Garbage Time Injuries

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Calvin Johnson was injured in a 45-10 loss to Kansas City. He was injured late in the game, and the outcome had already been decided with I'm sure over 99% probability.

Of course, this is far from the first time this has happened. Arian Foster tore his achilles late in the game of a blowout loss, as the Texans trailed the Dolphins 44-20 at the time of his injury.

There have been numerous cases of these types of injuries all year.

My question is, why doesn't anyone care or say much when a losing team needlessly puts its star players at risk for injuries late in blowout games, but the media is up in arms over the Patriots having Brady throw passes with a 14 point lead in the fourth? They call Belichick arrogant for doing this, while other coaches do the same thing, with even more lopsided scores.

 

[Bruins29]

Ummm Cause its the Pats.

 

[patchick]

To be fair, there are two sides to garbage time and those teams were losing. Few people fault a coach for not giving up.

(The irony, of course, is that losing a blowout is the one time Belichick DOES pull Brady!)

 

[Sicilian]

To be fair, there are two sides to garbage time and those teams were losing. Few people fault a coach for not giving up.

(The irony, of course, is that losing a blowout is the one time Belichick DOES pull Brady!)

Which emotionally seems backwards (you don't want to give the team the impression you're giving up) but logically makes more sense (if things are going poorly, it's very likely in part because you're not protecting Brady, so get him out of there).

 

[meatface]

To be fair, there are two sides to garbage time and those teams were losing. Few people fault a coach for not giving up.

(The irony, of course, is that losing a blowout is the one time Belichick DOES pull Brady!)

The only time I can think of that happening is in 09 against the saints

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[TheFlyingWedge]

There was a game where Brady got benched with a somewhat healthy lead in the 4th quarter. Brian Hoyer (I think) went in to close out the game. Well.. He promptly threw a pick-six and Belichick yanked out Hoyer and put Brady back in. That's the only time in recent memory I can think of where BB appeared to toying with idea of pulling Brady out of garbage time.

Anyone else remember this game?

 

[VectorPrime]

There was a game where Brady got benched with a somewhat healthy lead in the 4th quarter. Brian Hoyer (I think) went in to close out the game. Well.. He promptly threw a pick-six and Belichick yanked out Hoyer and put Brady back in. That's the only time in recent memory I can think of where BB appeared to toying with idea of pulling Brady out of garbage time.

Anyone else remember this game?

That was in 2007 and it was Cassel who threw the pick 6

 

[supafly]

The only time I can think of that happening is in 09 against the saints

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Last year in week #4 in the loss at KC, too.

 

[memento]

Last year in week #4 in the loss at KC, too.

And it sparked a whole lot of "Brady's done" talk on ESPN

 

[TommyD4207]

There was a game where Brady got benched with a somewhat healthy lead in the 4th quarter. Brian Hoyer (I think) went in to close out the game. Well.. He promptly threw a pick-six and Belichick yanked out Hoyer and put Brady back in. That's the only time in recent memory I can think of where BB appeared to toying with idea of pulling Brady out of garbage time.

Anyone else remember this game?

Of course, it was Miami, and it was a glorious ****kicking.

Brady was pulled, Cassel came in and threw a pick-six. he got pulled, Brady came back in for a series, and by then it was like 49-14 and Gutierrez came in to mop up.

This was 2007, and IIRC nobody was complaining about the 21 points the Dolphins scored in the 4th Quarter in garbage time.

 

[patchick]

The only time I can think of that happening is in 09 against the saints

Last year in week #4 in the loss at KC, too.

In other words, 100% of all Patriots blowouts?

Man, what a lucky thing to be a Pats fan.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Calvin Johnson was injured in a 45-10 loss to Kansas City. He was injured late in the game, and the outcome had already been decided with I'm sure over 99% probability.

Of course, this is far from the first time this has happened. Arian Foster tore his achilles late in the game of a blowout loss, as the Texans trailed the Dolphins 44-20 at the time of his injury.

There have been numerous cases of these types of injuries all year.

My question is, why doesn't anyone care or say much when a losing team needlessly puts its star players at risk for injuries late in blowout games, but the media is up in arms over the Patriots having Brady throw passes with a 14 point lead in the fourth? They call Belichick arrogant for doing this, while other coaches do the same thing, with even more lopsided scores.

Some of these contracts have accelerators based on snaps, statistics and post-season awards. That might be the method to the madness to some of these short-sighted, bonehead decisions.

Certainly needs to be revisited how these are done.

 

[supafly]

In other words, 100% of all Patriots blowouts?

Man, what a lucky thing to be a Pats fan.

Yes, it's very rare to even lose the game, let alone get blown out. I forget what their record is for either winning or losing within one score in the BB/Brady era, but it's amazing. Almost unbelievable.

 

[meatface]

Last year in week #4 in the loss at KC, too.

Oh yeah duh

 

[Kontradiction]

Of course, it was Miami, and it was a glorious ****kicking.

Brady was pulled, Cassel came in and threw a pick-six. he got pulled, Brady came back in for a series, and by then it was like 49-14 and Gutierrez came in to mop up.

This was 2007, and IIRC nobody was complaining about the 21 points the Dolphins scored in the 4th Quarter in garbage time.

Jason Taylor said a few weeks ago on Sirius that he knew the Dolphins had just ****** up after doing that because, instead of rolling over, they kept trying then looked to the sideline after that to see Brady strapping on his helmet.