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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.i think it all depends. Could be a tough position to gauge because we don't exactly know what type of scheme the Patriots will run this year now. Last year, the Patriots played a ton of man because of Revis and Browner, now, it looks more likely they move back to a cover 1 or 2, maybe cover 3.
Is it fair to say, that a good College Press CB - can also play - good in zone coverage if given a Training Camp?
I ask the question because I'd like us to draft Press CBs even if we play mostly zone this year. That way, as the CBs develop, we can switch back to press coverage. However, I'm not sure if I've got the logic correct.
A second Byron Jones video from Draft Breakdown. Love his length and physicality and he's in the backpocket of his receiver on almost every play. Add in his athleticism which I think is almost a pre-requisite for an early Patriots pick and Jones is a borderline first round grade for me and was, even before we lost Revis. I think he's got some really good upside.
Current CB rankings from NFL Draftscout:
13. Trae Waynes - Michigan St. - 6' 0 1/8" 186#. 4.31 40.
27. Kevin Johnson - Wake Forest - 6' 0 1/4" 188#. 4.52 40, 41" VJ, 6.79 3C, 3.88 SS.
29. Marcus Peters - Washington - 5' 11 1/2" 197#.
34. Quinten Rollins - Miami (Ohio) - 5' 11" 195#.
40. PJ Williams - Florida St. 6' 0" 194#. 40" VJ.
51. Jalen Collins - LSU - 6' 1 1/2" 203#. 32 1/8" arms, 4.48 40, 6.77 3C.
55. Byron Jones - UConn - 6' 0 1/2" 199#. 32" arms. 45" VJ, 12'3" BJ, like 4.3+ 40, 6.78 3C, 3.94 SS.
I think there's a good chance Collins and Jones are off the board by 32.
I don't think they're doing a good job on their rankings. Jalen Collins will go before Kevin Johnson. I'd put him second. We won't have a shot at Waynes or Jalen Collins. Ronald Darby has shot up on most sites and is ahead of PJ Williams. That 3d corner will probably come down to him, Peters with a chance for Byron Jones if he runs well at his pro day. Peters is risky because of character issues. Thrown off team for choking his position coach. Of course, I can't say I haven't wanted to do that to some of our position coaches at times Ronald Darby is 5'11" 193lb and ran a 4.38 at the combine. 41.5 VERT, 6.94 in 3-cone. I think his forty will get him drafted 3rd. We will have to choose from; Peters, Jones and Kevin Johnson.
I agree that their rankings are off. Peters, Jones and Collins are the 3 guys who interest me the most right now.
ESPN's Kevin Weidl writes that Wake Forest CB Kevin Johnson "has the cleanest pure movement skills of any cornerback in the class."
"He is loose in the hips and shows excellent flexibility in his lower half that provides him with quality mirror capabilities in man coverage," Weidl wrote. "In addition, Johnson displays strong field awareness, recognizing route concepts, and flashes the anticipation skills to manufacture big plays. At 6-foot and 188 pounds, he has a lean frame and needs to continue to add bulk. However, he is willing to step up in run support, and plays with the type of confident edge you like to see at the position." The analyst believes Johnson will appeal the Saints at No. 31. Picking in the same range, New England is sure to have interest.
Spent my friday night watching more CB film. I think it might actually be bordering on obsession at this point. Anyways, here are some more tidbits from my viewing.
1. The more I watch Marcus Peters, the more I want him. Great instincts, great size, scheme diverse. Off field issues seem to be from a competitive nature and seem to be resolved between the 2 parties. Was hoping he would fall because of it, but I don't see it. Would be willing to do a small trade up for him.
2. I keep finding myself wanting to move Eric Rowe up my boards. I had assumed he would go back to safety in the NFL, but he played well at CB his senior year and his combine shows he has the speed and movement skills to play there. I like the idea of position flexibility.
3. I watched a little more Byron Jones. He is stiff when he turns, but he has a nice low backpedal and if the patriots do go to a zone based scheme, I think he would be good in it. I don't think his freak athleticism translates to the field, so I am pumping the brakes a little. Would feel more comfortable getting him at the end of round 2 rather than having to trade up to get him.
4. I just cannot get on board with PJ Williams as a first round pick. I think he struggles to turn and run with guys and I don't see him turn to locate the ball very well.
Just my 2 cents this morning.
Daniel Jeremiah had a section in his latest podcast (Move The Sticks, ep 11) about what BB looks for in defensive backs. This comes from a 2004 talk he attended by a scout that had worked with Belichick and Saban. Jeremiah took notes and these are some of the requirements for both CBs and Safeties.
CB
- Defending the pass is the lifeline of a corners game.
- A good CB will always be within an arms length of the receiver
- Has to have the confidence to play on an island
- Cannot go into 'the tank'
- All good corners are selfish and ****y. "Being a Turd" is not always a bad thing.
- There are no humble corners
- Has to have the right outlook on EVERY snap. Cannot get bored. Four plays will determine the outcome of a game.
- Has to have excellent athletic ability and instincts.
- Must have good ball skills downfield. Must be able to locate the ball downfield
- Should be a solid tackler. Gets guys on the ground.
- Plays physical with the wideout. Don't let the wideout get comfortable.
- Small corners with exceptional skills can still play in the NFL. Small corners with only good ball skills get beat.
- A good barometer for a corner is how often does he get his hands on the ball. Not just INTs but break ups too.
- Third corners are starters (bear in mind this was 2004).
- Dropped interceptions are killers.
something to bear in mind when scouting cornerbacks: