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sorry, haven't read entire thread..was it the Thomas hit that injured his disk?....
 
sorry, haven't read entire thread..was it the Thomas hit that injured his disk?....
The early conjecture was that, but the later conjecture is that it happened when he reached for a pass in the Jets game.
 
Gronk has had so many injuries, it's not like we haven't played without him before.

We have Brady and plenty of weapons, including a fully capable replacement for Gronk. Bennett has been a monster. We'll be fine.
 
You got some inside source on what this back surgery exactly is about ? Because given what Curran has said on Twitter I don't think it sounds like "major" back surgery:



Especially if he had the option to just rest it out.

I think first of all, ANY back surgery is "major" or serious, especially when it's your 3rd one. I mean, c'mon.

Secondly, "resting it out" (pitiful, terrible wording from Curran) and hoping that physical therapy helps the body to reabsorb the fluid/gel like material from the ruptured/herniated disk is pretty much a futile effort, unless one is willing to go through 18-24 months of sheer agony, or they get lucky and see results through steroid epidurals, etc. There's obviously a reason why the team didn't even bother attempting that route, which is almost always the preferred initial method of treatment. As you noted, he'd have been risking permanent nerve damage, so why "resting it out" would even be considered for him at this point in time is beyond me. Curran is wrong on this.

It also can take months and months before you have any hint as to whether or not the PT is even working, so if he did "rest it out" only to find out in the spring that he'd need surgery, a majority of 2017 could be in jeopardy. Much like JJ Watt, they bypassed any thought of PT and went right for surgery this time. Again, this is for a reason. The days of resting it out are gone in situations like this. I'm sure no one wished to concede the remainder of Gronk's 2016 production heading into the postseason because "it wasn't major..."

When it ruptures, the material inside leaks all over your nerve endings, often including symptoms of sciatica--which is what he experienced the first time. They then go in (lamenectomy, and often diskectomy) and clean up all of that exploded material to allow the nerves an attempt to rejuvenate. Sometimes it happens in 3 months, sometimes in 12 months, and sometimes not at all.

If you read his comments from the first one, he was quite concerned that he'd never regain feeling in his bottom legs/toes again, which is where I'm at after about 3 months out of surgery right now. Since that fluid inside the disk cannot come back and we've yet to see medical breakthroughs for "fake disks" implanted, there's no longer anything to hold the back up in place. It's why people often need a fusion surgery for their spinal column. Either way, post-NFL career, he will have issues for the rest of his life.

I would bet any amount of money that he will almost certainly need that fusion surgery at some point in the next handful of years, and had it not been for his football career, he'd have likely gotten it already. He's a freak athlete so he may be able to return to 75-80 percent of where he was at some point, but he may not be long for this game after this latest news. Fingers crossed.

Here's an article from his obstacles on the last one. They don't get easier as they go on, but quite the opposite.

Patriots TE Rob Gronkowski can return from back surgery, but will he be same dominant player? - The Boston Globe
 
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At next years $$amount I can see them riding out Gronk for one more year, but no WAY they keep him beyond then
 
I hope we run the ball more Blount has been amazing this season and we need to take pressure away from a limping TB12 now with Gronk gone
 
Nancy Negative

Riley realistic.

Bro, come on. You know it's true.

Let's just hope Marty can stay healthy and give up some of the stuff Gronk could. Who knows. Maybe they can still get one for the thumb
 
Yeah, if the 8 weeks is accurate, he's out until the week before the Super Bowl. Doesn't seem worth it to be a man down for 7 games.
They do have game day inactives.
I would absolute keep him on the roster and would do the same with Brady Butler Edelman and Hightower.
 
But at this point I think we have to shut Bennett down next week. Idk what the hell we do at TE but it is crucial not to lose him as well. He's been hobbled for a good part of this season.

I agree do we really need him against the Rams? Rest him.
 
I think first of all, ANY back surgery is "major" or serious, especially when it's your 3rd one. I mean, c'mon.

Secondly, "resting it out" (pitiful, terrible wording from Curran) and hoping that physical therapy helps the body to reabsorb the fluid/gel like material from the ruptured/herniated disk is pretty much a futile effort, unless one is willing to go through 18-24 months of sheer agony, or they get lucky and see results through steroid epidurals, etc. There's obviously a reason why the team didn't even bother attempting that route, which is almost always the preferred initial method of treatment. As you noted, he'd have been risking permanent nerve damage, so why "resting it out" would even be considered for him at this point in time is beyond me. Curran is wrong on this.

It also can take months and months before you have any hint as to whether or not the PT is even working, so if he did "rest it out" only to find out in the spring that he'd need surgery, a majority of 2017 could be in jeopardy. Much like JJ Watt, they bypassed any thought of PT and went right for surgery this time. Again, this is for a reason. The days of resting it out are gone in situations like this. I'm sure no one wished to concede the remainder of Gronk's 2016 production heading into the postseason because "it wasn't major..."

When it ruptures, the material inside leaks all over your nerve endings, often including symptoms of sciatica--which is what he experienced the first time. They then go in (lamenectomy, and often diskectomy) and clean up all of that exploded material to allow the nerves an attempt to rejuvenate. Sometimes it happens in 3 months, sometimes in 12 months, and sometimes not at all.

If you read his comments from the first one, he was quite concerned that he'd never regain feeling in his bottom legs/toes again, which is where I'm at after about 3 months out of surgery right now. Since that fluid inside the disk cannot come back and we've yet to see medical breakthroughs for "fake disks" implanted, there's no longer anything to hold the back up in place. It's why people often need a fusion surgery for their spinal column. Either way, post-NFL career, he will have issues for the rest of his life.

I would bet any amount of money that he will almost certainly need that fusion surgery at some point in the next handful of years, and had it not been for his football career, he'd have likely gotten it already. He's a freak athlete so he may be able to return to 75-80 percent of where he was at some point, but he may not be long for this game after this latest news. Fingers crossed.

Here's an article from his obstacles on the last one. They don't get easier as they go on, but quite the opposite.

Patriots TE Rob Gronkowski can return from back surgery, but will he be same dominant player? - The Boston Globe

You have a ****ton more experience with all of that so thanks for that post.

Fingers crossed for Gronk and personally I hope that both sides agree that the best thing to do is to put him on IR and just close the book on 2016. While it would be great to get him back, I just dont think its worth the risk.

That being said, the fan in me hopes that somehow he makes it onto the plane to the SB.
 
Coach Fisher commented on this today:
"Too bad about the injury to Greg. But they can just roll Derek out there at tight end. Pauly won't miss a beat throwing to him."

Forget the Super Bowl. We should worry about the Rams. Line just collapsed from 13.5 to 13.
 
The early conjecture was that, but the later conjecture is that it happened when he reached for a pass in the Jets game.
Yeah, you don't herniate a disc and then not know it for a week.
 
The madden curse is for real. Thats all I have to say on this.
 
You have a ****ton more experience with all of that so thanks for that post.

Fingers crossed for Gronk and personally I hope that both sides agree that the best thing to do is to put him on IR and just close the book on 2016. While it would be great to get him back, I just dont think its worth the risk.

That being said, the fan in me hopes that somehow he makes it onto the plane to the SB.
Yeah, me too, bud. Me too.

Not meaning to come off as negative, so apologies if so. Just stating that there's right to be concerned.

As far as any talk of returning for the SB, one would have to wonder if he'd be repeating his decoy role from 2011. I'm good either way as a fan, but this news has certainly ruined my day.
 
Article in the Globe on Gronk's last surgery says recovery time is 12 weeks.
 
I think first of all, ANY back surgery is "major" or serious, especially when it's your 3rd one. I mean, c'mon.

Secondly, "resting it out" (pitiful, terrible wording from Curran) and hoping that physical therapy helps the body to reabsorb the fluid/gel like material from the ruptured/herniated disk is pretty much a futile effort, unless one is willing to go through 18-24 months of sheer agony, or they get lucky and see results through steroid epidurals, etc. There's obviously a reason why the team didn't even bother attempting that route, which is almost always the preferred initial method of treatment. As you noted, he'd have been risking permanent nerve damage, so why "resting it out" would even be considered for him at this point in time is beyond me. Curran is wrong on this.

It also can take months and months before you have any hint as to whether or not the PT is even working, so if he did "rest it out" only to find out in the spring that he'd need surgery, a majority of 2017 could be in jeopardy. Much like JJ Watt, they bypassed any thought of PT and went right for surgery this time. Again, this is for a reason. The days of resting it out are gone in situations like this. I'm sure no one wished to concede the remainder of Gronk's 2016 production heading into the postseason because "it wasn't major..."

When it ruptures, the material inside leaks all over your nerve endings, often including symptoms of sciatica--which is what he experienced the first time. They then go in (lamenectomy, and often diskectomy) and clean up all of that exploded material to allow the nerves an attempt to rejuvenate. Sometimes it happens in 3 months, sometimes in 12 months, and sometimes not at all.

If you read his comments from the first one, he was quite concerned that he'd never regain feeling in his bottom legs/toes again, which is where I'm at after about 3 months out of surgery right now. Since that fluid inside the disk cannot come back and we've yet to see medical breakthroughs for "fake disks" implanted, there's no longer anything to hold the back up in place. It's why people often need a fusion surgery for their spinal column. Either way, post-NFL career, he will have issues for the rest of his life.

I would bet any amount of money that he will almost certainly need that fusion surgery at some point in the next handful of years, and had it not been for his football career, he'd have likely gotten it already. He's a freak athlete so he may be able to return to 75-80 percent of where he was at some point, but he may not be long for this game after this latest news. Fingers crossed.

Here's an article from his obstacles on the last one. They don't get easier as they go on, but quite the opposite.

Patriots TE Rob Gronkowski can return from back surgery, but will he be same dominant player? - The Boston Globe
Ok you've thoroughly freaked me out over the herniated disc I had over the summer. I did the raise the legs lying down test, or whatever it is, where sciatica type pain below knee = herniated disc. But I didn't go to the doctor and it eventually healed, despite the fact I could hardly walk for a few days. Ffs now I'm going to the doctor.
 
I agree do we really need him against the Rams? Rest him.

Agreed. Don't need Bennett or Brady really to beat Rams. Obviously T.B will play.
 
I hope Gronk is smart and does what is best for his long term health. Three back surgeries before the age of 28 is no joke. I hope his surgery is successful and he has a full recovery. Get well soon Gronk!
 
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