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How do you think BB is as a personnel guy? What are his strengths and weaknesses, his good moves and his bad ones? Please describe and explain your position. You can focus on whatever time interval or period that you want.
And Meriweather, and I think Casillas.interesting topic, given that it's Thursday night and I am watching the Giants on Thursday Night Football. They have Vareen at running back and Fells at tight end. Both are guys that Bill let walk away. Seems you can't fault him, they are good players but not spectacular.
It's simple. He has among the lowest, or no 1st round picks. Yet he manages to destroy the league on average wins and playoffs.
Where would redrafts of Gronk and Collins land? Where his risks fail, he plugs in.
interesting topic, given that it's Thursday night and I am watching the Giants on Thursday Night Football. They have Vareen at running back and Fells at tight end. Both are guys that Bill let walk away. Seems you can't fault him, they are good players but not spectacular.
BB the GM has never put the Pats in cap jail and pretty much always hit on his #1 picks.
He also did a great job on low round picks.
Going by record, titles and AV he is the GoAT GM in NFL history.
The only question is....did BB the coach cover for BB the GM's screw ups?
Did BB the GM- who picked a GoAT QB cover for BB the HC?
Can't really seperate the two.
interesting topic, given that it's Thursday night and I am watching the Giants on Thursday Night Football. They have Vareen at running back and Fells at tight end. Both are guys that Bill let walk away. Seems you can't fault him, they are good players but not spectacular.
Yep. Even though their schedule was a cupcake, 11-5 is 11-5.Actually, as horrible as 2008 was when Brady went down, it did provide a season's worth of evidence that BB the GM and BB the HC worked well together, even without the GOAT QB.
The QB who led us to that surprising 11-win season was drafted in the 7th round after not starting in college. We're even scouting back-up college QBs. And while BB the GM spent a 3rd on O'Connell, BB the HC gave the job to the guy who deserved it, even if he was a 7th-round college backup.
That team was led by Welker and Moss on offense, two steals via trade (we're talking personnel skills, not just drafting luck).
That 2008 draft may also have been a typical BB draft, two captains and Pro Bowlers in Mayo and Slater, nailed the 1st round pick, a gamble on talent that fell due to injuries (Wheatley), a pick we hoped we would never use (3rd-round QB Kevin O'Connell), some guys who got outperformed by later picks like Wheatley and Crable, and UDFAs playing major roles like Guyton and Lawfirm.
The D was about to be re-built with Mayo the first block, while this would be the last season in New England for Bruschi, Vrabel, Rodney, and Seymour. We pulled Seau out of retirement for a few games. And holy ****, were there a lot of JAGs on that team. Pierre Woods? Mike Wright? Lewis Sanders even started a few games???
Yet by the end of the year, that team finished in the top 10 in yards and points on offense and defense.
It wasn't all perfect obviously. Deltha O'Neal was involved. Adalius was still contributing, but would never become what he should have. I still have nightmares of trying to watch Hobbs. But that was a pretty solid team despite missing the GOAT QB.
We can debate how much credit goes to BB the GM vs. BB the HC, but considering how the Colts crumbled without Manning and the Packers without Rodgers in 2013 (2-5-1 until Rodgers came back), that 11-5 season without Brady is absolutely remarkable.
Yep. Even though their schedule was a cupcake, 11-5 is 11-5.