Gerry told me they knew they could win in the first half when Emerson Boozer ripped off chunks of yardage. Play action in the 2nd half proved that right.
 
The Titans/Jets never played the Patriots, or any other team, in the playoffs until that 1968-69 SB winning team. In that season, they beat Oakland to get to the SB.
They knocked us out in the last regular season game in '66.
 
Any ridicule directed toward the Patriots during the Sullivan era was richly-deserved. The Sullivans were, indeed, cheap. And on a list of 100 reasons why they were responsible for the ineptitude of most of those teams, being cheap was about #92. I'll leave it at that.
Ridicule of the Sullivans, yes.

Of the players, coaches, fans and Boston?


Are the sick, selfish, greedy, corrupt, racist NFL owners in the 60's, or for that matter those today, better than Sullivan?
 
Color me amazed that a perfectly good adjunct to this golden anniversary of JETE irrelevance has once again been turned into an "I hate our logo thread"

Eh well, to each his own.

The quaint cartoon character logo might not be unrelated to any excessive ridicule the Pats endured. During the Grogan years, a time or two we were pre-season favorites to win the SB... still seemed it would never happen.

The real way to analyze this is that you cant believe what hasn't happened before... the stupid way is to say "figures they never won, their logo wasn't cool."

ENOUGH ALREADY with the logo.

(Just my opinion. I know that your opinion is that the logo is behind all the trouble the Pats have ever endured. How you got to that conclusion, despite the comparative records of the Pat Patriot and Flying Elvis logos, is so far beyond my powers of comprehension that no further exegesis will enlighten me.

To coin a phrase, I guarantee it.)
The United States is the dominant nation in the world today.

So, American Indian genocide and continuing domestic terrorism against African Americans are the right decisions after all!

Thanks for straightening it out.
 
It was 50 years ago today
Weeb Eubank taught the boys to play
But they’ve been falling further out of style
And will be for quite a while
So may I introduce to you
A team that’s sucked for 50 years?
Woody Johnson’s Empty Trophy Case Band!
 
Any ridicule directed toward the Patriots during the Sullivan era was richly-deserved. The Sullivans were, indeed, cheap. And on a list of 100 reasons why they were responsible for the ineptitude of most of those teams, being cheap was about #92. I'll leave it at that.
You're right.

But, nobody looks and says, "Yeah, Billy Sullivan sucked."

The entire planet does say, "The Patriots suck."

After Walter Brown died, the Celtics went through a string of terrible, miserable ownerships.

Did that invalidate their wins, or necessitate an ugly, insulting makeover?

Why didn't the Celtics ruin their uniforms when attendance plummeted from 1977-79?
 
It was 50 years ago today
Weeb Eubank taught the boys to play
But they’ve been falling further out of style
And will be for quite a while
So may I introduce to you
A team that’s sucked for 50 years?
Woody Johnson’s Empty Trophy Case Band!
It says something when a team's nickname is a tissue death leading to fatal, miserable amputation and/or diseases.
 
Any ridicule directed toward the Patriots during the Sullivan era was richly-deserved. The Sullivans were, indeed, cheap. And on a list of 100 reasons why they were responsible for the ineptitude of most of those teams, being cheap was about #92. I'll leave it at that.

Close but the Sullivans weren't cheap so much as broke. In fact their willingness to inadvisably spend money they didn't have in all the wrong ways was both the calling card and the tip of the iceberg for their ineptitude. Only the Sullivans could invest $8300 of their own money, see it increase in value more than 11,000 percent but end up not just bankrupt and forced to sell but barely stay out of jail in the process. The true story of the Sullivans and their ownership almost defies belief.
 
They knocked us out in the last regular season game in '66.
No, they didn't. Even if the Patriots won that game they still would have lost the playoff spot to the Bills.
 
Close but the Sullivans weren't cheap so much as broke. In fact their willingness to inadvisably spend money they didn't have in all the wrong ways was both the calling card and the tip of the iceberg for their ineptitude. Only the Sullivans could invest $8300 of their own money, see it increase in value more than 11,000 percent but end up not just bankrupt and forced to sell but barely stay out of jail in the process. The true story of the Sullivans and their ownership almost defies belief.
Thank you.
 
The Jets suck. Over and Out.
 
The United States is the dominant nation in the world today.

So, American Indian genocide and continuing domestic terrorism against African Americans are the right decisions after all!

Thanks for straightening it out.

Whisky Tango Foxtrot, over.
 
Eff the jete
 
Congrats to JETEs on their big anniversary

today marks the anniversary of the biggest triumph in JETEs history, their only championship, when Broadway Joe Namath beat Baltimore in Super Bowl III.

Let us all give them the respect they are due for that.

50 years ago they won a winnable game when the public didn’t realize the talent level was similar between the leagues. The Chiefs won the next year, and they would have won anyway. The Jets did not “trailblaze” anything. The Jets and Namath are publicly fellated every day for something that happened 50 years ago. I’ll pass on giving them more “respect,” as I think they’ve had more than enough.
 
No, they didn't. Even if the Patriots won that game they still would have lost the playoff spot to the Bills.
New England Patriots (1960-Present)

1966: After a slow 1-2-1 start the Patriots found their footing as Running Back Jim Nance established an AFL record with 1,458 yards rushing. Sitting at 8-3-2 the Patriots only needed to beat the Jets at New York to earn their second trip to the AFL Championship Game. However, the Pats would fall 38-28, and lost a chance to host a game for the right to play in Super Bowl I.

The Bills finished 9-4-1. The Patriots also swept the season series in 1966, going 2-0 against Buffalo.
 
Close but the Sullivans weren't cheap so much as broke. In fact their willingness to inadvisably spend money they didn't have in all the wrong ways was both the calling card and the tip of the iceberg for their ineptitude. Only the Sullivans could invest $8300 of their own money, see it increase in value more than 11,000 percent but end up not just bankrupt and forced to sell but barely stay out of jail in the process. The true story of the Sullivans and their ownership almost defies belief.
It's entirely understandable for men like Orthwein and Kraft to desire to distance themselves from the sh*tshow that was the Sullivan ownership. Don't forget how they ripped off the stockholders.

The problem is their complete lack of acknowledgment or respect for the 33 years of players, coaches, fans, families etc. who supported and rooted for the team.

The media story of the Patriots is:

- they complained forever about being robbed of a title by officials

[Which they were. Meanwhile, the recipients of the gift title, the Raiders, cried exponentially more loudly and stupidly about one correctly called play in a game whose winner did not even go to the title game]

- they complained forever about having one of their most valuable players paralyzed for life by a cheap shot

[Which happened. By an unrepentant cheap shot artist, and member of the Raiders, who proceeded to insult his victim and the Patriots till the day he died.]

- their coach decided to take a lucrative offer from a university, in large part to escape the Sullivans

[Gee. Never heard of a coach doing something like that before.]

- they had the worst record in football, they were hapless and terrible

[For exactly four months in 1981. Other than that, winning records in the other 12 seasons in a 13 year span]

- they used a snowplow

[And broke no rules, and when Shula was offered the same for his kicker, he refused.]

- they lost the Super Bowl, 46-10

[When their coach, as he did till the day he was fired, pretended that Tony Eason was Dan Marino]

[Incidentally, whenever I hear the words "John Elway" I immediately think 55-10. Which is being generous, because if I gave it further thought, I'd think of his last two seasons, when his owner decided to convert to ugly blue uniforms and a dreary new logo, and his team was given two titles when they, unlike the Patriots, did in fact break rules to gain an unfair competitive advantage (right they cheated).]

- their players were on drugs

[Five players. Or was it six? And the rest of the NFL wasn't?]

- they were bad for three seasons

[Three (3). After Doug Flutie was benched, and then cut, and then proceeded to make history in the CFL where they actually allowed him to play. Not ten, or twenty, or twenty-five, like with all the other NFL dynasties at times in their history.]


League and media propaganda do not mention that the Patriots won the ninth most games in a ten year span, out of 28 NFL teams, or that they regularly filled the old stadium with over 60,000 fans in the 70's and 80's.
 
It's entirely understandable for men like Orthwein and Kraft to desire to distance themselves from the sh*tshow that was the Sullivan ownership. Don't forget how they ripped off the stockholders.

What part of 'barely stay out of jail' sounds like I forgot that?
 


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