For Peter King, Indy is now in jeopardy...

[Bo0MeR]

Keep hope alive

The Colts have a lot more than hope, they got the hardware to go with it

 

[Oswlek]

The Colts have a lot more than hope, they got the hardware to go with it

THe Colts' hardward matters no more than NE's for the 2007 season.

 

[Deus Irae]

The Colts have a lot more than hope, they got the hardware to go with it

That was last season. Congratulations. This season, you've got a lineup that's losing starters to injury, retirement, free agency....

So, again I say, and I don't mean it with any ill intent:


Keep hope alive

 

[Bo0MeR]

That was last season. Congratulations. This season, you've got a lineup that's losing starters to injury, retirement, free agency....

So, again I say, and I don't mean it with any ill intent:


Keep hope alive

No, last time I checked the Colts are the defending and reigning champions until they lose a game in January. Every lineup for the last few seasons has included "losing starters to injury, retirement, free agency" including the one that won the superbowl last year. Incase you forgot a few names like (Simon, Reagor, Stokley, EDGE, Harper, Doss)

There's no reason for the Colts to panic. They will stick to the same gameplan that has kept them on top of the win columns in the NFL for the last 6 seasons, no reason to believe they are slowing down

So with no ill-intent, I say to you

Hope is MORE than alive in Naptown

 

[Crazyeechrispats1]

The Colts also have a dilemma if they fail this season Dungy might hang em up.
I have the perfect replacement in mind though.
Archie Manning!
Hear me out all the coaches do is wash mannings balls who better than his old pop then maybe if the slim chance manning carries them to another superbowl Archie can finally have his ring!
Now only if the giants would wise up and release Eli he could go to the colts and be Peytons backup and ball boy maybe in the future the whole family could have a ring.
But as of now nope no chance in fact call me crazy but i'm betting the Texans beat the colts twice this year.
With a improved defense and a more efficient offense led by Atlanta's biggest mistake they will take on the colts.
There not even on the pats, ravens, chargers, broncos, level this year.
Heres to Peytons first losing season in years 7 and 9 baby

 

[Bo0MeR]

But as of now nope no chance in fact call me crazy but i'm betting the Texans beat the colts twice this year.

That says all I need to know about the rest of the post. Yes I'm going to have to go out on a limb and call you crazy. The texans beat the colts for the first time in their franchises history last year

 

[townes]

The Colts are toast and the real question is whether they will make the play-off's and not the Super Bowl. Other than receiver they have no depth whatsoever, and they are relying on their starters to make it through the season and play-offs healthy to have any chance at all at postseason success. I see no way the Colts defense makes it through this season intact and their starters don't even approach the level of the top defenses in the leage.

They might have a chance if they were in better shape offensively but their depth is really no better there than it is defensively. Only WR is solid, after Manning and Addai they have nothing, and TE is questionable.

 

[Bo0MeR]

The Colts are toast and the real question is whether they will make the play-off's and not the Super Bowl. Other than receiver they have no depth whatsoever, and they are relying on their starters to make it through the season and play-offs healthy to have any chance at all at postseason success. I see no way the Colts defense makes it through this season intact and their starters don't even approach the level of the top defenses in the leage.

They might have a chance if they were in better shape offensively but their depth is really no better there than it is defensively. Only WR is solid, after Manning and Addai they have nothing, and TE is questionable.

Colts Offense isn't deep? Manning Harrison Wayne Addai Clark Gonzales. Who has a better overall offensive lineup in the league?? TE is questionable? You're kidding right Dallas Clark is one of the top TE's in the league.

 

[townes]

Colts Offense isn't deep? Manning Harrison Wayne Addai Clark Gonzales. Who has a better overall offensive lineup in the league?? TE is questionable? You're kidding right Dallas Clark is one of the top TE's in the league.

What I said was that other than receiver they have no depth, and what you named was their receiving corps. They have no depth behind Manning, Addai, and their OL, and they have less than no depth behind their entire defense.


Feel free to make an argument that the Colts have quality depth, it should be interesting.


BTW-I'd take the Patriots offense in a heartbeat over the Colts.

 

[State]

Indy is still formidable, esp. on offense. But now that defense which really stepped it up in the playoffs, led by Booger McFarland, who was immense and nearly unstoppable, is seriously deficient at every phase of the game: DL, LB, and secondary.

The offense will have more pressure to score, like, 48 points a game in order to win. It'll happen maybe half the time.

Peyton Manning is the best QB in the history of the game. Period. But the supporting staff is now questionable at best. There's no way they get by the Patriots or Chargers...or any other first-tier team that comes to the fore.

 

[patpatriot]

Colts Offense isn't deep? Manning Harrison Wayne Addai Clark Gonzales. Who has a better overall offensive lineup in the league?? TE is questionable? You're kidding right Dallas Clark is one of the top TE's in the league.

Moss, Stallworth, Welker, and Watson are just as good the Colts receivers as a group. The Pats also have Gafney and Caldwell who they nearly beat you with last year along with Backups Brady (a superb blocking TE) and TE Thomas who many feel is going to be a star...better depth! The Pats wideouts give up nothing to the Colts anymore especially when you consider that Harrison is aging (35?) and Gonzales is a rookie (when did he get canonized BTW?).

The Pats and Colts Olines are basically close but Ugoh is an unproven rookie and Light was actually went to the Probowl last year and when you analyze the depth thingie again where the Colts have 1 player (Johnson) with any talent and experience and the Pats have 3-4 (O'callahan, Hochstein, and Britt). At running back the Colts have the immortal DeeDee Dorsey to backup addai while the Pats have Faulk, Morris and even Evans in a pinch (plenty of experience there).

So, the Pats and Colts offenses are fuctionaly equivqalent with the pats actually having better depth. I think that we can agree that on the defensive side of the ball the Pats are superior to the Colts both in starters and in depth.

 

[stattry]

What I said was that other than receiver they have no depth, and what you named was their receiving corps. They have no depth behind Manning, Addai, and their OL, and they have less than no depth behind their entire defense.


Feel free to make an argument that the Colts have quality depth, it should be interesting. .

Colts had some serious injury problems last year and they solved some problems in time to make a run (Reagor, Simon, Doss, Stokely, Harper in Playoffs, Clark) Why would you not think they can do it again?

The idea that the Colts have been "injury-free" is ridiculous.

Just like the pats, every year players come out of nowhere because of the system and the coaching. No one knows who it wil be right now. I can't give you specific players that will play an important role for depth but I can tell you that, like the Pats, the Colts have a system in place that develops the players buried on their depth charts so they can contribute

BTW-I'd take the Patriots offense in a heartbeat over the Colts.

Honestly, based on recent history and colts losses/acquisitions, which do you feel is more likely:

A) Colts have some difficulties but will be in the mix this year and ought to be considered contenders

B) Colts are done and will lose their division/not make the playoffs.


I know what most reasonable people who think who are able to put aside hatred of the colts.


I think, given the offseason the Pats have had, Pats fans are right to be optimistic and enthusiastic about the upcoming season. Predictions of the imminent demise of the Colts, however, are WAY, WAY premature.

I know you wish the Colts weren't a thorn in your side; I know you wish they hadn't won 3 in a row vs. the Pats, I know you wish the game this year was in Foxboro after 800 years in a row of the game being in NE (aside from the AFCCG last year in Indy).

That doesn't change the facts.

 

[Oswlek]

Moss, Stallworth, Welker, and Watson are just as good the Colts receivers as a group. The Pats also have Gafney and Caldwell who they nearly beat you with last year along with Backups Brady (a superb blocking TE) and TE Thomas who many feel is going to be a star...better depth! The Pats wideouts give up nothing to the Colts anymore especially when you consider that Harrison is aging (35?) and Gonzales is a rookie (when did he get canonized BTW?).

The Pats and Colts Olines are basically close but Ugoh is an unproven rookie and Light was actually went to the Probowl last year and when you analyze the depth thingie again where the Colts have 1 player (Johnson) with any talent and experience and the Pats have 3-4 (O'callahan, Hochstein, and Britt). At running back the Colts have the immortal DeeDee Dorsey to backup addai while the Pats have Faulk, Morris and even Evans in a pinch (plenty of experience there).

So, the Pats and Colts offenses are fuctionaly equivqalent with the pats actually having better depth. I think that we can agree that on the defensive side of the ball the Pats are superior to the Colts both in starters and in depth.

Neither Moss nor Stallworth have proven they can play an entire season for quite some time. I would say even if they did, they would be hard pressed to top the Harrison/Wayne combo. In addition to that, NE is starting all over again with WRs, which will take some time even with the increase in talent. The only thing that I agree with is that NE has better depth.

 

[patpatriot]

Colts had some serious injury problems last year and they solved some problems in time to make a run (Reagor, Simon, Doss, Stokely, Harper in Playoffs, Clark) Why would you not think they can do it again?

2 things:

1: Once you win the SB your players become more valuable as FAs due to the "halo" effect. Most of the Colts depth took a powder. Once injuries crop up adequate replacements are just going to materialize? Tooth Fairy time. Depth has to be planned and cultivated not discovered under a toadstool.

2. Basically because of the Superbowl "hangover" effect where the team doesn't get a real break after the SB and then they have to face the fact that they have a big bullseye painted on their backs where *every* team will bring thier A game in an attempt to knock off the Champs. Past SB teams have quoted this as a factor in not repeating over and over again

Honestly, based on recent history and colts losses/acquisitions, which do you feel is more likely:

A) Colts have some difficulties but will be in the mix this year and ought to be considered contenders

B) Colts are done and will lose their division/not make the playoffs.
I know what most reasonable people who think who are able to put aside hatred of the colts.

Ahhh... what the Hell...I choose A however...

I know you wish the game this year was in Foxboro after 800 years in a row of the game being in NE (aside from the AFCCG last year in Indy).
That doesn't change the facts.

I think the Pats have a better chance of having a better record than the Colts this year and if they are to meet again it will be in Foxboro where the homefield effect on the refs is likely to be in the Pats favor this time. That is if the Colts make it that far.

 

[spacecrime]

The Colts are not going ANYWHERE anytime soon. Get used to it and buckle your seat belt and this whole thing will go a lot smoother

Go look up what it means to be whistling in the wind.

 

[patpatriot]

Neither Moss nor Stallworth have proven they can play an entire season for quite some time. I would say even if they did, they would be hard pressed to top the Harrison/Wayne combo. In addition to that, NE is starting all over again with WRs, which will take some time even with the increase in talent. The only thing that I agree with is that NE has better depth.

Granted Moss and Stallworth are a bit fragile but how long is Marvin going to dodge the inury bullet? And what about welker vs Gonzales? One player has done it the Pros while the other has only done it in college. It's going to take him some time to adjust as well don't you think? The Colts do have some depth at TE but again the Pats have more...and wait until you osee my Binky...just wait!

8^)

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Overall, over the years, the Colts' offense has proven they can roll up ridiculously high point totals. The Pats have shown themselves to be very good with their own style, a ball control game.

If it's a shootout, all else being equal, the Pats do not have the track record the Colts have.

All else is not, however, equal. I think NE has a very good offense this year. I think the Colts have a better one.

I think the Pats have a superb D this year. I think the Colts have a mediocre one.

I think the Pats will beat the Colts this year, both in regular season and in the playoffs. I think both teams will make it that far.

And I think that everything any of us think is worth precisely ****. That's why they play the games.

Thank God at least the pre-season's starting soon!

PFnV

 

[Fencer]

Coaching, effort, and savvy count for a lot.

If you look at the positions where they've lost personnel, the only one where I'd say you really can't replace pure talent is NT. But even there you may be more able to muddle through with a fairly mediocre guy than you can in a 3-4.

The Colts project to be a formidable challenge to everybody else in the league.

 

[townes]

Colts had some serious injury problems last year and they solved some problems in time to make a run (Reagor, Simon, Doss, Stokely, Harper in Playoffs, Clark) Why would you not think they can do it again?

The idea that the Colts have been "injury-free" is ridiculous.

Just like the pats, every year players come out of nowhere because of the system and the coaching. No one knows who it wil be right now. I can't give you specific players that will play an important role for depth but I can tell you that, like the Pats, the Colts have a system in place that develops the players buried on their depth charts so they can contribute









Honestly, based on recent history and colts losses/acquisitions, which do you feel is more likely:

A) Colts have some difficulties but will be in the mix this year and ought to be considered contenders

B) Colts are done and will lose their division/not make the playoffs.


I know what most reasonable people who think who are able to put aside hatred of the colts.


I think, given the offseason the Pats have had, Pats fans are right to be optimistic and enthusiastic about the upcoming season. Predictions of the imminent demise of the Colts, however, are WAY, WAY premature.

I know you wish the Colts weren't a thorn in your side; I know you wish they hadn't won 3 in a row vs. the Pats, I know you wish the game this year was in Foxboro after 800 years in a row of the game being in NE (aside from the AFCCG last year in Indy).

That doesn't change the facts.

I'm basing my opinion of a long look at the colts roster. They have zero depth at RB, OL, DL, LB, AND DB, and their defense is going to be worse this year thn it was last. Manning and WR's are great, but thats not going to be enough to get them through this season. They better pray Addai stays helthy because they have no back-up to him, and imo their tiny DL is going to get pushed around all year.

Jacksonville will win the South and the colts will watch the play-offs on tv.


BTW I know its only pre-season, but the cowboys just opened up with a 10 minute drive against the colts first team defense.

 

[State]

Dallas Clark?

Plus, Dallas Clark can't block very well. He's more of a possession-type receiver, though a very good one at that. However, I'd take Ben Watson over him any day.