Kraft admits he sold the team out

[Ring 6]

At the end of the day, NE paid very little to continue its dominant position in the league for several years. Pretty shrewd play, imho, and it worked out pretty well. That’s not popular, it’s not visceral, it’s not satisfying, but it’s the truth.

The paid a 1st round pick, money and Tom Brady’s reputation and got nothing in return.
They didn’t buy their dominating position they earned it despite being screwed and would have been even better if not screwed.

 

[RayClay]

There is a gap wider than the Grand Canyon between the 2 things you offer as if they were the only alternatives.

The league is corrupt. I know Jerry Jones worked the commissioner and threw a drunken tantrum so Goodell had to rescind Elliot's suspension.

Oh wait, he didn't.

Kraft likes to have a ****tail, maybe he should have got ripped and spit in Goodell's face.

Goodell even influenced [bought] a judge when he lost his case against Brady in court. Meanwhile Brady rubbed his chestnuts in the Fuehrers face to the tune of 2 Super Bowls.

 

[Ring 6]

LOL, what a coincidence! Obviously, your ego is bigger then Robert Krafts. Again, in twenty years, people will still be pissed but will not trade Kraft for another owner due to making this a great franchise.

Bill Belichick made this a great franchise.

 

[borg]

Stuff a sock in it Little Bob.
There is nothing noble about abetting an injustice in order to preserve harmony among the oligarchs, especially when that injustice was against your team.

 

[Ring 6]

The league is corrupt. I know Jerry Jones worked the commissioner and threw a drunken tantrum so Goodell had to rescind Elliot's suspension.

Elliot did something, brady did not.

Oh wait, he didn't.

Goodell even influenced [bought] a judge when he lost his case in court. Meanwhile Brady rubbed his chestnuts in the Fuehrers face to the tune of 2 Super Bowls.

Winning SBs doesn’t overcome anything. He would have won them without the debacle he was framed for.
Kraft could have stepped in and tried to help, he chose the very owners who were laughing behind his back over Tom Brady.
It’s ok if he thinks keeping the people who are sabotaging him happy is more important than the man who got him the success he gots around bragging about, I just think it’s a crappy attitude to have.

 

[voluntarysaftey]

I think Kraft was wrong to sell out Brady like that instead of appealing the draft pick and aiding Brady's appeal.

However, the question now is, why does Kraft continue to support Goodell --when Goodell is clearly failing and will likely make hundreds of millions more to do a crappy job.

 

[RayClay]

Elliot did something, brady did not.


Winning SBs doesn’t overcome anything. He would have won them without the debacle he was framed for.
Kraft could have stepped in and tried to help, he chose the very owners who were laughing behind his back over Tom Brady.
It’s ok if he thinks keeping the people who are sabotaging him happy is more important than the man who got him the success he gots around bragging about, I just think it’s a crappy attitude to have.

I said, the league is corrupt. At least Brady had a legal case and he won, then the corrupt comm fixed the appeal. All the owners agreed, signed that Commissioner has absolute power. There is no "real" appeal, because the comm is also the arbitrator and the prosecutor. Whatever he says goes, period.

The only legal recourse would be an anti-trust suit, break up the league, start another. A new league would also be the only leverage.

 

[scout]

I would trade this owner for one who would hire Bill Belichick, get out of the way, and stand up when the commissioner tries to screw the franchise.

I was reading an article the other day which mentioned hiring a Jet coach who had worked one day. Kraft didn't beat the league to hiring BB. After the hire he let BB make all the decisions and dominate the league. Oh, you failed to mention who that owner would be.......I'm sure you'll entertain us with your replies.

 

[Ring 6]

I said, the league is corrupt. At least Brady had a legal case and he won, then the corrupt comm fixed the appeal.

That is delusional.

All the owners agreed, signed that Commissioner has absolute power. There is no "real" appeal, because the comm is also the arbitrator and the prosecutor. Whatever he says goes, period.

Of course there is an appeal. Kraft as an owner also had the right to request that goodell recuse himself. As one of his bosses he had a much better chance at an appeal that a member of the union it is the owner mission (as the nature of the relationship dictates) to hold down and notguve an inch.

The only legal recourse would be an anti-trust suit, break up the league, start another. A new league would also be the only leverage.

Simply not true.

The man admitted he could have fought for his team and chose not to because he wanted to support the other owners instead and you are still defending him and giving him a pass. Thank god you aren’t a Weinstein woman.

 

[Jlaff]

I think someone needs to explain to Kraft how a partnership works. It's when individual businesses come together for a purpose. There is no rule of partnership that says when one business tries to screw the other business in the partnership, the screwed-over partner just takes it. The individual partners remain self-interested.

 

[Soliel]

Bob Kraft, STFU about deflategate and what you did for the good of ____. By speaking you look good to many of your 6 comma NFL lodge and not good to most fans. Please just STFU about deflategate analogies/comparisons.

Dude, you just said everything I could say. It’s a dagger in my heart to read some stuff like this. I’m kinda speechless

 

[Ring 6]

I was reading an article the other day which mentioned hiring a Jet coach who had worked one day. Kraft didn't beat the league to hiring BB. After the hire he let BB make all the decisions and dominate the league. Oh, you failed to mention who that owner would be.......I'm sure you'll entertain us with your replies.

Any owner who would have hired Belichick and left him alone and fought for his franchise would be better.
In other words if kraft hadn’t hired BB he would be a horrible owner.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

I never gave a fuc* about Kraft anyway. I wasn't watchimg when he bought the team and I like to focus more on the team. Kraft is corrupt, but that comes naturallyfor someone so high up.

Anyway, I'm tired of this league. Not even winning 12 games a season removes the bad taste from my mouth watching it. This league will be MISERABLE post Brady. I would NEVER choose NFL over anime because at least anime doesnt give me a bad taste in my mouth.

 

[Ring 6]

I think Kraft was wrong to sell out Brady like that instead of appealing the draft pick and aiding Brady's appeal.

However, the question now is, why does Kraft continue to support Goodell --when Goodell is clearly failing and will likely make hundreds of millions more to do a crappy job.

And is on record saying he personally believes Tom Brady is a cheater and a liar.

 

[Soliel]

Wow. I’m starting to see who Tom is. He does his talking on the field I guess. Krafts garbage man, I don’t even care what he did or bought. Straight up spineless garbage

 

[RayClay]

That is delusional.

Of course there is an appeal. Kraft as an owner also had the right to request that goodell recuse himself. As one of his bosses he had a much better chance at an appeal that a member of the union it is the owner mission (as the nature of the relationship dictates) to hold down and notguve an inch.


Simply not true.

The man admitted he could have fought for his team and chose not to because he wanted to support the other owners instead and you are still defending him and giving him a pass. Thank god you aren’t a Weinstein woman.

Oh Mr. Goodell, would you please recuse yourself?

I wonder why the union and Brady didn't think of that. Hint, they demanded it to no avail.

 

[RayClay]

NFLPA asks Roger Goodell to recuse himself from Tom Brady appeal

League which had legal standing demands he recuse. Three days later he refused.

 

[Silver Blue&Red]

Kraft Tried to do the "go along, get along" route , and got screwed. He was wrong. we know it, he knows it.
Nothing will right the ship, in the fans eyes.

He F'd up.

But, at least he is coming out, and basically saying, the league is rigged and manipulated.

He invested a lot of money and work to get into the "club".

I don't like it. I'm sure, he regrets it.

It is what it is.

I doubt he would rollover again. If he does , it would be "fan suicide".
Nobody would forgive him. IMO.

The league is getting more and more corrupt and manipulated than ever.
Parity is alive and well.

We can keep watching, or as MANY have been doing, stop watching all together.

I live in Giants territory, and they are dropping like flies. 5h!tty playing, or fed up? Most, I talk to are fed up with the Anthem BS, the league BS in general.

I have a feeling, a lot of us, will stop when BB and TB are gone.
I'm in that category.

 

[Ring 6]

Oh Mr. Goodell, would you please recuse yourself?

I wonder why the union and Brady didn't think of that. Hint, they demanded it to no avail.

Brady is a member of the union that is the enemy of ownership and the commissioner.
Kraft is one of the commissioners bosses.
The idea that goodell is the power and kraft is the subordinate who should fear him is mind boggling.

 

[Joker]

At the end of the day, NE paid very little to continue its dominant position in the league for several years. Pretty shrewd play, imho, and it worked out pretty well. That’s not popular, it’s not visceral, it’s not satisfying, but it’s the truth.

what would have taken the Patriots out of their dominant position otherwise? that he stand contrary to the standard billionaire axiom of filthy lucre above all else? I think not. He'd still be fabulously wealthy but also a CHAMPION of the little guy...win/win. He phucked up. THAT is the truth.