JOSH IS STAYING!!

[Froob]

Hahahah good. **** those fat peckerheads and their pill-popping owner. Who does Indy get on the phone now? Frank Reich?

 

[dannydyn]

I’m not meaning to suggest that my opinion is correct and that yours is wrong, but I do think that it’s a pretty telling sign when upper management gives one coach a significant raise to stay, while letting another go.

For me, that suggests that they see McD as the heir apparent HC in waiting, and that they did not want to lose him—at least compared to Patricia, anyway. If they had wanted him to stay so badly, they could’ve offered him more money, made him an assistant HC, or both. Again, just my opinion.

Or maybe Patricia decided he doesn't want to wait to be a HC and went on to be one elsewhere (regardless of money that may or may not have been offered to stay).

 

[maineman209]

So the first argument for this point of view is to try to negate its opposite (the idea that Josh doesn't want to be a HC soon.) Then after telling me your opinion of somebody else's interior state, you posit a world of 30 other NFL owners, who immediately come to the same ironclad conclusion (Josh is now radioactive.) None of them is aware that Irsay might be problematic to work with.

I mean, sure, if Josh is an interchangeable part, like a burger flipper. If they're even thinking about what he brings, he's not. They're in the position of hiring from among a handful of people who show the requisite promise. This isn't replaceable workerbees, it's elite recruiting.

I can make up characterizations too.

This could be as simple as "do you really want to stop working with TFB on a loss year to go work for an old psycho drunk?"

Despite what we say on here, BB gives you a chance to win every year (even if OMFG he benched M.B.!!!!) Luck might not be all that well. Colts ownership might not be what he wants to surround himself with.

And, it's a descent into the mortal world from the Olympian heights of New England. You remember before 2001, how you didn't have any idea whether and when we'd ever be relevant again? Going to the Colts now is walking out of a NE machine that works, to basically risk being the next post-patriots disappointment (and walking into the disarray of Irsayland in the process.)

Maybe this reeks of deja vu after leaving after a SB loss last time (a year removed, if I remember correctly.)

And so on, and so on, and so on.

All I asked is whether there's evidence of any of some heir-apparent status. By setting up the cascading if-thens above, you told me there isn't. No knock on you, if we could only talk about things we know to be the case, it would kill the board.

I just don't know how anybody can be so sure of this world... there seem to be so many ways it could be off. We're starting with others' internal states, which is tough enough in the normal world where people can lie. In the NFL world every statement is made with knowledge that fans and media must be managed.

Just like the endless benching argument, we just don't have reliable intel.

I think you just won "teh Interwebz" for the day, at least.

 

[convertedpatsfan]

Tough division to start ones hc carer on, with Rodgers in green bay and a seemingly resurgent Minnesota team.

Rodgers is a great player, but he's coming back from injury, he's in his mid-30s, he didn't embrace a diet and exercise like Brady until last year, he's only got 2 years left on his contract, he's publicly grumbling about losing his QB coach, and also said how he wants to play into his 40s, but he might have to leave Green Bay to do so.

And the Lions have talent. They went to the playoffs a few seasons ago, and have been floating around .500 despite not having a real HC. It's not like Patricia is taking over the 0-16 version.

Minnesota is a good team, but they also don't have a QB for 2018 so this team could look quite different in a year.

 

[Nunchucks]

Josh finally realized that Indiana is a terrible place to live.the place is a cesspoll

 

[DarrylS]

Good move for the Pats to be able to retain him, not sure how it will work out for Josh in the long run.. but from my reading is he and his family like the area, and he does not want to uproot them to work for a drug addict..

In many ways whatever happens in NE, may be his last stop in the NFL.. unless he becomes a perennial position coach or coordinator. Suspect he got a bump in salary..

Never understood why men in particular, will sacrifice their family and family contentment to move on to something that spells "slippery slope" all over it for the sake of money or "power", particularly as he is paid well right now.

Not sure if he is heir apparent to BB, but being here provides stability for him and his family, something that he seems to value...

 

[stcjones]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

This definitely means Belichick will be retiring soon....or after next year. No other reason he would turn that down

WOAH

 

[Mike the Brit]

Josh McDaniels backs out of a job after having committed himself and Peter King writes a first-rate article. Two unlikely events together ...

Peter King: Inside why Josh McDaniels jilted Colts
​

 

[Froob]

Lmao

 

[PatsFanSince74]

No way to know whether this is an insurance policy or whether Kraft has a plan in place already; the details of Belichick's contract are more closely guarded than the reports on Brady's hand before the JAX game.
Only thing I'm pretty sure about? Josh got a big old bunch of cash from Bob Kraft in the last day or so.

There are no guarantees in the NFL, so whatever Kraft put in his bank account compensated Josh for the reality that he is not yet and has no guarantee that he will be "HC of the NEP" but is certainly no longer marketable for another Head Coaching job; that could be a whole ****load of money...I doubt the Colts are happy about his reneging on a verbal commitment, if indeed he ever made such a commitment, since they passed on Mike Vrabel.

 

[Big Bucks]

Now need to see BB sign a new three or four year deal to stick it to the media.

The reasoning.. when the media knows your going the narrative never ever changes, we have seen it the last 24hrs. What needs to happen to change that narrative is for BB to sign a three or four year deal, to shut the fcuk up the media stories, the narrative to how they want it. But then still go in a year or two. You see the stories will always be, player x knows BB is done, who gives a bleep about what he says, or BB don't care about the cap, he isn't here next year, you see the narrative could destroy BB's final year if that is even a go and there is evidence it happens.

This happened previously here in England to a and it pains me to say it a great coach who is a bit like BB in Sir Alex Ferguson. He actually came out and said it was his last season and was to retire, what happened was it destroyed the season, players gave up, everyone questioned whether he still had the heart, it meant he didn't leave in a blaze of glory and in the end he changed his mind. Signed a new deal, he didn't want to go out that way. Then whilst in that deal he woke up one morning and announced his retirement without anyone knowing or expecting it. This is how you have to do it, or next season is going to be a car crash for BB.

Control the narrative.

 

[IcyPatriot]

The man put the needs of his family over the needs of his own legacy ... regardless of his talent the man gets my total respect and admiration. If he never gets another shot at head coach so what ... he has already proved himself a winner for following his convictions.

 

[Kontradiction]

Lmao

Those guys badly need to get laid. Their cousins must be out of town.

 

[Kontradiction]

The man put the needs of his family over the needs of his own legacy ... regardless of his talent the man gets my total respect and admiration. If he never gets another shot at head coach so what ... he has already proved himself a winner for following his convictions.

He’s not going to get another head coaching shot anytime soon.

 

[IcyPatriot]

He’s not going to get another head coaching shot anytime soon.

He will maybe in 5+ years when it works with the needs of his family...in the meantime he has the best head coaching gig there is ... father of a well cared for family.

 

[sambam94]

Josh finally realized that Indiana is a terrible place to live.the place is a cesspoll

not if you like corn fields and hicks

 

[Kontradiction]

not if you like corn fields and hicks

And raging incest and meth. How many fat slobs do you think are on their taxpayer-funded Rascal scooters on the way to the gas station to pick up gas station bacon and a 6-pack of Bush Light in Indiana as we speak?

 

[LivinLovin&Breathin_Brady]

How unfortunate.

 

[Soliel]

And raging incest and meth. How many fat slobs do you think are on their taxpayer-funded Rascal scooters on the way to the gas station to pick up gas station bacon and a 6-pack of Bush Light in Indiana as we speak?

All of them

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

And raging incest and meth. How many fat slobs do you think are on their taxpayer-funded Rascal scooters on the way to the gas station to pick up gas station bacon and a 6-pack of Bush Light in Indiana as we speak?

If Busch light were an NFL player it would be that guy that gives you a solid days work (does his job) at a discounted price.