Brandin Cooks

[Kdo5]

that one where he was samwhiched between two guys each guy holding one of his arms, that wasn't called made me really upset.

It was a textbook pass interference that they missed. Otherwise they called a good game though.

 

[Teej]

He played very well and needed to so my hat's off to him. The Jags were clearly afraid of his speed and he might have done more damage if Gronk hadn't gotten hurt and had to be accounted for.

 

[turkeyneck]

He was valuable out there, for sure. I still wish he'd be willing to lay out for balls, though. That's two long ones in two weeks he would have had a good chance to reel in if he dove for them.

He'll be great when a little more JE and DannyA rubs off on him.

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

Someone, Maybe @captain stone (?) predicted Jax corners would have cooks crying like a little girl.
Worst prediction of the week I suppose.

I thought Lewis would have a big game, probably with screen passes. Game didn't go how I thought at all.

 

[Ring 6]

I thought Lewis would have a big game, probably with screen passes. Game didn't go how I thought at all.

There was a lot of talk that we would run a 2 TE offense but we ran 45/64 out of 3 wides.
Even before Gronk went out we almost never ran 2 TE.
I think the answer is if you look back starting in 2014 BB has made the decision that in the playoffs he will live or die with the GOAT.
In 10 playoff games 9 wins, brady has thrown more than 50 times in half the games, his fewest was 35 (in a 41-7 blowout) and his average is 46.8 attempts per game.
We aren’t leaving any bullets in the GOATs gun.

 

[Wrath Mania]

It was pretty crazy when you think about it: consensus all week was that the wideouts would be erased and this would be a RB and Gronk game. Well the screen and dumpoff game was a complete disaster and Gronk was K.O.'d after just one catch. All the attempts to get JAX to overpursue on misdirections failed. The game came down to breaking the emergency glass and letting Brady try to make plays downfield and along the sidelines. And it worked--which is also nuts when you consider on Friday we weren't even sure if he'd be able to throw a pass.

Obviously Dola was the best player on the field, but Cooks also came up huge. Yeah the one drop was bad. But JAX had no answer to all those comebacks, and even without Gronk out there they had to respect him. The fact that he and Brady were able to find success against such a good secondary is very promising going against another good defense--in fact, I hope the Patriots are willing to cut the crap and go uptempo from the start in two weeks. Not gonna be easy running against Philly, but Seattle trounced them on big plays, and even ELI was able to carve them up by going downfield. Cooks-Gronk-Dola, with some changeups to Dion and White, could keep the Eagles off balance from the start.

EDIT: Forgot about Hogan. He still doesn't seem 100% to me. But if he can get back into the swing of it by gametime that would be huge too.

 

[HailHydra]

Yup. The offense ran through Cooks and Amendola this game. No Gronk, Hogan was ineffective, RB's struggled with their speedy defense.

I wasn't anticipating this to be a Cooks game, given their two all-Pro corners. But Cooks had his way with Bouye. He made some great catches, particularly on the comeback route where he leaped and fought for the ball. The PI's were both legit and there was another one that wasn't called. People don't typically mention that Cooks is great at drawing PI's downfield. It doesn't show up in the stat sheet but those 40-50 yard penalties make a big impact.

Anyone who thinks those PI's were unwarranted is being dishonest.

The 1s one wasn't a great call and the refs were likely given some incentive for doing it right after Gronk got taken out. The CB wasn't really doing anything crazy for that play and I agree with others that it wasn't necessarily the right call.

 

[Kdo5]

The 2nd one wasn't a great call and the refs were likely given some incentive for doing it right after Gronk got taken out. The CB wasn't really doing anything crazy for that play and I agree with others that it wasn't necessarily the right call.

The 2nd one was blatant, no question the correct call. The 1st one was pretty clear as well.

 

[HailHydra]

The 2nd one was blatant, no question the correct call. The 1st one was pretty clear as well.

Sorry I think I may have gotten the order wrong. I'm claiming that the one where Cooks was out of bounds and the ball was a bit farther off wasn't a good call.

In this case, all I really see is that Bouye slightly pushes Cooks and has two hands on Cooks for less than half a second but Cooks was already out of bounds and the ball was pretty uncatchable at that point. That's more of a good defensive play to get the WR on the sidelines than it is interference. The other one that fell into Cooks' lap was blatant PI.

 

[Soliel]

Cooks was beyond five yards, aj hit him several times and was blocking the route up. Grabbing on or hitting the receiver beyond five is pi case closed

 

[Soliel]

we have threads for Amendola/Gilmore rightly. but how about brandin cooks? he sneakily had a really good game. 6 catches on 8 targets for 100 yards. and drew two huge pass interference penalties he generated 168 yards total in offense.

and that is against two great corners. with Gronk out when teams would focus more on him. he did drop the deep pass. but other than that I thought he had a hell of a game

I was pleasantly surprised in cooks. Everyone was saying he wouldn’t be able to do much with jags all pro secondary. He carved them up like the jags they are

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

Sorry I think I may have gotten the order wrong. I'm claiming that the one where Cooks was out of bounds and the ball was a bit farther off wasn't a good call.

In this case, all I really see is that Bouye slightly pushes Cooks and has two hands on Cooks for less than half a second but Cooks was already out of bounds and the ball was pretty uncatchable at that point. That's more of a good defensive play to get the WR on the sidelines than it is interference. The other one that fell into Cooks' lap was blatant PI.

Freeze at 3 seconds. Cooks is playing the ball, Bouye is playing the man- with contact. Both inbounds. Ball in the air.

 

[HailHydra]

Freeze at 3 seconds. Cooks is playing the ball, Bouye is playing the man- with contact. Both inbounds. Ball in the air.

Then Bouye has the favorable angle since Cooks has to get completely around the CB in order to make a play on the ball. Cooks had essentially gotten squeezed between Bouye and the sideline after that and he ended up going out of bounds.

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

Then Bouye has the favorable angle since Cooks has to get completely around the CB in order to make a play on the ball. Cooks had essentially gotten squeezed between Bouye and the sideline after that and he ended up going out of bounds.

If his angle is favorable then he should turn around and intercept it. Or If he thinks it's uncatcheable then let it fall. Hitting a receiver to prevent the catch is pass interference.

From Gene Steratore:

"The easiest way to put it is, if both players are playing the ball, you have no foul because both players are entitled to the ball. That's important to remember about pass interference with the ball in the air - both players have an equal right to the air. I think there's a misconception that the offense gets more protection, but that's not the case. Defensive players have just as much right.

"If one guy is not playing the ball and one is, and you have that kind of contact, the one not playing the ball will always be called. You can have plenty of contact on a play where a defensive player tries to undercut a route, and he gets shoulder to shoulder, and it's not a foul because he's entitled to that ball."

If you're going to make contact with the ball in the air you better be playing the ball, he wasn't.

 

[Soliel]

That will get called all 100 times out of 100

 

[Pessimistic Pete]

When even Cris Carter, who isn't exactly a huge Pats fan and actually played WR, says this is clear PI, then it's clear PI.

 

[Soliel]

When even Cris Carter, who isn't exactly a huge Pats fan and actually played WR, says this is clear PI, then it's clear PI.

Hard to believe carter is making sense. Good for him. The garbage being spewed by Max Kellerman and the rest of them is an embarrassment to themselves. Makes them look like they just started watching football last week

 

[Kontradiction]

He was valuable out there, for sure. I still wish he'd be willing to lay out for balls, though. That's two long ones in two weeks he would have had a good chance to reel in if he dove for them.

Same here but I don’t know if we should hope for that. It just doesn’t seem to be his game. It wasn’t his game in college, with the Saints, and in his first season here. That’s another reason I don’t think they use him much on underneath routes as that inability or unwillingness (whatever you want to call it) could lead to turnovers. He is what he is... a finesse WR that can take the top off the defense and take a safety with him. The Pats have use for that and have other gritty wideouts on the roster willing to do the dirty work.

 

[Ring 6]

Sorry I think I may have gotten the order wrong. I'm claiming that the one where Cooks was out of bounds and the ball was a bit farther off wasn't a good call.

In this case, all I really see is that Bouye slightly pushes Cooks and has two hands on Cooks for less than half a second but Cooks was already out of bounds and the ball was pretty uncatchable at that point. That's more of a good defensive play to get the WR on the sidelines than it is interference. The other one that fell into Cooks' lap was blatant PI.

Putting 2 hands on him, restricting him from the path to the ball and shoving him out of bounds is clear dpi.

 

[Ring 6]

Then Bouye has the favorable angle since Cooks has to get completely around the CB in order to make a play on the ball. Cooks had essentially gotten squeezed between Bouye and the sideline after that and he ended up going out of bounds.

Do you understand what pass interference is?