Dear Bill - Thanks for Giving Away the Super Bowl.

[VectorPrime]

It’s now fully confirmed that Belichick can do literally anything and still have a loyal legion of devoted fans ready to defend him.

 

[chasa]

No misquote at all, Butler said “ they lost faith in me” on Sunday night, and “ they gave up on
Me” on Monday.

Incorrect:


check the time stamp fella, Feb 4th at 11pm, thats right after the superbowl ended, Not monday.


Still feb 4th.

Not once in those two quotes does he say they lost "faith in me" he says they gave up on him.

If i give up on something that's on me, not the thing I gave up on.

please stop misquoting him.

 

[lancerman]

Man we are gonna be talking about this for years, aren't we?

Yeah. Pete Carroll will never live down the pass at the goal line. Dan Quin will never live down passing in field goal range. Bill Belichick will never live down benching his starting corner.

It's the nature of sports. You are only right if you win. If Wilson throws a TD pass, they are geniuses and they called the right play against the right coverage. If the Patriots drive for a game winning TD, then Belichick had the courage to hold onto his rules even in a Super Bowl.

When you lose, you're a loser and your decision is responsible for hurting your team.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Man we are gonna be talking about this for years, aren't we?

Well we haven't gotten a good explanation from bill as to why he sat his number 2 corner. The media will keep bringing it up. I am just glad it's over and both sides will depart. I wish butler all the best! He won us a super bowl!

 

[RobertWeathers]

Agholor killed this team. He had a big game.

There is no debate over that.

I like our chances with butler and Gilmore as our corners.

If Malcolm played like Malcolm in the AFCCG I agree 100%

I would take a 60 to 70 percent butler over any of these scrubs that we played.

An injured 70% Butler? Depends on the matchup but I think I agree.

 

[VectorPrime]

Man we are gonna be talking about this for years, aren't we?

This was Bill’s Grady Little moment, so yea.

 

[IllegalContact]

And if he didn't try that, in full knowledge of the potential consequences of not doing so, then it must have been a pretty serious reason. Bill would never sit a guy like Butler unless he had what seemed to him like a really good reason to sit him, especially not in a game like the Superbowl.

the only bottom line is that he could have used him and didn't

the reason doesn't really matter since none of them will make 'put the team in the best position to win' true.......suiting him and not using him when it appeared they needed him proves that.....not even trying proves that

you can try to skew, bend, twist, all you like.....there's no form of verbal masturbation on your part that will change that

 

[chasa]

No misquote at all, Butler said “ they lost faith in me” on Sunday night, and “ they gave up on
Me” on Monday.

If you don't like sports where fanbases question silly choices made by coaches, maybe go find a different sport where coaches can't sit players who played 98% of their teams snaps leading up to the championship game, and then provide no insight as to why.

My i suggest golf, or possibly tennis?

 

[neuronet]

People are a bit too focused on Butler: special teams was abysmal too. Only the offense played up to their level.

This narrative that the Butler decision was arrogance is just strange to me, frankly. That's the national media talking, not reason. Every time Belichick makes an apparent mistake, people always go directly to "arrogance" as if that is an explanation. It rarely is a useful or accurate explanation of anything.

 

[IllegalContact]

It’s not conjecture at all, it’s Butler’s own words on the situation. “ They lost faith in me.” “ They gave up on me.”

His words, not mine.

which don't mean ****

 

[VectorPrime]

People are a bit too focused on Butler: special teams was abysmal too. Only the offense played up to their level.

This narrative that the Butler decision was arrogance is just strange to me, frankly. That's the national media talking, not reason. Every time Belichick makes an apparent mistake, people always go directly to "arrogance" as if that is an explanation. It rarely is a useful or accurate explanation of anything.

He’s either arrogant or ******ed. Take your pick.

 

[RobertWeathers]

How could literally anything else have been worse than what actually happened? The defense could not get ONE STOP. Butler could ONLY have helped.

Bill felt Malcolm was in no position to help the defense on any level.

 

[IllegalContact]

BB doesnt give a **** what people think but gives a **** what can effect the outcome of the game I think. And seeing what was happening for 3+ hrs on the field and not doing anything about is against BB's policy over the yrs - doing whatever it takes to win on the game.

true.....he proved that in every one of the SB losses

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

People are a bit too focused on Butler: special teams was abysmal too. Only the offense played up to their level.

This narrative that the Butler decision was arrogance is just strange to me, frankly. That's the national media talking, not reason. Every time Belichick makes an apparent mistake, people always go directly to "arrogance" as if that is an explanation. It rarely is a useful or accurate explanation of anything.

Well you do have to admit that the great ones do have some arrogance. I don't know if it was arrogance but it proved to be costly.

 

[chasa]

People are a bit too focused on Butler: special teams was abysmal too. Only the offense played up to their level.

the punt unit sucked, the punt return unit sucked, ryan allens hands were cold because of #1 which resulted in a missed fg.

 

[VectorPrime]

Bill felt Malcolm was in no position to help the defense on any level.

And Bill has never once been wrong before. Or lied before. Ever.

“In Bill We Trust!” You shout as he leads you off a cliff.

 

[lancerman]

It’s now fully confirmed that Belichick can do literally anything and still have a loyal legion of devoted fans ready to defend him.

It's what happens when you have a "In Bill we Trust" mantra that certain fans by into. It works, until the day it doesn't. Then you have a bunch of fans claiming moral victory like all the other fanbases.

 

[IllegalContact]

Bill felt Malcolm was in no position to help the defense on any level.

not necessarily true........but if so, then that would speak of his piss poor preparation for the game since other defenders had no clue. now you can say it's Bill's prerogative to not say anything, but that in no way puts the team in the best position to win

no matter what angle you approach this from, there's a complete disconnect in trying to rationalize it without what really happened

 

[TomPatriot]

Like Bademosi or Richards knew what the hell they were doing? It became plainfully obvious that the defense was getting destroyed, largely in part to their poor play.

It also had a lot to do with the Eagles offense, especially the big offensive line, which is pretty much the best in football. It also had a lot to do with the lack of a pass rush, conservative (and sometimes strange) schemes and the RPO, which the Pats have never really handle well. In fact, if you're going to blame BB for anything blame him for that.

 

[RobertWeathers]

That's his opinion

Yes and hes the coach. His opinion is based on facts

but i am sure butler would have done very well.

I'm sure you are.

Again this was a riff and not about him doing the job.

So lets say on Friday Stephen Belichick, secondary coach quizzes Malcolm on the defensive game plan and he flunks it. Stephen tells Malcolm he is not ready to play and he freaks out on him and tells him to go f himself. He says he'll just play man and free lance.

Now what do you do?

I think he's saying that to cover what was going underneath all the stuff.

BB very well might be doing the noble think and sparing Malcolm and his son from a very explosive situation.