The "Brady did a little bit wrong" crowd

[Fencer]

All avoidable if you didn't deny saying what you said.

Another falsehood from you, as I denied nothing -- at least nothing true -- except in your overheated imagination.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

I think there's a point where grievances, among posters, needs to be taken offline via PM. We past that point a couple of pages ago.

As for the topic of Brady lying, If you are trying to call everyone a liar on some level, then sure we can agree to that (little white lies...).

It'd be like everyone is a criminal because they've gone over the speed limit. I think the term liar and the topic of defamegate should be covered under, did TB lie under oath. if so, what specific instance are you calling out.

 

[Fencer]

I think the term liar and the topic of defamegate should be covered under, did TB lie under oath.

Well, if that's the operative definition, I have no interest in discussing it. I've neither checked nor memorized exactly which topics were or weren't covered in what amount of detail at the June hearing.

I have a much better sense of which topics have been covered in the totality of the Wells Report and/or the first hearing and/or the second hearing and/or Brady's Facebook post and/or in statements made by Yee that Brady clearly would support.

 

[Fencer]

I think there's a point where grievances, among posters, needs to be taken offline via PM.

I don't know why Andy needed to start attacking me in the first place, and certainly not why my Alerts filled up with one attack post from him after another.

 

[Ring 6]

I don't know why Andy needed to start attacking me in the first place, and certainly not why my Alerts filled up with one attack post from him after another.

I didn't attack you in any way.
I asked if you felt Brady was lying. You said yes. I disagreed, you called me names, I repsonded to your childish attacks.

 

[RunAmok]

I found a report regarding the gauges yesterday that stated that they are not as reliable as they were made out to be. I then looked in the Well's report which basically argues repeatability but it does show that a new gauge can read anywhere from 12.6 to 13.2. The Wells report shows that out 50 gauges they tested in a controlled environment set to 13 psi that only 8 gauges read 13 psi while 22 gauges read below 13 psi. In short, it is a lot more possible than I had previously thought that both the Colts and the Patriots footballs were set with gauges out of Calibration.

If the pressure of a football was set to 12.5 while it was still warm it would have deflated to 12.2 or less when being tested in the ref locker room.

OR if both the Patriots and Colts gauges were out of Calibration then they would have been set incorrectly to begin with.

Anyways Walts usage of the logo gauge is still a strong possibility in my mind.

The fact that the NFL is putting so much faith in these beatup, $20 pressure gauges is amazing. Also, the Wells report has no problem claiming that the refs were passing the gauges back and forth when the measurements don't meet their narrative. But when the same scenario arises, both Pats and logo gauge were at the same rather inaccurate calibration, they completely discount that as a possibility.

 

[IcyPatriot]

 

[Fencer]

I didn't attack you in any way.
I asked if you felt Brady was lying. You said yes. I disagreed, you called me names, I repsonded to your childish attacks.

If that's your current story, then you'd better go edit the posts in which, for example, you called me a "liar".

Beyond that, I'm not going to argue with you about whether a long string of negative ratings, aggressive misquotes and so on do or don't constitute further personal attacks.

 

[Ring 6]

If that's your story, you'd better go edit the posts in which, for example, you called me a "liar".

Beyond that, I'm not going to argue with you about whether a long string of negative ratings, aggressive misquotes and so on do or don't constitute further personal attacks.

Nothing to edit. You said Brady was lying, then said you didn't. That is a lie.

I gave no ratings to you in this thread that I recall (If i did is was no more than 1 or 2)
I never once misquoted you, in fact I typically copied in your own words (which you also complained about). So, no there is no personal attack. I think your opinion is horribly wrong. That is not a personal attack, that is a strenuous disagreement with what you say.
Below are examples of personal attacks.
You will note that while discussing a football topic on a message board, you decided to draw personal insults and attacks, I assume because you had no legitimate argument to make. It really is embarrassing that you would stoop to such a level. I do not know if you are a child, or you have children, but if its the later, how would you feel about them reading this thread?
Certainly this wouldn't be the way you would teach them to communicate with someone who disagrees with their opinion.

Just a guess.

Your posts aren't ALWAYS as brainlessly obnoxious as they've been in this thread.

Of course I said yes. Tom Brady has been the starting QB of the New England Patriots since 2001. Therefore, he has been under orders to lie since at least 2001.

As for you calling me a liar -- you're a lousy excuse for a brainlessly dishonest imitation of a human being. Please go crawl back into your sewer.

I wasn't in the way that scum-sucking moronic liar Andy is trying to spin it via his diseased keyboard.

However, technically, I believe everybody who is relentlessly "on message" lies, and I certainly believe BB's Patriots are relentlessly on message.

No, I didn't, because that has a different connotation from what I said, you putridly dishonest clown.

 

[Fencer]

Nothing to edit. You said Brady was lying, then said you didn't. That is a lie.

I gave no ratings to you in this thread that I recall (If i did is was no more than 1 or 2)
I never once misquoted you, in fact I typically copied in your own words (which you also complained about). So, no there is no personal attack. I think your opinion is horribly wrong. That is not a personal attack, that is a strenuous disagreement with what you say.
Below are examples of personal attacks.
You will note that while discussing a football topic on a message board, you decided to draw personal insults and attacks, I assume because you had no legitimate argument to make. It really is embarrassing that you would stoop to such a level. I do not know if you are a child, or you have children, but if its the later, how would you feel about them reading this thread?
Certainly this wouldn't be the way you would teach them to communicate with someone who disagrees with their opinion.

My bad. According to my Alerts, you've quoted me in this thread approximately 27 times, but there aren't any ratings. I regret the error.

As to my family -- my stepdaughter has a sense of humor, as well as a penchant for reasoned argument, and an appreciation for language perhaps more refined than my own. (I do a little better than she does in our native tongue, but she's my superior in 6-8 other languages.) But I'd have no concerns if she were to see this thread, or if my infant grandson were to some day.