Who Will We Add?

[Snooky97]

Anyone know if anything happened with Kendall Wright?

 

[RobertWeathers]

It’s not the risk tolerance as much as the risk level. I see zero chance he will play the season out.
Hell he just didn’t show up for camp because he was sad that he had to deal with a child custody case.
This guy could check himself in or spark up because his cornflakes were soggy.
You just don’t stake your chances on a guy like that.

Who says they should stake their chances on Josh Gordon? I sure as hell wouldn't. I'm adding him to the roster because of what he has the ability to offer. In no way am I giving up the farm or running my offense through him.

His ability to catch and make plays at all levels and beat man to man coverage is a difference maker. The Browns knows this which is why they are keeping his addict ass around.

If it doesn't work out, they waive him and they still have the same players playing that they do now.

 

[Ring 6]

The problem is that MB is not dead weight. Who would play his position?

Exactly but the poster doesn’t know football. He didn’t know who Malcom brown was when we drafted him in the first round so he holds a grudge.

Who says they should stake their chances on Josh Gordon? I sure as hell wouldn't. I'm adding him to the roster because of what he has the ability to offer. In no way am I giving up the farm or running my offense through him.

His ability to catch and make plays at all levels and beat man to man coverage is a difference maker. The Browns knows this which is why they are keeping his addict ass around.

If it doesn't work out, they waive him and they still have the same players playing that they do now.

so you want to trade for him, but not use him?

 

[maineman209]

Well Zolak
What do you have to say for yourself?

Zolak is probably in a dive bar somewhere, mumbling into his 7th beer.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Exactly but the poster doesn’t know football. He didn’t know who Malcom brown was when we drafted him in the first round so he holds a grudge.

so you want to trade for him, but not use him?

Of course I'll play him but I'm not force feeding him the ball 10 times a game like they do Jules and Gronk. If he stays on the straight and narrow, contributes some plays here and there and helps free up coverage for Gonk, the other receivers and the running game hes earned his paycheck. We don't need him to be Randy Moss. We need him to be a productive component of the offense.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Chad Hansen and darboh? Members of the PS?

 

[Tony2046]

Exactly but the poster doesn’t know football. He didn’t know who Malcom brown was when we drafted him in the first round so he holds a grudge.

so you want to trade for him, but not use him?

I entertained the "trade MB" thought a while ago but that was when I thought VV was a replacement option which it turns out he's not ready for that yet. Maybe I was too high on VV.

But as of now there isn't anyone you could replace MB with that wouldn't make the defense worse which offsets any gains you would get adding Tate. imo.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I entertained the "trade MB" thought a while ago but that was when I thought VV was a replacement option which it turns out he's not ready for that yet. Maybe I was too high on VV.

But as of now there isn't anyone you could replace MB with that wouldn't make the defense worse which offsets any gains you would get adding Tate. imo.

I threw out the MB trade idea because of his contract status only. It was also contingent on VV improving on his 2016 rookie season. He was a dud. Need Brown

 

[Ring 6]

Of course I'll play him but I'm not force feeding him the ball 10 times a game like they do Jules and Gronk. If he stays on the straight and narrow, contributes some plays here and there and helps free up coverage for Gonk, the other receivers and the running game hes earned his paycheck. We don't need him to be Randy Moss. We need him to be a productive component of the offense.

So you want to give up picks to use him as a decoy for a few weeks until he walks away or is taken away? Why bother?

 

[RobertWeathers]

So you want to give up picks to use him as a decoy for a few weeks until he walks away or is taken away? Why bother?

Did I say use him as a decoy?

Of course he needs to catch balls and make plays.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

So you want to give up picks to use him as a decoy for a few weeks until he walks away or is taken away? Why bother?

Are you talking about Josh Gordon? You really think he would be a decoy here? Really? The guy might be a weed head but he’s a smart player and one of the best route runners in football. He would make an impact like randy moss did.

 

[maineman209]

A dream reborn ... @ChrisR2223

 

[Love The Drake]

A dream reborn ... @ChrisR2223

We shall see
Transfer Hoyers brain to Lynchs body
Succession plan achieved.

 

[Ring 6]

Did I say use him as a decoy?

Of course he needs to catch balls and make plays.

So you are making him part of the offense we are building to make a playoff run or you aren’t?
Can’t gave it both ways.

Also how do you feel he is more valuable to us than Cleveland?
He helps them win week 1 then gets suspended for life it was worth it to them to get a win.
What are you expecting to offer?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Are you talking about Josh Gordon? You really think he would be a decoy here? Really? The guy might be a weed head but he’s a smart player and one of the best route runners in football. He would make an impact like randy moss did.

I'm not sure hed be a 80/1400/20td guy here as they don't need him to be but 40/700/5 is what I would envision as a very good ROI for a conditional pick.

 

[RobertWeathers]

So you are making him part of the offense we are building to make a playoff run or you aren’t?
Can’t gave it both ways.

I am making him part of the offense so I have a better chance of winning games as soon as possible. If he blows up, hes off the team and i'm no worse with Jules, Gronk, Hogs, White who have been in the system for years.

Also how do you feel he is more valuable to us than Cleveland?
He helps them win week 1 then gets suspended for life it was worth it to them to get a win.
What are you expecting to offer?

I don't understand your question? I assume he is valuable to CLE which is why they are putting up with his crap. They have nothing to lose and nowhere to go but up. For NE I give up a conditional pick. If he has 80/1000/10 and the NEP win the SB give up a 2nd. If he flames out, a 5th? 6th? Don't know.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

I'm not sure hed be a 80/1400/20td guy here as they don't need him to be but 40/700/5 is what I would envision as a very good ROI for a conditional pick.

He could get 1000 yards in his sleep but you’re right the ball would be shared around but the guy’s a good wr. If you’re a good wr you won’t struggle no matter the offensive system other teams run. You adapt easily because you have that talent. Gordon has that talent. We picked up josh Hansen and Darboh. I am not a fan of darboh but Hansen i liked coming out of college.

 

[Ring 6]

I am making him part of the offense so I have a better chance of winning games as soon as possible. If he blows up, hes off the team and i'm no worse with Jules, Gronk, Hogs, White who have been in the system for years.

But that’s the point. You are building an offense. If you make a guy part of it who gots away in November you are in worse shape than if you never used him.
He takes someone’s playing time, he changes play calling, usage if other weapons, many things.
Do you think Brady could have done what he did in the Sb without Edelman if Edelman has been there all year then removed?

I don't understand your question? I assume he is valuable to CLE which is why they are putting up with his crap. They have nothing to lose and nowhere to go but up. For NE I give up a conditional pick. If he has 80/1000/10 and the NEP win the SB give up a 2nd. If he flames out, a 5th? 6th? Don't know.

To trade a player he had to be more valuable to the other team.
Why in the world would Cleveland trade him for a 5th or 6th?

 

[Tony2046]

He could get 1000 yards in his sleep but you’re right the ball would be shared around but the guy’s a good wr. If you’re a good wr you won’t struggle no matter the offensive system other teams run. You adapt easily because you have that talent. Gordon has that talent. We picked up josh Hansen and Darboh. I am not a fan of darboh but Hansen i liked coming out of college.

Has or had? Who knows what he is right now??

We need reliable injury depth. Right now Patterson is that wild card weapon which is what Gordon would be if he came here. I'll stick with Patterson.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

So you are making him part of the offense we are building to make a playoff run or you aren’t?
Can’t gave it both ways.

Also how do you feel he is more valuable to us than Cleveland?
He helps them win week 1 then gets suspended for life it was worth it to them to get a win.
What are you expecting to offer?

Andy, I'm not saying we should trade for Gordon but I don't agree with your thought that we shouldn't bother wasting the time simply because he might not be around for the playoffs.

Well, going by the last 5 seasons, Gronk has only a 60% chance of being healthy for the playoffs. Should we not feed the ball to our best skill player and have him help us win games?