Potential FA Values

[manxman2601]

Charles Robinson is tweeting out potential free agent values for some players. Useful to get an idea of the market.

 

[manxman2601]

 

[Love The Drake]

Eh we could of had Pryor before but would rather have Cooks but would be happy withPryor

 

[jmt57]

If teams want to fight over Mike Glennon and tie their future to a QB with a 5-13 career record and sub-60% completion rate, then they deserve to continue to wallow in mediocrity. He may deserve a chance at competing for a starting job, but it would be foolish to commit such a high percentage of your cap space (14-15 million per year) to Glennon.

 

[Marqui]

wat

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Charles Robinson is tweeting out potential free agent values for some players. Useful to get an idea of the market.

Let it be the jets who dish out that kind of cash for glennon.

 

[patsinthesnow]

Pryor is enticing for 10 million. I could find the article later but his separation per route was right there with Julio Jones and Antonio Brown.

That's a solid price for a potential superstar WR.*

*Only reason I'm looking at WRs entering FA now is BB. Seems like he wants a big time one at this point despite the offense scoring 30+ PPG without Gronk.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

I see bb focusing on guys that are released.

 

[Grogan14]

Wow, mediocre to above average talent 10-14 million/year. What a joke.
Stephen Gilmore wants 14 million/year

In this market some patriots players seems incredibly underpaid.

1) Edelman 5.75 million/year
2) Brady-14 million year
3) Blount 1 million/year
4) Butler probably around 3 million/year on RFA contract
5) Devin Mccourty 10 M/year
6) Gronk 6.75M/year
7) Amendola 7.75 M/year

I feel like Edelman is ridiculously underpaid for his production. Would be nice to see him get a salary adjustment. Love Amendola but he should not be paid more than Edelman. Brady's cap hit is incredible.
Shows how critical it is to be proactive about extensions and avoiding free agency.



How will Bill keep these guys happy? Fortunately money is not the prime motivating factor for a lot of these guys
If this is the market HT will surely get 16-17M/year and I doubt patriots match that.

 

[supafly]

Seems like a lot of the same, only with different names. Let's see what Pryor and Gilmore fetch. I'm thinking those numbers are a bit inflated.

 

[luuked]

If this is the market HT will surely get 16-17M/year and I doubt patriots match that.

That's not how it works.

He will land somewhere between 12.5m and 12m. I think the big question mark with him and his injury-ridden past is the amount of guaranteed vs. incentives and not the contract total. If there is a bidding war between multiple FA teams he might hit over 13 ?

 

[luuked]

Pryor is enticing for 10 million. I could find the article later but his separation per route was right there with Julio Jones and Antonio Brown.

That's a solid price for a potential superstar WR.*

*Only reason I'm looking at WRs entering FA now is BB. Seems like he wants a big time one at this point despite the offense scoring 30+ PPG without Gronk.

Pryor getting a 10m market is exactly why BB is entertaining the Cooks situation. Getting a WR for 10m would totally disrupt the payment structure on this team. Cooks could be had for 5m per year over the next two years. Listen to Howe's podcast he explains the BB/Caserio compensation model pretty well:

Malcolm Butler, Logan Ryan Pose Unique Challenge for Patriots' Financial Strategy in Free Agency - The Jeff Howe Show

 

[patsinthesnow]

Pryor getting a 10m market is exactly why BB is entertaining the Cooks situation. Getting a WR for 10m would totally disrupt the payment structure on this team. Cooks could be had for 5m per year over the next two years. Listen to Howe's podcast he explains the BB/Caserio compensation model pretty well:

Malcolm Butler, Logan Ryan Pose Unique Challenge for Patriots' Financial Strategy in Free Agency - The Jeff Howe Show

I'm aware of their strategy. It's worked well but these deals were signed in a different market. Edelman gets close to 10 million in the current market.

BB also paid Floyd 1+ million dollars for about a month's work. That somewhat contradicts the depth chart structure model.

 

[supafly]

BB also paid Floyd 1+ million dollars for about a month's work. That somewhat contradicts the depth chart structure model.

I think the signing was geared for 2017, since Belichick obviously knew that he wouldn't be contributing much, if anything, for 2016. It actually may be right in line with the typical low risk/high reward type of cheap, value signing that we're used to seeing.

 

[BobDigital]

No one with a big name will be good value very likely.

My top value guys are

Leon Hall - CB
Karl Krug - DE

 

[ausbacker]

Wow, mediocre to above average talent 10-14 million/year. What a joke.
Stephen Gilmore wants 14 million/year

In this market some patriots players seems incredibly underpaid.

1) Edelman 5.75 million/year
2) Brady-14 million year
3) Blount 1 million/year
4) Butler probably around 3 million/year on RFA contract
5) Devin Mccourty 10 M/year
6) Gronk 6.75M/year
7) Amendola 7.75 M/year

I feel like Edelman is ridiculously underpaid for his production. Would be nice to see him get a salary adjustment. Love Amendola but he should not be paid more than Edelman. Brady's cap hit is incredible.
Shows how critical it is to be proactive about extensions and avoiding free agency.



How will Bill keep these guys happy? Fortunately money is not the prime motivating factor for a lot of these guys
If this is the market HT will surely get 16-17M/year and I doubt patriots match that.

I used to get sucked in by the numbers. They're largely useless. It's guaranteed money that's the important figure.

 

[Wheelman]

If teams want to fight over Mike Glennon and tie their future to a QB with a 5-13 career record and sub-60% completion rate, then they deserve to continue to wallow in mediocrity. He may deserve a chance at competing for a starting job, but it would be foolish to commit such a high percentage of your cap space (14-15 million per year) to Glennon.

I just want to know whose dumb idea it was to sign Brock Osweiler to that contract. Absolutely freaking stupid. Brock is a horrible quarterback. He can't read a defense properly and know where to go with the ball.

 

[zimmy]

If we could get Robert Woods on a 4 year $7-8m average I would love it. He has been a binky of mine since the draft. Wanted the Pats to take him at the time - and I think we were heavily linked.

 

[luuked]

I'm aware of their strategy. It's worked well but these deals were signed in a different market. Edelman gets close to 10 million in the current market.

BB also paid Floyd 1+ million dollars for about a month's work. That somewhat contradicts the depth chart structure model.

The move to get someone still on the rookie deal is a pretty clever way to avoid paying market price for 2 years so I am not sure how the amount Edelman or whoever would get on the open market is relevant at all. In fact, that's my entire point on why this trade is not as crazy as it sounds. At least financially it makes sense.

How much did Floyd get overall last year from the Patriots compared to the rest of the players ? Not more than anyone ahead of him in the depth chart. It's the same argument as to why Mitchell is not being compensated according to his depth chart position relative to other WRs. In both those cases the Pats were locked into a contract for one reason or the other.

So I don't see your point at all about how Floyd disrupted the pay scale. That entire model only applies to contracts that are actually fully negotiated by the Pats.

 

[cstjohn17]

Hard to get any hopes up, I would be surprised if they sign 2 or 3 from the top 101

2017 NFL free agency: The original top 101 players

As it sits now the defense needs from players.