Pats trade Jacoby Brissett to the Colts for Phillip Dorsett

[ViperGTS]

Really hasn't done much in his NFL career..a mehh player. Lets see how he fits

Like Ross said..so the pats are going to extend Jimmy next year?

Yes. There was smoke about Jimmy leaning towards staying and waiting. It's a good gig and it won't hurt his career. Too many backups have left and failed.

 

[long distance]

 

[NG Pats Fan]

To all the Dorsett haters out there; he was generally given a third round grade in the draft. Obviously, the Colts overdrafted him in the first round (what else is new). So, to be fair we can't rightfully call him a bust...yet. I am by no means sold on the acquisition (picking up playbook, chemistry with the Goat etc), but I am sold on his talent.

We shall see.

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Phillip Dorsett scouting profile

5'10 185lb. 9 3/8" hands


"Dorsett is fast and he's tough. He can just accelerate off the line of scrimmage. He catches the ball easily. When he gets vertical, forget about it. He has rare ability." -- Mike Mayock




Second-team All-ACC wide receiver in 2014. Ten of his 36 catches were for touchdowns and he averaged 24.2 yards per catch. Took part in 2015 Senior Bowl practices, but did not play in the game due to injury. In 2013, played in eight games and missed five games due to a partially torn MCL. Caught 13 passes for 272 yards and 2 touchdowns. In 2012, led Miami in receptions, receiving yards and touchdowns. Had four games of 100-plus yards. Won a 5A Florida State Championship while at St. Thomas Aquinas High School.


PRO DAY RESULTS

40-yard dash: 4.29 and 4.27 seconds
Vertical jump: 38 inches
Broad jump: 10 feet, 9 inches
Short shuttle: 4.03 seconds
3-cone: 6.85 seconds

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS
Takes the top off the defense and throws it in the trash. Elite explosiveness. Gets to top speed quickly and is a seamless glider on crossing routes, leaving man-to-man defenses in his wake. Can work outside and from the slot. Elevates and attacks contested catches. Outstanding body control and can adjust to the ball in mid-air. Mind-boggling big-play production with half of his catches going for 25-plus yards in 2014. More than just a vertical-only receiver and has the blazing feet and stop-start to beat zone coverage for big plays.

WEAKNESSES
Had partial tear of MCL in 2013. Still raw in his routes, relying on pure speed. Inconsistent with his hand placement to catch and lets the ball get on top of him. Small frame and will have to withstand hits over the middle as a slot receiver.

DRAFT PROJECTION
Rounds 1 or 2

SOURCES TELL US

"I will guarantee he goes in the top 40 this year. In fact, I will be surprised if he doesn't go in the first. Elite speed and separation player." - NFC executive

NFL COMPARISON
John Brown

BOTTOM LINE
Dorsett is an ascending prospect who has averaged more than 25 yards per catch since 2012. He can challenge teams vertically inside or outside and he has home-run potential after the catch as a slot receiver. With smaller wide receivers like T.Y. Hilton and Antonio Brown proving that small and fast can win in the NFL, Dorsett should be coveted by more than one team and has the potential to turn into a star in the NFL.

 

[JMC00]

Dont change your stance

The **** are you talking about

My stance was that DT was a need when Brown was picked and S wasn't. So people are idiots if you sit here 2 years later saying "Bill was stupid for picking Brown over Collins".. That stance has nothing to do with the clear fact Belichick had Brown ranked higher than Collins because HE PICKED BROWN..


Your take is nothing but hindsight, if Bill took Collins and the Giants took Brown and Collins was a solid player and Brown had a great All-Pro season you'd be sitting here saying how Bill should have taken Brown.

 

[festy1986]

Colts now have a Superbowl winning qb.

Good for them.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

But but but but but but brady can't throw the deep ball!

 

[PatsWSB47]

Can't wait for tomorrow and Monday to hear from the local contrarians on how every move the Pats made today we're wrong

 

[The Gr8est]

Colts now have a Superbowl winning qb.

Good for them.

Philip Dorsett is a small price to pay to give the Colts players a chance to see what a SB ring looks like up close.

 

[RayClay]

Exactly my point. Drafting out of need is how you get stuck with players who don't live up to their draft status. BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE, plain and simple. Its what everyone preaches bill does, and look what happened when he forgot that approach. With the way we made trades (hicks), and signed FA's (branch) is easy to argue that picking brown over collins was a huge mistake.

He absolutely does not do that. He identifies players he likes, if he has a role they might play and they are draftable in the right spot [except for the rare players] he pulls the trigger. He has also professed a preference in drafting very large athletic players because there are only so many of them.

Why would you spend draft capital and money on a player who has to beat out 2 established players he likes already at a position?

 

[JMC00]

Actually could kind of make the argument they have 3. Not saying Hogan is an elite one but he showed last year he is sneaky solid deep threat.

 

[RayClay]

BB has never drafted BPA. It's pretty much a myth that ANYBODY does. The only time you draft BPA is when you have a dearth of talent across the board...and have already signed a QB.

Or, when your team sucks so bad, everybody can start.

 

[PatsFan2]

Safeties are gonna have to play from the bleachers!!

What's the name of that new D?? real Deep.

 

[Uptown]

What's the name of that new D?? real Deep.

Or the BB GTFB Defense aka "GET THE F*#K BACK!!!"

 

[RichardHead]

In other news, fire is hot and the sun will come up in the East tomorrow.

I could see him dressed as the punt returner. He won't see any offensive snaps, just like Cyrus Jones wasn't going to see any defensive snaps. BB has said PR is a specialist position, much like long snapper. It's not like Cardona is lining up on offense.

 

[TeamFirst]

Curran also said this...Hmmmm

 

[The Gr8est]

He absolutely does not do that. He identifies players he likes, if he has a role they might play and they are draftable in the right spot [except for the rare players] he pulls the trigger. He has also professed a preference in drafting very large athletic players because there are only so many of them.

Why would you spend draft capital and money on a player who has to beat out 2 established players he likes already at a position?

Ron Brace may have been drafted for need, and it didn't work out.

 

[PatsFan2]

This is the thank you Bill Fatcells Trade. Imagine if we had drafted the accurate Dak Prescott instead things that make you go Hmmmm....shaking my head.

 

[TBR]

The best deep threat group, sure.

But Cooks and Dorsett are obviously far from being Julio Jones and AJ Green.

 

[Uptown]

This has been posted before, but I'll post it AGAIN. From the 2015 predraft NFL.com scouting profile:

STRENGTHS
Takes the top off the defense and throws it in the trash. Elite explosiveness. Gets to top speed quickly and is a seamless glider on crossing routes, leaving man-to-man defenses in his wake. Can work outside and from the slot. Elevates and attacks contested catches. Outstanding body control and can adjust to the ball in mid-air. Mind-boggling big-play production with half of his catches going for 25-plus yards in 2014. More than just a vertical-only receiver and has the blazing feet and stop-start to beat zone coverage for big plays.
WEAKNESSES
Had partial tear of MCL in 2013. Still raw in his routes, relying on pure speed. Inconsistent with his hand placement to catch and lets the ball get on top of him. Small frame and will have to withstand hits over the middle as a slot receiver.
DRAFT PROJECTION
Rounds 1 or 2
SOURCES TELL US
"I will guarantee he goes in the top 40 this year. In fact, I will be surprised if he doesn't go in the first. Elite speed and separation player." - NFC executive
NFL COMPARISON
John Brown
BOTTOM LINE
Dorsett is an ascending prospect who has averaged more than 25 yards per catch since 2012. He can challenge teams vertically inside or outside and he has home-run potential after the catch as a slot receiver. With smaller wide receivers like T.Y. Hilton and Antonio Brown proving that small and fast can win in the NFL, Dorsett should be coveted by more than one team and has the potential to turn into a star in the NFL.

Walter Football compared him to Mike Wallace and projected first or early second.

NFL Draft Scout had him late first early second.

So no. He was generally given a first, early second round grade.

I stand corrected. Still doesn't mean he his/ will be a bust. He's playing with Brady & being coached by an organization that isn't a dumpster fire. We shall see.

 

[RayClay]

Dorsett has returned P and K between college and pro without seeming a standout in either statistically. Of the two, pure speed would say he could be a good KR. No way to tell on punt returns except doing it. Judgment, composude and elusiveness. Who would have predicted Edelman would be an all time great?