Carroll thanks Pats fans for the quiet atmosphere

[stcjones]

Man, we had Browner, Revis, Chandler, and Collins in our defense. 4 really good/great players for that year. I miss that.

Yep...and that is the primary reason we won a championship against the hawks and the other years....Defense. A stout reliable Defense still wins championships!!!

 

[PittPatriot]

Been to every game except Houston. Seahawks game was the loudest by far. I was disappointed again at the empty red seats after half time though.

I noticed that on the aerial shot on TV.
I actually thought it was not Live...but I guess it was.

 

[bresna]

This brings back happy memories, for multiple reasons..

Now that was the loudest crowd I ever heard at Gillette. It was insane. Best game I ever witnessed live.

 

[bresna]

Fact is...instead of adding seats to increase crowd noise wine & quiche connoisseur Robert Kraft blew away 1,500 ST end zone seats owned by the plebs so that the truly beautiful people with the box etc. seats could pay another premium $$$ to have yet another venue to socialize, pay $$$ for wine and food and pretty much ignore the game.
You go Bob!

Petey is right. Compared to Seattle raucous 12th person, Gillette sounds like a library reading room.

Maybe it's not obvious on TV, but a secondary result of the new endzone club is the relocation of the Minutemen and their muskets to the other end of the field. Now there are no muskets at that end of the field. After a score, they all fire from the open end of the stadium. It used to be a lot louder when they were split between the two endzones.

 

[Dorito Dink]

Yep...and that is the primary reason we won a championship against the hawks and the other years....Defense. A stout reliable Defense still wins championships!!!

People keep reiterating this and it's just not true. In every year that we won, our defense both a. gave up more points than their season average and b. blew a late lead

Outside of 2001, our defense significantly underperformed in the SB and it was our offense who were most responsible for the win. Ironically, our offense pissed the bed in our 2 Super Bowl losses while our defense played decently and more toward their potential (average to slightly above average)

My overall point being is that the whole schtick that "if this defense doesn't improve then no way we win the SB" is complete nonsense. We have the best offense in the NFL, by far, and our defense is more than serviceable to win. I have no idea why we implemented the gameplan we did on Sunday night but I would venture to guess BB and co. aren't caught with their pants down again. They'll make adjustments and have this defense playing well enough to win the Super Bowl

If we're healthy come January, the Pats will be the significant favorites to win it all. Again.

 

[PatsDeb]

Of note, during the 2011-2012 years, when the D could never get off the field on third down, I noticed a lot of people just got tired from consecutive drives of screaming their heads off, only to have the opponent convert on the third down and then the cycle starts again, over and over.

This is the issue, or was the issue on Sunday. It did get deadly quiet sometimes, which is unfortunate, but it was disheartening to see the Pats D give up big plays all over the place, drive after drive. Sometimes the fans are just stunned IMO. It happens at other fields too. It doesn't mean we don't support the team. Pretty much nobody left early, even though the game ran late into a Sunday night.

Oh and F Pete Carroll and the horse he came in on. He was here in the old stadium when the fans were a lot closer to the field and the noise issue never came up. Stadium design, crowd make up (let's face it, New Englanders are more reserved than yahoos, no matter what is going on) and how the team is doing overall come into play.

 

[FourierSeries]

Yep...and that is the primary reason we won a championship against the hawks and the other years....Defense. A stout reliable Defense still wins championships!!!

A defense that gave up 400+ yards and 31 points to the Ravens, and then let Seattle easily march down the field on the final drive of the 1st half and on their final drive of the game is the primary reason we won? Not Tom Brady, Julian Edelman, Gronk, Danny Amendola, and the entire offense playing out of their minds and averaging 36 PPG?

Nice revisionist history.

 

[aluminum seats]

People keep reiterating this and it's just not true. In every year that we won, our defense .. blew a late lead

The Pats shutout Seattle in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

You know what I hate? When announcers feel the need to call out how quiet the crowd is. "And this crowd of 65,000 ____ fans has gone dead quiet." Yea, good ****ing observation dinkleberg. Clearly they should be raucous and yelling and screaming and cheering when the other team scores a touchdown after sucking up 7 minutes of clock time. Oooh, you got us!

 

[Pats1989]

People keep reiterating this and it's just not true. In every year that we won, our defense both a. gave up more points than their season average and b. blew a late lead

Outside of 2001, our defense significantly underperformed in the SB and it was our offense who were most responsible for the win. Ironically, our offense pissed the bed in our 2 Super Bowl losses while our defense played decently and more toward their potential (average to slightly above average)

My overall point being is that the whole schtick that "if this defense doesn't improve then no way we win the SB" is complete nonsense. We have the best offense in the NFL, by far, and our defense is more than serviceable to win. I have no idea why we implemented the gameplan we did on Sunday night but I would venture to guess BB and co. aren't caught with their pants down again. They'll make adjustments and have this defense playing well enough to win the Super Bowl

If we're healthy come January, the Pats will be the significant favorites to win it all. Again.

You mentioned the offense pissing the bed in two SB losses. The Giants ( With a bit of help from Welker) completely shut us down in SB 46 2nd half. In SB 42, Brady hit Moss for the go ahead TD. They had a four point lead. It was the defense who coughed it up.

 

[TennisBallHead]

The 2014 team got home field because of the defense, but 15 offensive touchdowns won them the SB.

 

[Wheelman]

I was dissing the crowd in chat too. Getting loud during a FG attempt but not before on 3rd down? WTF!

 

[Wheelman]

Carroll is full of crap. The crowd was as loud as it can be last night. But it can be deflating when the defense keeps soiling itself.

I wonder. Does Seattle's stadium design allow fans to save their energy by not having to be as loud at times because the stadium design helps with the sound? And that's the reason It's always loud there, even when they suck, are losing, and have no chance of making the playoffs, compared to a very open stadium like Foxborough?

 

[Tunescribe]

I wonder. Does Seattle's stadium design allow fans to save their energy by not having to be as loud at times because the stadium design helps with the sound? And that's the reason It's always loud there, even when they suck, are losing, and have no chance of making the playoffs, compared to a very open stadium like Foxborough?

You're correct. I have been to both stadiums. The acoustical design difference between Gillette and Seattle's stadium is like comparing a dinner plate to a megaphone.

 

[JMC00]

A defense that gave up 400+ yards and 31 points to the Ravens, and then let Seattle easily march down the field on the final drive of the 1st half and on their final drive of the game is the primary reason we won? Not Tom Brady, Julian Edelman, Gronk, Danny Amendola, and the entire offense playing out of their minds and averaging 36 PPG?

Nice revisionist history.

Ya I really don't know why people would ever reference those games when talking about the '14 defense. Especially the Ravens game, Brady put the team on his f**king back in that one.

You want to talk about games for the '14 defense. Talk about the Denver game when the beat them up so bad in Foxboro they were so scared to come back that they laid down to f**cking Andrew Luck and the dolts who proceeded to come to Foxboro and Andrew Luck played one of the worst games ever by a QB in the playoffs.

It's hilarious how people say "get Brady a defense" and then Belichick brings in some guys and Brady ends up putting the team on his back. Hilarious thing is the '11 defense played better than the '14 defense in the playoffs. Gave up 37 points in the playoffs in '11 and in '14 the defense gave up 62 points in the playoffs.

Real difference in the results of those post-seasons. Edelman caught 3rd and 14 and Welker dropped 2nd and 11.

 

[JMC00]

Man, we had Browner, Revis, Chandler, and Collins in our defense. 4 really good/great players for that year. I miss that.

The '15 defense was better but got screwed by injuries

 

[102 Pat]

I wonder. Does Seattle's stadium design allow fans to save their energy by not having to be as loud at times because the stadium design helps with the sound? And that's the reason It's always loud there, even when they suck, are losing, and have no chance of making the playoffs, compared to a very open stadium like Foxborough?

I'm sure the open area at one of the endzones doesn't help for noise containment. I can't think of any stadiums that are built like that.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I'm sure the open area at one of the endzones doesn't help for noise containment. I can't think of any stadiums that are built like that.

Add in removing 1,500 rabid fans from the opposite EZ and replacing them with 1,500 wine & quiche consumers FROM THEIR SEATS ELSEWHERE and you have a recipe that kills HFA noise.

 

[The Boston Patriot]

Petey is complicit in what has gone down as the worst play in the history of the NFL, even exceeding the Jets buttfumble and the Colts stupidity. Shaddup Petey, you are trying too hard to cast off the yoke of stupidity and you will be forever shamed because you failed and failed miserably when it counted.

 

[Tom meets Kaepernick]

Ya I really don't know why people would ever reference those games when talking about the '14 defense. Especially the Ravens game, Brady put the team on his f**king back in that one.

You want to talk about games for the '14 defense. Talk about the Denver game when the beat them up so bad in Foxboro they were so scared to come back that they laid down to f**cking Andrew Luck and the dolts who proceeded to come to Foxboro and Andrew Luck played one of the worst games ever by a QB in the playoffs.

It's hilarious how people say "get Brady a defense" and then Belichick brings in some guys and Brady ends up putting the team on his back. Hilarious thing is the '11 defense played better than the '14 defense in the playoffs. Gave up 37 points in the playoffs in '11 and in '14 the defense gave up 62 points in the playoffs.

Real difference in the results of those post-seasons. Edelman caught 3rd and 14 and Welker dropped 2nd and 11.

2011 gave up 51 points, largely because they played a **** Denver team led by Tim ****ing Tebow