Schefter: WAS should trade Cousins now

[BTTA]

It's so political. They realigned certain districts and got rid of all the Blueskins. Completely offensive but that is Washington for you.

Very few of the team's fans in Washington are upset about the name. It isn't a big deal in the city.

 

[BTTA]

This is exactly why they shouldn't waste their time with Cousins. Second tier. There is first place and then there is F-all. Who cares about "good" ? I would want championships.

It depends on who you are when you are "I". If you are the coach, probably, although taking the risks that bring championships isn't necessarily the best path toward job security in the NFL. If you are the owner, you are probably managing to increase the value of your team, and year over year revenue, and championships aren't necessary to do that well in the NFL.

By most measures, most teams will do just fine ranging from 7-9 to 10-6 each year, and making the playoffs randomly.

Focusing so clearly on championships is largely a fans' mindset, along with a minority of coaches and players in the League.

 

[BelichickFan]

I would assume Washington would be a good landing spot for Jimmy G if Cousins leaves and if we end up moving Jimmy. I can't imagine Snyder letting Cousins leave then starting again with a rookie.

 

[Pessimistic Pete]

The guy had a contract lined up on a silver platter for him last year.

Home game week 17 against the Giants, in a game that had NO playoff implications for the Giants. Redskins win and they're in the playoffs, lose and they're eliminated.

Redskins have the ball down 13-10 in Giants territory with 1:10 left and 2 timeotuts.

You can not ask for a more cut and dry "prove it" scenario.

What does he do? Throw the game ending interception as the Redskins are eliminated from the playoffs.

 

[Jlaff]

The guy had a contract lined up on a silver platter for him last year.

Home game week 17 against the Giants, in a game that had NO playoff implications for the Giants. Redskins win and they're in the playoffs, lose and they're eliminated.

Redskins have the ball down 13-10 in Giants territory with 1:10 left and 2 timeotuts.

You can not ask for a more cut and dry "prove it" scenario.

What does he do? Throw the game ending interception as the Redskins are eliminated from the playoffs.

Great point.

 

[Deus Irae]

The guy had a contract lined up on a silver platter for him last year.

Home game week 17 against the Giants, in a game that had NO playoff implications for the Giants. Redskins win and they're in the playoffs, lose and they're eliminated.

Redskins have the ball down 13-10 in Giants territory with 1:10 left and 2 timeotuts.

You can not ask for a more cut and dry "prove it" scenario.

What does he do? Throw the game ending interception as the Redskins are eliminated from the playoffs.

Sort of like that Brady guy blew the 2 point conversion against the Broncos?

 

[farn]

Beginning in 2000
Dilfer
Johnson
Eli (twice)
Flacco

are all tier 2, or lower, QBs who've won championships.

Brady
Roethlisberger
Peyton

are elite QBs who won at least one championship when their play was not yet (or any longer, in Peyton's case) elite.

Wilson

is a question mark as to where to place him.

The notion that you need an elite QB to win championships simply doesn't hold up to scrutiny. You need elite QBs to remain as a top contender year after year, because the truly elite QB can cover up a lot of team deficiencies, but Peyton Manning and Brady are the only two of those the league has seen drafted since 1998. And, for those who would argue Rodgers, that would still only make 3.

While I agree with your premise, the QBs you named weren't taking up nearly as much of the cap as Cousins has/will. Flacco signed a monster deal after the championship and they've been mediocre since.

Washington won't make it to the top with Cousins.

 

[The Gr8est]

So if you have Cousins do you feel like your QB situation is settled or are you looking for something better?

 

[Joey007]

Sort of like that Brady guy's O-line blew the 2 point conversion against the Broncos?

Fixed

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Skins are in the No Mans Land Hell. They have a 2nd tier QB who can keep getting tagged at well over $20m. They can play the tag game, give him a big guaranteed contract, or get rid of him. Those are all pretty crappy options, but you can't blame Cousins. They only guaranteed him 2 years. Why would he sign that contract when he can continue getting tagged? Skins should make up their minds if they want him or not. They've bungled this for the last few years.

If they use a franchise tag a third time, it's about $35M!

 

[Patsgofor4]

Fixed

Nope. That one was on Brady. Broken coverage on Gronk, inexplicably. He had him open and just didn't see him. Yes the poor o-line performance that game played a role because Brady was not as patient and calm as he otherwise would have been but he had enough time to make the play, despite pressure by the d-line on the conversion.

I love Brady but I dislike Brady apologists. In this case, a photo says it all. The defender is 4-5 yards away from Brady as Gronk breaks wide-open.

 

[Love The Drake]

Nope. That one was on Brady. Broken coverage on Gronk, inexplicably. He had him open and just didn't see him. Yes the poor o-line performance that game played a role because Brady was not as patient and calm as he otherwise would have been but he had enough time to make the play, despite pressure by the d-line on the conversion.

I love Brady but I dislike Brady apologists. In this case, a photo says it all. The defender is 4-5 yards away from Brady as Gronk breaks wide-open.

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The D line certainly had Brayden off his game.

 

[NashuaPats]

Because of the strict salary cap, good quarterbacks are paid about the same as elite quarterbacks. That's just the way it is. If an elite quarterback demands more, it directly takes away from the rest of the team and his own success. In theory, Cousins shouldn't be worth elite money, which Washington seems to be struggling with, but in reality, he is. Thankfully, we have Brady who for a long time now has taken below market rate. He's awesome...in so many ways. GOAT!

 

[NormZauchin]

So if you have Cousins do you feel like your QB situation is settled or are you looking for something better?

The chance that Dan Snyder and his disfunctional staff will find a QB better than Cousins is less than the probability of the Omissioner confessing that Deflategate was a frame up. Pay the man.

 

[Patriot Missile]

I like the drama on this one. I mean, listening to them Monday, they threw shade in a unprofessional his way. They offered him a 2 year deal when other teams are willing to give him 4 or 5.

Do i think he is a franchise QB? Nope, but I like the way he is standing up to the man and taking franchise tag deals while making top 5 money. It's funny and I'm sorta glad he's sticking to them. Especially after Monday.

 

[Tony2046]

Nope. That one was on Brady. Broken coverage on Gronk, inexplicably. He had him open and just didn't see him. Yes the poor o-line performance that game played a role because Brady was not as patient and calm as he otherwise would have been but he had enough time to make the play, despite pressure by the d-line on the conversion.

I love Brady but I dislike Brady apologists. In this case, a photo says it all. The defender is 4-5 yards away from Brady as Gronk breaks wide-open.

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You're talking about one specific play and I agree that he missed Gronk but he was referring to the entire game which Brady had little to no time to get to his second read. Stork and his head bobs giving the defence their keys and Cannon playing with a messed up foot didn't help anything that game.

 

[bbobbo]

I watched Cousins play 3 or 4 games last season. He was amazing in 1 game. And average'ish in the others. From the little I have seen he seems to have a nice deep ball but lacks accuracy for the short to intermediate throws. Doesn't have a lot of zip on the ball.

I wouldn't want to pay him top money. I would franchise him again to see if he improves and if he doesn't show promise to the coaching staff. Then let him hit the open market.

when you franchise someone, by definition you are paying him top-level money (average of the top 5 salaries for the position).
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[DaBruinz]

They should sign him long term I think. Kirk is clearly in the 2nd tier of QBs not elite but good. They should lock him up.

I believe that they have to wait, now, because he signed his tender. Which is different than the Le'veon Bell situation.

 

[DaBruinz]

I watched Cousins play 3 or 4 games last season. He was amazing in 1 game. And average'ish in the others. From the little I have seen he seems to have a nice deep ball but lacks accuracy for the short to intermediate throws. Doesn't have a lot of zip on the ball.

I wouldn't want to pay him top money. I would franchise him again to see if he improves and if he doesn't show promise to the coaching staff. Then let him hit the open market.

deroc - Washington already franchised Cousins LAST year. That's why Cousins' franchise number is over $24M this year while the league number is $21.268M. If they were to designate him a 3rd time, his salary would jump by 44%. Cousins' 2018 salary would be $34.5+M. I know that Snyder is dumb, but he's not a fool.. Seriously..

Article 10, Section 2(b) of the last CBA:
Any Club that designates a player as a Franchise Player for the third time shall, on the date the third such designation is made, be deemed to have tendered the player a one-year NFL Player Contract for the greater of: (A) the average of the five largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position (within the categories set forth in Section 7(a) below) with the highest such average; (B) 120% of the average of the five largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position (within the categories set forth in Section 7(a) below) at which the player participated in the most plays during the prior League Year; or (C) 144% of his Prior Year Salary.

 

[deroc5050]

deroc - Washington already franchised Cousins LAST year. That's why Cousins' franchise number is over $24M this year while the league number is $21.268M. If they were to designate him a 3rd time, his salary would jump by 44%. Cousins' 2018 salary would be $34.5+M. I know that Snyder is dumb, but he's not a fool.. Seriously..

Article 10, Section 2(b) of the last CBA:
Any Club that designates a player as a Franchise Player for the third time shall, on the date the third such designation is made, be deemed to have tendered the player a one-year NFL Player Contract for the greater of: (A) the average of the five largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position (within the categories set forth in Section 7(a) below) with the highest such average; (B) 120% of the average of the five largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position (within the categories set forth in Section 7(a) below) at which the player participated in the most plays during the prior League Year; or (C) 144% of his Prior Year Salary.

Oh... yeah thats a problem