Haley Fired, Where Was ESPN?

[Ring 6]

So it seems while ESPN was hacking at the weeds trying to create a controversy in New England there was a real story right under their noses.

After reports that the relationship between Big Ben and little Todd was so bad that they spoke to each other IN GAME through an intermediary (the QB coach) Haley is now out.

Investigative reporting might have highlighted this story while it was evolving and reported on it up to the day it potentially had some impact on a major upset.

Instead they decided to see what happened in New England that they can sensationalize and create a controversy from. Solid work

 

[FortressX]

I heard they moved Haley to the booth and brought the QB coach to the sideline.

 

[PWRxWLF]

You’re absolutely right. The media has so much material to work with too. The stories have always been there, we all know about them, but they are just blips on everyone’s radar. Ya had Porter and his drama last year, Haley and his drama this year, Big Ben and all of his emotional roller coasters, players consistently being suspended, team never playing up to its talent, and people on the inside wanting Tomlin out. The only consistent story we got outta Pitt is win it for Shazier. Think about the scandal. A HC that has created a culture of the inmates running the asylum. Rampant drug abuse and alcoholism tearing a team on the brink of a championship apart. Sooooo much juicy material there.

 

[Deus Irae]

Haley wasn't fired, and the prickly relationship between Haley and Roethlisberger has been public knowledge since day one.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I heard they moved Haley to the booth and brought the QB coach to the sideline.

He got moved to the booth last game because he suffered a bone bruise on his hip because he was so friggan trashed he fell down after he and his hammered wife were kicked out of a Pittsburgh bar.

It is true that Roeth and Haley had a very sour relationship

 

[Raymond]

Haley wasn't fired, and the prickly relationship between Haley and Roethlisberger has been public knowledge since day one.

You are correct. However, yesterday I did see the word fired, ( or thought I did)
Randy Fichtner to replace Todd Haley as Steelers OC

 

[Vatahala]

Haley wasn't fired, and the prickly relationship between Haley and Roethlisberger has been public knowledge since day one.

Yet Haley was the OC for 6 seasons which gives credence to the idea that the Steelers organization is dysfunctional.

 

[IcyPatriot]

They hate their coach

 

[Deus Irae]

Yet Haley was the OC for 6 seasons which gives credence to the idea that the Steelers organization is dysfunctional.

Why? The QB and OC had their problems, and it eventually seems to have become untenable, but the offense improved quite a bit under Haley.

We've seen blow ups between Brady and O'Brien and Brady and McDaniels, too, yet the Patriots world still spins on its axis.

 

[Dr Pain]

I felt like the ESPN story was to cover up for Haley https://nypost.com/2018/01/03/steelers-coach-injured-in-wifes-new-years-eve-bar-fight/

Gee Ben is suspended for sexual assault but to NFL fans Brady is the bad guy.

 

[SacPete1]

Haley and Ben aren't legends and the greatest of all time like Belichick and Brady.
A story on their discontent would never have gotten the national spotlight like B&B&K.

Also, negative stories on the Patriots is the ultimate fuel for the haters and lovers.

However, in line with your post, why can't a national media outlet bring this very point up that you're making to highlight the obvious bias.

 

[Vatahala]

Why? The QB and OC had their problems, and it eventually seems to have become untenable, but the offense improved quite a bit under Haley.

We've seen blow ups between Brady and O'Brien and Brady and McDaniels, too, yet the Patriots world still spins on its axis.

I don't think you can compare the 2 organizations, Brady has had heat in the moment spats but it seemed that new OC Randy Fichtner was a needed buffer anytime Haley and Ben interacted over the entire season.

 

[Ring 6]

Haley wasn't fired, and the prickly relationship between Haley and Roethlisberger has been public knowledge since day one.

Neither was degugliemo.
The fact that they needed an intermediary to communicate with each other was not public knowledge. Obviously while they were preparing for the playoffs there was clear indication and evidence of a rift in the relationship while ESPN decided to focus its efforts on stretching circumstantial unconfirmed evidence into a rift between B.B. and Brady.
If you wanted to report in a rift there was one staring at you from Pittsburgh but they aren’t a target.

 

[TommyD4207]

Haley wasn't fired, and the prickly relationship between Haley and Roethlisberger has been public knowledge since day one.

This is just a word parse. He wasn't specifically fired, but his contract wasn't renewed after a 13-3 season and having the league's #2 offense.

He was 'let go'.

The point of the OP is that while Wickersham was beating the bushes in Foxboro, looking for Nazis in woodpiles for anyone who would say anything negative about the Patriots - there was an actual rift, an actual story about a successful franchise tearing apart at the seams that has been virtually ignored.

 

[Ring 6]

Haley and Ben aren't legends and the greatest of all time like Belichick and Brady.
A story on their discontent would never have gotten the national spotlight like B&B&K.

Also, negative stories on the Patriots is the ultimate fuel for the haters and lovers.

However, in line with your post, why can't a national media outlet bring this very point up that you're making to highlight the obvious bias.

Exactly my point.

 

[Deus Irae]

I don't think you can compare the 2 organizations, Brady has had heat in the moment spats but it seemed that new OC Randy Fichtner was a needed buffer anytime Haley and Ben interacted over the entire season.

That makes no sense, because of course we can compare, so let's start from the beginning:

• Conflicts happen (See Brady and his OCs)
  
• Teams can achieve despite conflict (See Steelers offense for the better part of the last 6 years, Patriots offense for Brady's career)
  
• It's been well known, since the very beginning, that Haley and Roethlisberger had a prickly relationship, and has been reported on since that first year
• The Steelers tried putting Haley up in the booth, with Randy Fichtner on the sidelines, but that didn't work
• The Steelers then had both Haley and Fichtner on the sidelines, but that didn't work
  
• The Haley/Roethlisberger relationship got to be too toxic to continue, so Haley's not getting re-upped

All of that was covered by the media, and none of it is anything particularly extraordinary. Blow ups happen, but it got to be more than was healthy for Pittsburgh (and they needed a scapecoat/distraction).

 

[Deus Irae]

This is just a word parse. He wasn't specifically fired, but his contract wasn't renewed after a 13-3 season and having the league's #2 offense.

He was 'let go'.

The point of the OP is that while Wickersham was beating the bushes in Foxboro, looking for Nazis in woodpiles for anyone who would say anything negative about the Patriots - there was an actual rift, an actual story about a successful franchise tearing apart at the seams that has been virtually ignored.

No, it's not just a word parse. And the OP was wrong.

 

[signbabybrady]

@Deus Irae don't you think it a bad comparison to compare Brady yelling on the sideline at OCs in the heat of battle to a conflict that reportedly had Ben and Haley not speaking and the OC eventually leaving over it?

 

[Deus Irae]

@Deus Irae don't you think it a bad comparison to compare Brady yelling on the sideline at OCs in the heat of battle to a conflict that reportedly had Ben and Haley not speaking and the OC eventually leaving over it?

Depends on the intent of the comparison. In this case, it's apt. Brady has had blowups with his coordinators, yet greatness has still been there. Ben had blowups with Haley, yet greatness was there. For purposes of the comparison, the difference is one of degree, not kind, and the media's been covering the Haley/Roethlisberger relationship since day one, so there was no need for some sort of "Shocking expose!", whereas an alleged megarift beftween Brady and BB would be new and newsworthy.

In short, we really need the game to start, because a whole lot of posters here have been clowning themselves this week, and the people who are trying to make this non-issue an issue are just some of them.

 

[jack keenan]

ESPN biased against the Pats? That's certainly deflating to hear.