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Dion Lewis strikes back at Andy Hart via Twitter:

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Gronk is almost a HOFer and your binky Lewis on thin ice. Burkhead does what Lewis does and so does White. HAHA

What did Dion do to you?
 
I think Fart went to Dartmouth?
grew up in the town of dartmouth. went to tufts.

Dartmouth's Andy Hart looks forward to finishing what he started

A 12-year writer for Patriots Football Weekly, the 35-year-old Hart became associated with the New England Patriots in public relations. He had entered Tufts as an engineering student, but switched to an English major.

A 1996 graduate of Dartmouth High, where he captained the football team as a fullback and linebacker, Hart threw the shot put in indoor track and was an All-Star at second base. But he was never much of a distance runner. His longest race prior to the 2013 marathon was a 10k.
 
Nope. Gronk is a 100% lock for the Hall of Fame. Even Ditka, Bavarro or Winslow never played all facets of the position as well. But he wasn't on the field after the Week 9 of the season last year - -the season, Mr. Hart, the future assistant editor of the Methuen Inquirer was referencing in his "remarks"..

Bavarro is not in the HOF. Mr Football.


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Never said that Bavarro was in the Hall of Fame, Einstein.

Two distinct statements were separated by a period there. Since reading comprehension is difficult for you, ask your mom about that.

Has anyone loaned you the 3 Games to Glory V blu-ray yet? You won't believe what happened last year!
 
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Gronk is almost a HOFer and your binky Lewis on thin ice. Burkhead does what Lewis does and so does White. HAHA

Burkhead was active for every regular season game last year and had essentially the statline that Dion Lewis did the last two years playing only 7 games each season. Before that he was nothing but a full-time special teamer who saw a handful of carries in blowouts. He doesn't return kicks. Burkhead is a Bolden upgrade, not a Lewis replacement. The likelihood he's a significant contributor after the addition of Gillislee is probably the same likelihood that Bolden beats him out in camp; everything else is just buying the off-season hype.

We know what James White can do, and it's not the same as what Lewis can do. White's not nearly as explosive and their elusiveness can't even be measured on the same scale, and Lewis is miles better running the ball. White might have the best hands on the team and is a better pass protector. Different players.
 
What does that even mean, "his lot in life"?

It means Dion Lewis, who's been a marginal contributor and who nobody would recognize in any setting, keeps showing up at different events simply because of the laundry he wears. The laundry and the success of that laundry = Dion's current lot in life.
 
I love Andy and the PFW guys but I think the only guys on the team Andy likes are Gronk and Devlin. He thinks Edelman and Amendola are douchey because they are into fashion (he also doesn't seem to like Edelman's "feistiness"), he also dislikes pretty much everything about Brady off the field. Sometimes I think him and Paul try too hard to prove they're not homers and go too far in the opposite direction. In the end of the day though I love the show and all their personalities (except Eric he is a tool).
 
Burkhead was active for every regular season game last year and had essentially the statline that Dion Lewis did the last two years playing only 7 games each season. Before that he was nothing but a full-time special teamer who saw a handful of carries in blowouts. He doesn't return kicks. Burkhead is a Bolden upgrade, not a Lewis replacement. The likelihood he's a significant contributor after the addition of Gillislee is probably the same likelihood that Bolden beats him out in camp; everything else is just buying the off-season hype.

We know what James White can do, and it's not the same as what Lewis can do. White's not nearly as explosive and their elusiveness can't even be measured on the same scale, and Lewis is miles better running the ball. White might have the best hands on the team and is a better pass protector. Different players.

Burkhead had 10 more rushing attempts than Lewis last season with a better YPC. The 2015 season is no comparison. Burkhead had only 4 rushing attempts all season to Lewis 49 attempts. 2016 is a real comparison.

Lewis 64 att - 283 yards - 24 targets - 17 receptions - 94 yards
Burkhead 74 att - 344 yards - 20 targets - 17 receptions - 145 yards

Lewis 4.4 YAC 71% catch rate
Burkhead 4.6 YAC 85% catch rate

Burkhead does Dion Lewis job. Burkhead is not a Bolden who is a core special teamer and role player from time to time. Burkhead was brought to NE to play a larger role. The Pats do not head into a season wishing for a player to rebound unless his name is Brady or Gronkowski.

Burkhead did not compile garbage yards when you investigate his stats under the surface. His advanced splits bear that out very clearly.

2016
1st half rush yards 143
2nd half rush yards 201

58 of his 2nd half rush yards came in the 3rd quarter. 58.6% of Burkheads rushing yards came in quarters 1 - 3. I would not classify that as garbage yards.

Rex Burkhead 2016 Splits | Pro-Football-Reference.com
 
Burkhead had 10 more rushing attempts than Lewis last season with a better YPC. The 2015 season is no comparison. Burkhead had only 4 rushing attempts all season to Lewis 49 attempts. 2016 is a real comparison.

Lewis 64 att - 283 yards - 24 targets - 17 receptions - 94 yards
Burkhead 74 att - 344 yards - 20 targets - 17 receptions - 145 yards

Lewis 4.4 YAC 71% catch rate
Burkhead 4.6 YAC 85% catch rate

Burkhead does Dion Lewis job. Burkhead is not a Bolden who is a core special teamer and role player from time to time. Burkhead was brought to NE to play a larger role. The Pats do not head into a season wishing for a player to rebound unless his name is Brady or Gronkowski.

Burkhead did not compile garbage yards when you investigate his stats under the surface. His advanced splits bear that out very clearly.

2016
1st half rush yards 143
2nd half rush yards 201

58 of his 2nd half rush yards came in the 3rd quarter. 58.6% of Burkheads rushing yards came in quarters 1 - 3. I would not classify that as garbage yards.

Rex Burkhead 2016 Splits | Pro-Football-Reference.com


Omigod, I can't stop laughing!!!

Triumph googled an internet stat page but no one informed him that Dion Lewis missed the first half of the season after ACL surgery and a second subsequent knee surgery two weeks before the season opener?????? He wasn't cleared to hit the field until Week 10.

2016 is a "real comparison"?

Can someone brief the poor clown before he slips on any more bananas?????


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Your excuse is noted.

Personally I expect all the running backs to be in competition for playing time and all of the big 4 (White,Burkhead, Gillislee, and... who am I missing, oh yeah that other guy, him, you know the one) will get a good chance to make a case by week 4
 
Your excuse is noted.

Personally I expect all the running backs to be in competition for playing time and all of the big 4 (White,Burkhead, Gillislee, and... who am I missing, oh yeah that other guy, him, you know the one) will get a good chance to make a case by week 4


I agree. I would think the player who is truly on the bubble is Bolden although his new one year contract is for peanuts so he doesn't hit the cap much. Then again, cutting him wouldn't either. The Pats sure do have a plethora of depth there when you throw in DJ Foster - - great problem to have.


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In order of priority, here's how I'll see it going down.

First of all, I don't see James White as a man in any jeapordy whatsoever, he's the best third down slot back we've had since Danny Woodhead and he arguably could have been SB MVP. So third down snaps pretty much go to White until he proves he shouldn't have them. So we're really discussing how to prioritize Gillislee, Lewis and Burkhead.

The interesting question is, between Lewis and Burkhead, who gets priority on the third down snaps White can't take. Personally, I think Burkhead gets a look here. He fits the profile better for a player in that role.

Gillislee will take starting RB snaps on the first 2 downs, sincestatistically ha had the best year last year of any of the running backs in play.

That leaves Lewis in a role that might be best described as "jack of all trades, master of none." As a roleplaying back who can do a little of everything, I see Lewis and Burkhead getting a lot of snaps on special teams. I see those two making guys like Bolden redundant by being snap hungry enough, and skilled enough, to nail down a special teams role each. I definitely see both Burkhead and Lewis returning a few punts this year.

On the other hand, Lewis has one big advantage over the niche backs ahead of him on the depth chart. As a balanced all-rounder, it's not as obvious when Lewis comes in exactly what the play will be. If you see White, you can expect that if the ball gets to the RB it'll probably be on a slant or dump for catch-and-run yards. if Gillislee is in, just like Blount last year, you know that the Patriots are probably looking to block for the run and gain some yardage on the ground. You CAN play against their tendencies but the percentages will tend to suffer if you do. So those two have roles they play and are especially good at, and the playbook will probably favor calls that play to those strengths when they're on the field.

But Lewis and Burkhead are backs that don't telegraph any particular intention by Belichick. Instead of being great at any one thing those two are pretty good at everything. The whole playbook is open for Lewis and Burkhead like it isn't for White or Gillislee. I can see those two getting some key snaps for that reason alone, especially for Lewis who was used for that purpose in a couple key plays last year (thinking of the flea flicker to Hogan in the AFCCG where Lewis sold the run perfectly to keep the Steelers defense guessing).

Is "ambush back" a role? Because that's the niche I see Lewis carving out. He's not the best at any one thing but he can run between the tackles, and can handle a pass, and can run trick plays, so if the defense is clamping down too hard on White or Gillislee, bring in the wildcard to sow a bit more confusion and open the field.

(Burkhead can do this too, but I see Burkhead as being the main guy who finds his niche in special teams)
 
Omigod, I can't stop laughing!!!

Triumph googled an internet stat page but no one informed him that Dion Lewis missed the first half of the season after ACL surgery and a second subsequent knee surgery two weeks before the season opener?????? He wasn't cleared to hit the field until Week 10.

2016 is a "real comparison"?

Can someone brief the poor clown before he slips on any more bananas?????

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Forest

Burkhead entered the 2016 season with a neck injury. He did not see significant playing time until game 11. He did all his damage past week 10. Got it? Up in till that game Burkhead only had 6 carries.. 2 carries were in the final minute of the NE game.

Stick to finding the ghosts of the NFL hall of fame.
 
Forest

Burkhead entered the 2016 season with a neck injury. He did not see significant playing time until game 11. He did all his damage past week 10. Got it? Up in till that game Burkhead only had 6 carries.. 2 carries were in the final minute of the NE game.

Stick to finding the ghosts of the NFL hall of fame.


Burkhead was active for all 16 regular season games last year. His neck injury was good enough for him to be DRESSED AND ON THE FIELD for game one and every game thereafter. Ask a football fan what it means to be dressed and declared active for a regular season game. He wasn't on IR and he wasn't even declared inactive for any game last season.

If you believe that is an "apples to apples" comparison to Dion Lewis who was coming back from an ACL tear, a second knee surgery in late August and was not even declared active for a game until Week 10 of the 2016 season, then you are beyond help, son.

So spare us your uninformed spin. You DO realize this is Patsfans.com? You're not fooling anyone.

And btw, has anyone shown you Three Games to Glory V yet? Spoiler alert: The Patriots won.

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Burkhead was active for all 16 regular season games last year. His neck injury was good enough for him to be DRESSED AND ON THE FIELD for game one and every game thereafter. Ask a football fan what it means to be dressed and declared active for a regular season game. He wasn't on IR and he wasn't even declared inactive for any game last season.

If you believe that is an "apples to apples" comparison to Dion Lewis who was coming back from an ACL tear, a second knee surgery in late August and was not even declared active for a game until Week 10 of the 2016 season, then you are beyond help, son.

So spare us your uninformed spin. You DO realize this is Patsfans.com? You're not fooling anyone.

And btw, has anyone shown you Three Games to Glory V yet? Spoiler alert: The Patriots won.

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If I were to ask a knowledgeable football fan anything, there would be no point in asking you.

Burkhead was still injured and could not play because of injury. Skippy. There is no way that youre a Physician. Therefore you have no clue regarding his medical condition. You think that you know just like your hallucinations that Bavvaro is in the HOF.

Too funny.
 
If I were to ask a knowledgeable football fan anything, there would be no point in asking you.

Burkhead was still injured and could not play because of injury. Skippy. There is no way that youre a Physician. Therefore you have no clue regarding his medical condition. You think that you know just like your hallucinations that Bavvaro is in the HOF.

Too funny.

"Burkhead was still injured and could not play because of injury. Skippy"??????????

WHAT????

He was DRESSED and ACTIVE for every game.

Do you know ONE thing about the NFL? Every single other poster here is laughing their heads off at what you just wrote. If player is hurt and cannot play because of injury, guess what you ridiculous tool? They do not dress that player and activate him. That's why the roster has 53 players. You DO understand that only 46 can be dressed and active for a game?

What you are hallucinating is that the Bengals kept 7 roster players (who won jobs after going through training camp) off the field for a regular season game so they could dress and keep an active player whom you claim could not play due to injury.

At this point it is clear you are either mentally incompetent or are simply trolling.

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