Tom Brady reaching rare air, like Michael Jordan

[luuked]

I would agree with Felger. Tom seems pretty strident in his faith of this guy but man...its a bad look, IMO.

So you believe the opinion of a clown like Felger over Brady who has had a personal relationship with the guy for multiple years. All of that based on information from some kind of hit piece ?

 

[BobDigital]

Generally I don't like to compare players across sports.

However If you wanna compare Brady to Jordan I would say both in the modern game are the most impact players in their sport of all time.

The 4 most dominant players in their sport are Jordan-NBA, Gretzky-NHL, Brady-NFL and Ruth-MLB. Here is my ranking for the most dominant.

1. Gretzky (4 Cups, 5 finals) - NHL. The stats are mind-blowing and no one comes close.
2. Brady (4 SBs, - 6 finals) - NFL. The consistency of the Pats year after year with basically 3 generations of NFL players
3. Jordan (6 SBs - 6 finals) -NBA. the most clutch player out of the group
4. Rush (7 WS, - 10 finals). MLB. Did it all, but in baseball, one player makes the smalles impact out of the other sports.

Not a bad list. I don't know a ton about baseball but..

1 Hockey - Gretzky was great and the case can certainly be made. Give more Bobby Orr though. The Stanley Cup is hard to win in hockey consistently cause it is so hard for 1 player to carry a team in that sport. Gretzky is #2 behind him IMO

2 Football - Brady. I think Montana has as case too. However this is a QB only argument and I am not grading players within the context of position. With that in mind Brady is the most impactful player in NFL history.

3 Basketball - Russell/Jordan - You really need to call this a tie cause it is impossible to say for sure. Jordan in the modern game was the best. Russel in his era was more dominant (without a ton of rule changes). How much of that was the game needing time to catch up to him and would he have been as dominant in the 80s and 90s? We can guess but can't say. For now I am happy to call it a tie.

This list seems super homerish cause i am naming 3 Boston players but that is purely coincidence.

 

[RobertWeathers]

So you believe the opinion of a clown like Felger over Brady who has had a personal relationship with the guy for multiple years. All of that based on information from some kind of hit piece ?

I respect the trust and relationship Tom has with him and that is a choice Tom is making. Tom feels strongly that AG has helped him with his overall health and well being. Some of the stuff he does seems conventional and with demonstratable results (see Curran's testimony). Some a little unorthadox. I personally believe in some practices of eastern medicine but what Guerrero has done is way beyond that.

With that said, just because TB12 has a relationship with him it doesn't mean I have to blindly accept Guerrero as pure as the driven snow. Do I think he would ever intentionally compromise Tom? No, but there is just too much history with this guy to not consider that he has a little snake oil in him.

This came out yesterday. Gotta be careful with The Mail but a good chunk of whats in here is fact.

Tom Brady's bogus doctor coach claimed Gisele endorsed his products

 

[A Defiant Goose]

In fairness to PM, hes played 3 full seasons more than TB and has had multiple neck surgeries. With that said, age is age.

I'm waiting for the HGH accusations to start flying. I'm dead serious.

Head over to the Gangrene (that's really how it should be spelled considering the cesspool it is) and I'm sure you won't have to search far and wide to find em

 

[RobertWeathers]

Head over to the Gangrene (that's really how it should be spelled considering the cesspool it is) and I'm sure you won't have to search far and wide to find em

My IQ goes down by several points when I go there and I need all the points I can get!

 

[Deus Irae]

The 4 most dominant players in their sport are Jordan-NBA, Gretzky-NHL, Brady-NFL and Ruth-MLB. Here is my ranking for the most dominant.

1. Gretzky (4 Cups, 5 finals) - NHL. The stats are mind-blowing and no one comes close.
2. Brady (4 SBs, - 6 finals) - NFL. The consistency of the Pats year after year with basically 3 generations of NFL players
3. Jordan (6 SBs - 6 finals) -NBA. the most clutch player out of the group
4. Ruth (7 WS, - 10 finals). MLB. Did it all, but in baseball, one player makes the smalles impact out of the other sports.

Orr over Gretzky
Russell over Jordan
Brown over Brady

 

[Oswlek]

I'm waiting for the HGH accusations to start flying. I'm dead serious.

I'm surprised Mehta didn't make a few sly insinuations himself.

 

[363839]

Orr over Gretzky
Russell over Jordan
Brown over Brady

1. If Bruins won a couple more stanley cups, I would agree.
2. Agreed..Russel won 8 straight, didn't he?
3. Who over Brady?

 

[Deus Irae]

1. If Bruins won a couple more stanley cups, I would agree.
2. Agreed..Russel won 8 straight, didn't he?
3. Who over Brady?

The poster was listing the most dominant players, not the winningest. Wins play a part, but they aren't the whole thing. Orr, Gretzky, Howe... although I'd consider Howe's to be a different kind of dominance.

And Jim Brown over Brady

 

[RobertWeathers]

1. If Bruins won a couple more stanley cups, I would agree.
2. Agreed..Russel won 8 straight, didn't he?
3. Who over Brady?

The Orr > Gretzky debate is like Pedro over Clemens. Both great players but if you had a choice between the two in their absolute primes......the kid from Parry Sound has to get the nod.

Full Disclosure: I have a 24X48 of Bobby in mid-air behind my wet-bar

Russell > Jordan- Jordan is Elgin Baylor. Put a Bill Russell in his prime in 1990s with a solid supporting cast and MJ is not winning 6 titles....He just isn't.

That would be the greatest lacrosse player in history. Otherwise known as Jim Brown.

 

[SalemPats]

Orr over Gretzky
Russell over Jordan
Brown over Brady

I love Bobby and I played hockey (as a defenseman) at a very high level and although it's hard to compare the two, but no one comes close to Gretzky's hockey IQ.

 

[1960Pats]

Except Brady wasn't a dbag and a terrible teammate. Also tired of hearing how MJ is far and away the GOAT because Nike said so. Disrespectful to Wilt, Russell, and Kareem who also have great arguments for GOAT status.

There is no player that ever played the game of basketball who is in the same discussion as Russell. Not Wilt, not MJ and not Kareem. They could hold his jock though.

 

[1960Pats]

The 4 most dominant players in their sport are Jordan-NBA, Gretzky-NHL, Brady-NFL and Ruth-MLB. Here is my ranking for the most dominant.

1. Gretzky (4 Cups, 5 finals) - NHL. The stats are mind-blowing and no one comes close.
2. Brady (4 SBs, - 6 finals) - NFL. The consistency of the Pats year after year with basically 3 generations of NFL players
3. Jordan (6 SBs - 6 finals) -NBA. the most clutch player out of the group
4. Ruth (7 WS, - 10 finals). MLB. Did it all, but in baseball, one player makes the smalles impact out of the other sports.

Any list of the greatest players that doesn't include Bill Russell can't be taken seriously.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I love Bobby and I played hockey (as a defenseman) at a very high level and although it's hard to compare the two, but no one comes close to Gretzky's hockey IQ.

To say that Howe, Orr or Lemeuix is not 99's hockey IQ level is crazy talk.

 

[SalemPats]

To say that Howe, Orr or Lemeuix is not 99's hockey IQ level is crazy talk.

Bobby Orr is incredible, i would say him and Coffey are the best pure skaters of all time. Howe did it all from toughness and scoring, but what Gretzky did was ridiculous, holding over 50 records, more assists than anyone has points, the most goals of all time as well.

I'm sure in 30 years people will say Brady, Manning, Rodgers all have a football IQ of 99, but we all know Brady is the best

 

[SalemPats]

There is no player that ever played the game of basketball who is in the same discussion as Russell. Not Wilt, not MJ and not Kareem. They could hold his jock though.

I love Bill Russell, but i take Bird over him

 

[RobertWeathers]

Bobby Orr is incredible, i would say him and Coffey are the best pure skaters of all time. Howe did it all from toughness and scoring, but what Gretzky did was ridiculous, holding over 50 records, more assists than anyone has points, the most goals of all time as well.

I'm sure in 30 years people will say Brady, Manning, Rodgers all have a football IQ of 99, but we all know Brady is the best

I'd go even farther to say that Coffey was a better skater than Wayne. Skated with so much force and power.

Fair point on Howe. With that said, his style of play was highly intelligent but in a different way.

Keep in mind there was a little bit more scoring in the 80s as opposed to the 70s. With that said 99 would still have put up 2+ points a game.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I love Bill Russell, but i take Bird over him

Love them both like my children but not sure about that one.

 

[Deus Irae]

I love Bill Russell, but i take Bird over him

Russell
Chamberlain






Everyone/anyone else.


Larry's my favorite NBA player of all time, but we're talking dominance here. As great as Larry was, one can look to Magic and Jordan in Bird's class, both in terms of ability and winning.

Nobody can match Wilt for individual ability, and nobody can match Russell for team ability and winning.

 

[sb1]

From Mehta , of all people:

The same writer that tweeted this...hmmm