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Chiefs are having a great offseason.
 
No to belittle the player, but just to point out that he's a bit of an outlier, remember that this is the guy who stepped away from the game for a pilgrimage.
 
Smart move. They are finding CTE in college students, who knows about high schoolers.
 
Five concussions over his career, so definitely a smart move. He's 30, so already has had a decent career. Probably best to not risk it any further.

If I remember right he had a pick six in that Pats Chiefs debacle in 14.
 
Smart move on his part. Retires with just about $6M in career earnings, though, so I hope he's able to find a solid career post-NFL.
 
Five concussions over his career, so definitely a smart move. He's 30, so already has had a decent career. Probably best to not risk it any further.

If I remember right he had a pick six in that Pats Chiefs debacle in 14.

Yup. Pretty much my only memory of him as a player. Won't let it color my view of him though, he seems like a good dude.
 
I could never play or let my kids play the game. All you need to do is look at the brain scans of one of these players.


A friend of mines dad is a sports neurologist and does some work with ctes . We were discussing this topic and he showed me the scans. Thing of nightmares.
 
I could never play or let my kids play the game. All you need to do is look at the brain scans of one of these players.


A friend of mines dad is a sports neurologist and does some work with ctes . We were discussing this topic and he showed me the scans. Thing of nightmares.

My wife and I have a little rascal who will turn 2 in a few months. I'm not sure I'd let him play pop warner, to be honest. I played pop warner and then hs football myself, and appreciate all the positives that partaking in sport provides. That said, the same team building qualities can be found in lacrosse, soccer,and hockey (baseball aND basketball as well, though those tend to lean more on the 1v1 aspects compared to the aforementioned).

Luckily we have a few years for to wait and see what continued research finds. However, anyone with half a brain can see which way the winds are blowing. I believe I remember seeing something about hs soccer players and the repeated miniscule trauma inflicted from practicing headers potentially resulting in life long ailments.

It's horrifying, to be honest. This isn't a joint, or bone, or organ that is being affected. All of those can be repaired or rebuilt in today's world of medicine. The one body part we are discussing is the one body part we currently can't heal after being damaged. The one body "part" that makes us individuals, storing memories, responcible for our personalities. Said part is so fragile that most vertebrates keep theirs encased in bone and a fluid chamber.

And here we are with 31 billionaires telling us that football is not responcible for any long term effects of continuous, albeit minor, brain trauma? The sport is built around impacts and collisions, the sheer force of a man running full speed into another man doing the same can result in brain trauma as a result of the assumed sudden deceleration and possible acceleration in the other direction that could be experienced by one party. Helmet to helmet has nothing to do with it. While helmet to helmet contact is "the big one," often the culprit of some of the more devastating injuries witnessed, the constant impacts, and decelerations involved with said impacts, (from what I have gathered) seem to be what leads to cte.

If that is the case, I think this sport may be in trouble.
 
I hope he stays away from aspirin. After all, the side effects are unknown...
 
No to belittle the player, but just to point out that he's a bit of an outlier, remember that this is the guy who stepped away from the game for a pilgrimage.
According to the article a lot of it had to do with his concussion issue then as well unless you are referring to a different time he stepped away
 
According to the article a lot of it had to do with his concussion issue then as well unless you are referring to a different time he stepped away

You might be aware that former Minnesota Vikings safety Husain Abdullah has taken the 2012 season off to connect with Muslims across the county and also make a pilgrimage to Mecca. Abdullah is making the trip with two of his brothers, including former Arizona Cardinals safety Hamza Abdullah. They've already spent 30 days visiting 30 mosques around the country and will head to Mecca in late October. They are hoping to catch on with NFL teams at the end of the season. ESPN's Bob Holtzman told the story Sunday morning on ESPN's "Outside the Lines."

OTL: Husain Abdullah's pilgrimage

Their motivation arrived over a lifetime, and all at once. This past spring, Husain and Hamza felt an urgent need to more fully address the pillars of their Islamic faith, including the most difficult test of all, the Hajj, the pilgrimage to Mecca, an annual concentration of humanity unequaled on the planet.

Muslim brothers sacrifice big NFL paychecks for spiritual journey to Mecca
 
My wife and I have a little rascal who will turn 2 in a few months. I'm not sure I'd let him play pop warner, to be honest. I played pop warner and then hs football myself, and appreciate all the positives that partaking in sport provides. That said, the same team building qualities can be found in lacrosse, soccer,and hockey (baseball aND basketball as well, though those tend to lean more on the 1v1 aspects compared to the aforementioned).

Luckily we have a few years for to wait and see what continued research finds. However, anyone with half a brain can see which way the winds are blowing. I believe I remember seeing something about hs soccer players and the repeated miniscule trauma inflicted from practicing headers potentially resulting in life long ailments.

It's horrifying, to be honest. This isn't a joint, or bone, or organ that is being affected. All of those can be repaired or rebuilt in today's world of medicine. The one body part we are discussing is the one body part we currently can't heal after being damaged. The one body "part" that makes us individuals, storing memories, responcible for our personalities. Said part is so fragile that most vertebrates keep theirs encased in bone and a fluid chamber.

And here we are with 31 billionaires telling us that football is not responcible for any long term effects of continuous, albeit minor, brain trauma? The sport is built around impacts and collisions, the sheer force of a man running full speed into another man doing the same can result in brain trauma as a result of the assumed sudden deceleration and possible acceleration in the other direction that could be experienced by one party. Helmet to helmet has nothing to do with it. While helmet to helmet contact is "the big one," often the culprit of some of the more devastating injuries witnessed, the constant impacts, and decelerations involved with said impacts, (from what I have gathered) seem to be what leads to cte.

If that is the case, I think this sport may be in trouble.

It certainly doesn't make you a bad parent letting your child play football but as you say there are other sports that do not carry the risk of incurring repetitive head trauma. I've played every sport and have experienced more concussions playing them than football.

Doctors now say that children should not play football until they are in their middle teenage years as that is when the brain, skull stop growing & developing.
 
It certainly doesn't make you a bad parent letting your child play football but as you say there are other sports that do not carry the risk of incurring repetitive head trauma. I've played every sport and have experienced more concussions playing them than football.

Doctors now say that children should not play football until they are in their middle teenage years as that is when the brain, skull stop growing & developing.

I need to wait to see further studies until I say that I won't let my future children play football. Luckily, I have to finish grad school and then after that, my girlfriend and I want to travel for a while. So we have a little bit before that happens and a world of research and scientific advances should take place by then. However, it's not looking good. I loved football when I was growing up and would love for any sons I have to play it, but not at the expense of their long term cognitive health.
 
I need to wait to see further studies until I say that I won't let my future children play football. Luckily, I have to finish grad school and then after that, my girlfriend and I want to travel for a while. So we have a little bit before that happens and a world of research and scientific advances should take place by then. However, it's not looking good. I loved football when I was growing up and would love for any sons I have to play it, but not at the expense of their long term cognitive health.

Thats the right approach for now. Youth football programs are much better at teaching kids how to tackle. My nephew plays and while I'm concerned about his health, he loves it and as a parent (or uncle) you just hope he is ok. In the end we really don't know why some people are more susceptible to CTE than others. The problem is that the NFL and the moron owners are still talking like it's a worthy risk to take.

With that said, once they can get PET scans to be 100% accurate in discovering CTE in living humans you just might see a exodus of people giving up football at all levels.

Interesting article below with some fairly new info.

http://www.economist.com/news/scien...s-toward-understanding-impact-concussion-bang
 
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