Brandin Cooks

[Kontradiction]

Sorry I think I may have gotten the order wrong. I'm claiming that the one where Cooks was out of bounds and the ball was a bit farther off wasn't a good call.

In this case, all I really see is that Bouye slightly pushes Cooks and has two hands on Cooks for less than half a second but Cooks was already out of bounds and the ball was pretty uncatchable at that point. That's more of a good defensive play to get the WR on the sidelines than it is interference. The other one that fell into Cooks' lap was blatant PI.

That problem here, of course, is that Cooks would have had an EXCELLENT chance of tracking that ball down had he not been interfered with and pushed out of bounds by Bouye.

 

[Kontradiction]

Do you understand what pass interference is?

No. It's quite clear that he doesn't.

 

[MainePatsFan26]

Knowing how Pitt burned them deep last week and having Brady take shots deep, the Jax secondary played soft on Cooks and NE took advantage.
Great job.
I'm still puzzled why NE rarely has Cooks running crossing patterns. Is NE trying to keep the center of the field as open as possible for the Gronk?

Maybe he is made of glass?

 

[maineman209]

It was a textbook pass interference that they missed. Otherwise they called a good game though.

So, just when is Cooks going to learn how to catch the ball in his teeth, Like Aaron Rodgers' dog??!!

Yep! Another reason why Cooks is obviously not a #1 WR!!!

[/sarcasm]

 

[maineman209]

Sorry I think I may have gotten the order wrong. I'm claiming that the one where Cooks was out of bounds and the ball was a bit farther off wasn't a good call.

In this case, all I really see is that Bouye slightly pushes Cooks and has two hands on Cooks for less than half a second but Cooks was already out of bounds and the ball was pretty uncatchable at that point. That's more of a good defensive play to get the WR on the sidelines than it is interference. The other one that fell into Cooks' lap was blatant PI.

Pushing and shoving a receiver toward and over the OB line, and otherwise physically impeding the progress of the receiver toward the thrown ball, while the pass is in the air, without ever turning around to make a play on the ball - yeah, there's no question that's DPI.

 

[maineman209]

That will get called all 100 times out of 100

Unless Gronk is the intended receiver.

 

[Soliel]

Unless Gronk is the intended receiver.

This is true lol

The treatment gronk gets with calls is an anomaly I can’t get. Any other player gets mauled half that much and flags fly, gronk never gets calls

 

[maineman209]

Then Bouye has the favorable angle since Cooks has to get completely around the CB in order to make a play on the ball. Cooks had essentially gotten squeezed between Bouye and the sideline after that and he ended up going out of bounds.

Bouye is physically preventing the receiver from getting to the ball.

Textbook.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

That problem here, of course, is that Cooks would have had an EXCELLENT chance of tracking that ball down had he not been interfered with and pushed out of bounds by Bouye.

is “bouye” his real name? it sounds like “boy, yeah!” or “yeah bbboyyy!!”

 

[maineman209]

Maybe he is made of glass?

Cooks?

He hasn't missed a game in three seasons.

Didn't miss even a snap at practice this season, according to BB. Has made his share of contested catches.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

I thought aside from that one drop, and it was a BIG drop as it would’ve led to at least 3 points when we were down at the time, that cooks had a really good game last Sunday. We needed players to step up minus Gronk and both Danny and him were up to the challenge.

 

[GoBlue]

If anything the league needs to clean up the rule on DB/Receiver contact and call it correctly..Rules shouldn't be applied just to keep the games interesting..

 

[Kontradiction]

is “bouye” his real name? it sounds like “boy, yeah!” or “yeah bbboyyy!!”

I pronounce it “boo-yay”.

 

[Kontradiction]

Bouye is physically preventing the receiver from getting to the ball.

Textbook.

 

[MainePatsFan26]

Cooks?

He hasn't missed a game in three seasons.

Didn't miss even a snap at practice this season, according to BB. Has made his share of contested catches.

Oh Cooks has been in there and been tough. I'm just speculating why we aren't having him run the slot routes as a replacement for Edelman. Heck... Cooks could easily beat anyone playing man on those routes with his quickness.

 

[Soliel]

Oh Cooks has been in there and been tough. I'm just speculating why we aren't having him run the slot routes as a replacement for Edelman. Heck... Cooks could easily beat anyone playing man on those routes with his quickness.

That’s a great idea. They’ve been using him to stretch the field out but if he did do Edelman’s type of thing it would be cool

 

[JayNM]

Oh Cooks has been in there and been tough. I'm just speculating why we aren't having him run the slot routes as a replacement for Edelman. Heck... Cooks could easily beat anyone playing man on those routes with his quickness.

When i see cooks playing, whenever he is making a cut, he always throttles down with 2, 3 steps. That tells me that he cant make cuts at his full speed, which is big no-no for slots

Plus he doesnt really have the best hands and while playing inside, you need to be able catch fast balls consistently, which i feel that he cant.

My last point is that, if he was able to play in the slot, he would have done so already, even if in limited packages

 

[maineman209]

Oh Cooks has been in there and been tough. I'm just speculating why we aren't having him run the slot routes as a replacement for Edelman. Heck... Cooks could easily beat anyone playing man on those routes with his quickness.

@JayNM

Well, all through the summer and Camp, the Pats thought they'd have Edelman and Mitchell, in addition to Amendola. So, Cooks' first-year training probably focused almost exclusively on the Patriots versions of the routes he'd run most frequently and successfully in NOLA. By the time the Pats knew that they'd lost both Edelman and Mitchell for the season (effectively, just before cutdowns), they were already in regular-season game-planning mode and there simply wasn't time to go back to basics with Cook on the slot game.

I'd guess that they'll focus on diversifying Cooks route portfolio this off-season, which was probably their original plan anyway.

Based on Cooks' Combine testing numbers (3.81 ss/6.76 3-cone), I'd say, yes, he does appear to have the CoD athleticism to handle the slot game. But he may not have the experience or the training in technique to fully exploit that athleticism. Yet.

Given his 4.33/40, I'd guess that every coach he's had, from middle school through college, focused mostly (if not exclusively) on exploiting Cooks' long speed as a deep threat and didn't spend a lot of time educating him on the techniques and timing required to successfully run shorter routes in traffic and get significant YAC. BTW - all of this probably applies equally to Dorsett.

Edelman's other-worldly jump cuts (and his timing) aren't a product of his athleticism alone (3.92 ss/6.62 3-cone); they're the result of years of focused practice. But then, Edelman's long speed (4.52/40) isn't exceptional.

That said, Cooks (or Dorsett) doesn't need to get up to Edelman's level over the course of just this coming summer and Camp to become decent or better at running routes out of the slot.

 

[Kontradiction]

@JayNM

Well, all through the summer and Camp, the Pats thought they'd have Edelman and Mitchell, in addition to Amendola. So, Cooks' first-year training probably focused almost exclusively on the Patriots versions of the routes he'd run most frequently and successfully in NOLA. By the time the Pats knew that they'd lost both Edelman and Mitchell for the season (effectively, just before cutdowns), they were already in regular-season game-planning mode and there simply wasn't time to go back to basics with Cook on the slot game.

I'd guess that they'll focus on diversifying Cooks route portfolio this off-season, which was probably their original plan anyway.

Based on Cooks' Combine testing numbers (3.81 ss/6.76 3-cone), I'd say, yes, he does appear to have the CoD athleticism to handle the slot game. But he may not have the experience or the training in technique to fully exploit that athleticism. Yet.

Given his 4.33/40, I'd guess that every coach he's had, from middle school through college, focused mostly (if not exclusively) on exploiting Cooks' long speed as a deep threat and didn't spend a lot of time educating him on the techniques and timing required to successfully run shorter routes in traffic and get significant YAC. BTW - all of this probably applies equally to Dorsett.

Edelman's other-worldly jump cuts (and his timing) aren't a product of his athleticism alone (3.92 ss/6.62 3-cone); they're the result of years of focused practice. But then, Edelman's long speed (4.52/40) isn't exceptional.

That said, Cooks (or Dorsett) doesn't need to get up to Edelman's level over the course of just this coming summer and Camp to become decent or better at running routes out of the slot.

I think you might be selling the Patriots' coaching staff a little short in the first paragraph. They had the last week of the preseason and the entire regular season to expand Cooks' route tree and, for whatever reason, apparently decided not to. I think it's for good reason. Those routes don't seem to be Cooks' specialty and the Pats have Amendola, Gronk, Hogan, White, Lewis, and Burkhead available to run those routes.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I thought aside from that one drop, and it was a BIG drop as it would’ve led to at least 3 points when we were down at the time, that cooks had a really good game last Sunday. We needed players to step up minus Gronk and both Danny and him were up to the challenge.

Agree. He needs to make that catch but overall he had an outstanding game