Foxboro cops: Pats' Chandler Jones sought medical help early Sunday

[Fixit]

They you're rolling your eyes about something other than what I actually posted.

I used to have the exact same perspective of "always" learning from the mistakes of others. In some instances, that is a wise course of actions with things that cause physical harm, the harming of others, addiction etc. That said, the application of such a conservative approach to the entire range of life deprives us of our greatest opportunities to exceed our perceived limitations and broaden our perspectives. In order to become our true selves, we must challenge conventional thought, learn and grow from our failures and soar through our triumphs. Anything less isn't truly living.



For future reference, it is safe for you to assume that when I apply to an important life subject, I have spent considerable time considering it deeply, and from a variety of perspectives. Obviously I am wrong sometimes, but it certainly would never be in ways as dense as the interpretation you came to.

Well, here's where you went wrong:

"That said, the application of such a conservative approach to the entire range of life ... "

No one even implied this. Everyone will agree that we (should) learn from our mistakes, take risks, push ourselves, etc. But you said that not making mistakes and simply being able to learn anyway isn't "living."

 

[DSting]

One of the best ways to treat concussions--cannabis. Many football players use for pain management and concussions.

 

[Galeb]

Well, here's where you went wrong:

"That said, the application of such a conservative approach to the entire range of life ... "

No one even implied this. Everyone will agree that we (should) learn from our mistakes, but you said that not making mistakes and simply being able to learn anyway isn't "living."

You are the one who is mistaken.

"I suspect I am fortunate because most all of my common sense has come without the benefit of experience."

Note the "most all of my common sense". Much of what people consider "common sense" is false, and the lessons learned from taking risks and challenging conventional thought frequently enough transforms our perception of "common sense" in dramatic ways. The wisest people I know almost never use the term "common sense". Anyone who thinks that most of their "common sense" comes from learning from others' mistakes hasn't learned life's greatest lessons, and likely won't if they don't start challenging conventional thought.

 

[Fixit]

You're making a whole lot of assumptions there, particularly about Bob's use of "common sense" and, oh yeah, his life in general.

But, hey, whatever makes you feel didactic.

 

[Galeb]

You're making a whole lot of assumptions there, particularly about Bob's use of "common sense" and, oh yeah, his life in general.

But, hey, whatever makes you feel didactic.

the definition of didactic
Didactic is about the *intent* to teach a moral lesson, not a way that people feel. If you're going to use big words to give the appearance of intelligence, you might want to use them properly, else the appearance is quite the opposite.

Words are far from perfect and assumptions have to be made in communication, i.e. the false assumptions you made about my meaning. Further discussion can reveal when assumptions are false and leads to understanding between parties. That said, the only real assumption I am making is, fittingly, the result of a lesson I learned from challenging conventional thought. *Common sense* is an illusion, and people who challenge conventional thought enough understand this. This means that my only assumption is that someone who uses the term "common sense" in such a context doesn't understand the illusory nature of it.

 

[Fixit]

the definition of didactic
Didactic is about the *intent* to teach a moral lesson, not a way that people feel. If you're going to use big words to give the appearance of intelligence, you might want to use them properly, else the appearance is quite the opposite.

Words are far from perfect and assumptions have to be made in communication, i.e. the false assumptions you made about my meaning. Further discussion can reveal when assumptions are false and leads to understanding between parties. That said, the only real assumption I am making is, fittingly, the result of a lesson I learned from challenging conventional thought. *Common sense* is an illusion, and people who challenge conventional thought enough understand this. This means that my only assumption is that someone who uses the term "common sense" in such a context doesn't understand the illusory nature of the idea of "common sense".

I actually meant to use another word, then changed it without changing the preceding one. Cell phone. But I'm sure you feel awesome now that I've been chastised.

The rest of your post is just more eyeroll-worthy stuff. Just say that you're better than everyone else and be done with it.

Yup, no assumptions about Bob here: "Anyone who thinks that most of their "common sense" comes from learning from others' mistakes hasn't learned life's greatest lessons, and likely won't if they don't start challenging conventional thought."

Poor, unworldly, ignorant Bob. Please teach him. And all of us.

 

[Galeb]

I actually meant to use another word, then changed it without changing the preceding one. Cell phone. But I'm sure you feel awesome now that I've been chastised.

The rest of your post is just more eyeroll-worthy stuff. Just say that you're better than everyone else and be done with it.

Yyo, no assumptions about Bob here: "Anyone who thinks that most of their "common sense" comes from learning from others' mistakeshasn't learned life's greatest lessons, and likely won't if they don't start challenging conventional thought."

Poor, unworldly, ignorant Bob. Please teach him. And all of us.

Although in my youth I did think I was better than some, I no longer hold such an illusion. I am no better than anyone and learn from a wide range of people every day, even children. My intent wasn't to intimidate, it was to challenge a common misconception and share insight that was painfully learned. It's fine for you to disagree, but eye rolling, and assuming I that believe myself superior to anyone, is a poor reaction to the sharing of insight.

The irony in all this is that the person I was responding to was trying to share insight that I previously held, but you simply happened to agree with him. I disagreed with him and, instead of getting intimidated, shared my opinion on the subject. There's not need to be so pissed off. We're all wrong sometimes.

 

[Fixit]

I actually meant to use another word, then changed it without changing the preceding one. Cell phone. But I'm sure you feel awesome now that I've been chastised.

The rest of your post is just more eyeroll-worthy stuff. Just say that you're better than everyone else and be done with it.

Although in my youth I did think I was better than some, I no longer hold such an illusion. I am no better than anyone and learn from a wide range of people every day, even children. My intent wasn't to intimidate, it was to challenge a common misconception and share insight that was painfully learned. It's fine for you to disagree, but eye rolling, and assuming I that believe myself superior to anyone, is a poor reaction to the sharing of insight.

The irony in all this is that the person I was responding to was trying to share insight that I previously held, but you simply happened to agree with him. I disagreed with him and, instead of getting intimidated, shared my opinion on the subject. There's not need to be so pissed off. We're all wrong sometimes.

Way to murder the definition of "irony." The wisest man I ever met once told me that the misuse of words can make one appear unintelligent.

And how, oh how, can you learn from other people? The same wise man told me that one cannot truly learn from others' experiences.

 

[Galeb]

Way to murder the definition of "irony." The wisest man I ever met once told me that the misuse of words can make one appear unintelligent.

Everyone misuses words. What I told you was the misuse of big words to appear intelligent gives the opposite effect. The word irony isn't a big word, nor did I use it incorrectly. The irony was how differently you reacted to his attempt at teaching vs how you reacted to mine. What deepens that irony is that I once held the same belief, and that I was teaching the opposite.
Definition of IRONY

You've reached the point where you're simply trying to insult me instead of discussing the topic at hand. There's no need to be offended or try to offend. I was simply trying to share insight.

 

[Fixit]

Everyone misuses words. What I told you was the misuse of big words to appear intelligent gives the opposite effect. The word irony isn't a big word, nor did I use it incorrectly. The irony was how differently you reacted to his attempt at teaching vs how you reacted to mine. What deepens that irony is that I once held the same belief, and that I was teaching the opposite.
Definition of IRONY.

Yeah, that's not irony. You used it incorrectly. Not that I expect you to admit that. I merely forgot to adjust my sentence.

At no point were you trying to "share insight." You immediately and harshly judged Bob solely by his use of a very common phrase.

 

[Galeb]

Yeah, that's not irony. You used it incorrectly. I merely forgot to change a word in my sentence. Not that I expect you to admit that. I merely forgot to adjust my sentence.

At no point were you trying to "share insight." You immediately and harshly judged Bob solely by his use of a very common phrase.

Harshly judging? That's IRONIC coming from you in this conversation. I identified something I disagreed with that Bob said and tried to convey insight without offending. That's trying to help, not some harsh judgement. It is also IRONIC that Bob, if I'm interpreting him correctly, was trying to share insight as well. The difference in your reactions to the two is IRONIC regardless of how you try to spin the word.

Irony (definition 2 because I wasn't referring to a play on words)"
"situation that is strange or funny because things happen in a way that seems to be the opposite of what you expected"

You disagreed with the insight that I tried to share, and that's fine. Your harsh methods and the anger you feel, IMO, are the wrong way to go about it. IMO, it would be worthwhile to take a few minutes to calm down and reread our conversation. The only one passing harsh judgement here is you.

 

[IllegalContact]

http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/rumored-devices-f150/292394d1408687381t-obamas-passport-thread-just-went-full-******.jpg

 

[Fixit]

Harshly judging? That's IRONIC coming from you in this conversation. I identified something I disagreed with that Bob said and tried to convey insight without offending. That's trying to help, not some harsh judgement. It is also IRONIC that Bob, if I'm interpreting him correctly, was trying to share insight as well. The difference in your reactions to the two is IRONIC regardless of how you try to spin the word.

Irony (definition 2 because I wasn't referring to a play on words)"
"situation that is strange or funny because things happen in a way that seems to be the opposite of what you expected"

You disagreed with the insight that I tried to share, and that's fine. Your harsh methods and the anger you feel, IMO, are the wrong way to go about it. IMO, it would be worthwhile to take a few minutes to calm down and reread our conversation. The only one passing harsh judgement here is you.

Something being unexpected by someone doesn't necessarily mean it's ironic. Stop it.

And I'm not mad, I'm just mocking your position that telling someone they're not actually living is "sharing insight." Maybe my tone isn't carrying all the way up to your lofty perch,so I apologize.

At any rate, this ran its course long ago. Thank you for taking some time out from challenging conventional thought to drop some knowledge.

 

[primetime]

I clearly don't understand the problem. Because Class D substances are controlled, the next question is how he got it.

It boggles my mind that synthetic weed is legal.

There are convenience stores that sell it. DC criminalized sale this summer due to an epidemic of violence which was (overly simplistically, I think) blamed on usage, and raided a bunch of convenience stores.

 

[Fixit]

http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/rumored-devices-f150/292394d1408687381t-obamas-passport-thread-just-went-full-******.jpg

I can't disagree.

 

[primetime]

Oh dear, I didn't read this last page, where people started posting links to the dictionary. That's my favorite form of internet argumentation.

 

[RobertWeathers]

There are convenience stores that sell it. DC criminalized sale this summer due to an epidemic of violence which was (overly simplistically, I think) blamed on usage, and raided a bunch of convenience stores.

Wow. I'm clueless about this. Thanks.

 

[Tony2046]

Big difference taking something to heal you up so you can play (not sure what bolden took but rodney's was hgh), and spice. Jones did an incredibly stupid selfish thing. For what? First chance they get, they got to dump this schlamiel.

Under those standards you'd probably have to cut at least 20% of any roster.

If you applied your standards to the members of this forum you might end up chatting with yourself. That is if you could pass your own criteria.

 

[Fixit]

Oh dear, I didn't read this last page, where people started posting links to the dictionary. That's my favorite form of internet argumentation.

Only one guy.

 

[Galeb]

Oh dear, I didn't read this last page, where people started posting links to the dictionary. That's my favorite form of internet argumentation.

Given the situation, it was entirely appropriate. Read the back and forth.