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Let's keep it together, guys.

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I'm pissed off that injuries are robbing the offense and defense of continuity. Most posters have been clear the one thing that could derail this season was injuries. Rivers, Mitchell, Edelman, Jones, and even that JAG McClellin being out really blows.

Edit: Thankfully as I've gotten older I don't take this as seriously as I used to. I sent a few texts to my one Patriots friend in the area about the game and went to bed.
 
I'm so disgusted with the behavior of some of our fans both here and other places it makes a strange part of me look forward to the inevitable decline we're facing. Because at least the people who don't deserve this team will **** off.
 
After the last 17 years this team could never have a winning season again and I will still die a happy man.

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I was angry and shouting at my TV like any passionate fan. I'll never stop being passionate about these games.

At the same time that in-game passion pales in comparison to the overwhelming sense of gratitude I feel for my luck in being a fan of this team.
 
I'm pissed off that injuries are robbing the offense and defense of continuity. Most posters have been clear the one thing that could derail this season was injuries. Rivers, Mitchell, Edelman, Jones, and even that JAG McClellin being out really blows.

Edit: Thankfully as I've gotten older I don't take this as seriously as I used to. I sent a few texts to my one Patriots friend in the area about the game and went to bed.

Time to change your avi my friend

Kyrie Irving is our franchise player. There's a new sheriff in town
 
I think, honestly, what gets me the most is the mean-spirited comments towards our players. I'm fine with stuff like "McClellin isn't worth what they're paying him" or "Allen really has been terrible blocking" and other observations, positive or negative.

It's this sentiment that you almost think certain posters are gonna be glad if Cyrus Jones washes out. Some posters would probably key Chris Harper's car.
 
The sad observation I have on reactionary posting is part of the fun of this team is watching a coach/GM integrate new pieces into a complex team concept and seeing it all develop and come together, or not come together, week in and week out. If these disasters show up in November and December, then I am a little more concerned. Having watch Brady get decapitated at the start of season with new line play, receiver disconnects and horrible defensive play at the start of seasons over the years, this does not seem like a new thing.

It's as if after watching this team since 2000 people somehow missed the point of team building, and you don't just Madden a team together in a mixing bowl and come up with the perfect dish that wins titles with a bunch of new players in the mix. Yet somehow, magically, the Patriots seem to luck into the playoffs and titles in the end as if it is still a surprise ending, and only then do some fans seem genuinely happy. Remember Chad Henne of the 6-10 Fish throwing for 416 yards against the Pats in 2011 in the first game? That awesome Dolphins team finished 7-9 the year before, and that is one of many examples, offensive and defensive, in seasons that ended well.
 
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The team sucked in a game where it should have been nails.
People are ranting as a result.
Blind homers defend everything.
Chicken Littles take everything as a sign of the apocalypse.



Welcome to every fan base on the planet!
 
I respect your opinion Ross, but I have to disagree.

I think the issue I have is that too many people take it upon themselves to try to police how others feel by calling them "trolls" "chicken-littles" and "pink-hats" or even making subtle comments like yours, "you should consider finding another team to cheer for."

If fans are passionate, then it's to be expected that they overreact or over-scrutinize. But that's their right as fans. I don't see the big deal.

To me, censorship is a much bigger concern than "negativity" -- the tendency of mods or posters to get over-protective of their team, and not tolerate criticism or concerns others might have in the heat of the moment. I just don't see the need for a moderator to approve or disapprove of some opinions, or question peoples' loyalty or commitment to the team.

The Celtics forum doesn't get this heated about opinions. But the Patriots are a lightning rod of like no other team I follow. Fans get upset....and then more fans get upset that others are upset? WTF??


Buahahaha. Censorship??? OMG. That's what you got out of that post?

Man that game sucked as a loss but has gifted us with a lifetime's worth of some hilarious Hawt Take posts.
 
I left Patsfan several months ago when I had the gall to worry about Atlanta's Defense prior to the Super Bowl, and I was mocked several times for being a "Chicken Little"

So yes, I consider that kind of intimidation/bullying a form of a censorship.

You aren't being censored if people disagree with you on a forum, omg, ffs
 
I left Patsfan several months ago when I had the gall to worry about Atlanta's Defense prior to the Super Bowl, and I was mocked several times for being a "Chicken Little"

So yes, I consider that kind of intimidation/bullying a form of a censorship.

 
You aren't being censored if people disagree with you on a forum, omg, ffs
Dude. I had some jerk on Patsfan send me DMs with insults and reply to all my posts with derogatory remarks, all because I simply asked whether the Pats D could contain Le'veon Bell! And when I complained to the moderators, they told me to lessen my criticism and watch what I say. SMH. Whatever man....I go back and forth between this and the CelticsBlog.com forum....one of the great perks of being a fan of Boston sports!!
 
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A couple days removed from the loss to KC and I'm just really saddened by the negativity here. I don't understand it.

First of all, not every game or every season has to be perfect. We're incredibly fortunate to be fans of such an insanely good team over the last 15+ years, but they shouldn't have to be perfect to make you happy. If you're actually a FAN of the Patriots then you should be willing to stomach a bad game or even a bad season at times. They're not going to destroy every opponent and win the Super Bowl every single year. I know they've had an incredible run lately (how many consecutive years of AFCCG appearances again now?) but that's not sustainable; it WILL end at some point. Are you actually a fan of the Pats or are you only a fan of winning?

Second, I don't even see how anyone can feel so negatively about ANY game considering we were just treated to the greatest comeback and Super Bowl performance of all time, and probably the most epic win any of us will ever see last year. And two years prior, another incredibly epic Super Bowl win which was previously the greatest comeback ever. I mean, the team could really suck and have a few rebuilding years and I would be fine with that - these last two wins have been so sweet, the good feelings from them will last a long, long time. Certainly a hell of a lot longer than one freaking regular season game.

Finally, the team has had bad games in winning seasons before. They weren't perfect by any means last season and won the Super Bowl. Hell, they weren't CLOSE to perfect IN that Super Bowl and still won it. Two years ago they got spanked on prime time by this same KC team and what happened? Super Bowl win. And there are other examples in the last decade-plus of great seasons by the Pats which contained **** games. It happens. We've been saying it for years now - the first few weeks are essentially extended preseason because of how training camp practice has been watered down. This will especially be true in a year where their potentially most critical offensive piece, Edelman, was just lost for the year a couple weeks ago. It will take time to settle everything and that might mean a few losses. But here's your PSA: they have the GOAT QB, HC and TE all on the team who are all driven to do everything possible to get it fixed and end the season hoisting the trophy again. Have these men not proven time and time again that they deserve an abundance of patience and respect?

If one loss (which wasn't even that bad of a loss), one game into the season, causes you to lose your **** and give up on the team, then perhaps you should consider finding another team to cheer for. Unfortunately, I don't think you will find one, because if your standard is perfection then you'll be looking indefinitely.

Just wanted to say my piece and hopefully influence some positivity here. I know some posters are just straight up trolls, and we do our best to cull that behavior when we can as mods, but most negativity is not trolling. Just be patient, people, and have a little respect for the team that's already given us more than any fan could ever ask for or deserve.

I agree with most, but by Patriots standards it was that bad of a bad loss
 
Not being a mod like Ross, I simply put a self embargo reading most threads for 48 hours or so. Does not include Ken threads, and such.
 
Next week can't come fast enough. The teams will just get tougher and this team will have to gel quickly.
 
I left Patsfan several months ago when I had the gall to worry about Atlanta's Defense prior to the Super Bowl, and I was mocked several times for being a "Chicken Little"

So yes, I consider that kind of intimidation/bullying a form of a censorship.

I'll tell you what I've told my two kids. Do not allow an anonymous poster on an internet forum wreck your day. You don't know them so why would you value their insults enough to ruin your life?

With that said I don't think it was the "Chicken Little" comments that bothered you. I think it was that your opinion was overwhelmingly disagreed with.

If you can't handle the debate or if it gets to you emotionally then you should back off and take a break.
 
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