My Sleeper for #28

[VrabelMayeWin]

Before you blast me, Belichick has "reached" for players he liked before in the first round, usually to good effect. Mankins and Watson were taken a little higher than expected and even Seymour was thought of as a little but of an overdraft an #6 (although he was a top half of the first round pick going in).

Anyway. I'm not hoping for this, I want a Safety and CB in the first round to rebuild the athleticism in the secondary with Harrison old, Wilson and Gay both UFA in a year and Samuel either a UFA or an almost $10M Franchise player.

With no further ado, my sleeper for #28 is Tenessee DL Justin Harrell.

OUCH says everyone.

His torn biceps is looking healed which is the only thing keeping him from being a late first to mid second pick. He can legitimitely play DE or NT in a 3-4. He can be dominant against the run and has some explosivness as a pass rusher although the numbers don't show it. He's happy to do the dirty work and loves playing football as evidenced by trying to play through an injury that most players wouldn't have. For those who want Carriker, this is the DL who fits our defense who we can actually get.

 

[mcbee]

Before you blast me, Belichick has "reached" for players he liked before in the first round, usually to good effect. Mankins and Watson were taken a little higher than expected and even Seymour was thought of as a little but of an overdraft an #6 (although he was a top half of the first round pick going in).

Anyway. I'm not hoping for this, I want a Safety and CB in the first round to rebuild the athleticism in the secondary with Harrison old, Wilson and Gay both UFA in a year and Samuel either a UFA or an almost $10M Franchise player.

With no further ado, my sleeper for #28 is Tenessee DL Justin Harrell.

OUCH says everyone.

His torn biceps is looking healed which is the only thing keeping him from being a late first to mid second pick. He can legitimitely play DE or NT in a 3-4. He can be dominant against the run and has some explosivness as a pass rusher although the numbers don't show it. He's happy to do the dirty work and loves playing football as evidenced by trying to play through an injury that most players wouldn't have. For those who want Carriker, this is the DL who fits our defense who we can actually get.

That's a 3-fer.

A reach for a guy who is maybe 3 rounds lower. He's injured. He's going into a position where there are already a ton of guys and no immeditate need.

But he's "happy to do the dirty work" and has "some explosiveness"! OK, that settles it, let's draft him!

 

[PATSNUTme]

It would not shock me. And if they do, I would accept it becasue I have faith in their judgement.

However, if we are going to do something like that, we should trade up with both #1's and grab Willis, if we can.

 

[Clonamery]

.....we should trade up with both #1's and grab Willis, if we can.

"It would not shock me. And if they do, I would accept it becasue(sic) I have faith in their judgement."

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

A reach for a guy who is maybe 3 rounds lower. He's injured. He's going into a position where there are already a ton of guys and no immeditate need.

I told you no-one would like it . . . although Carriker gets lots of love around here.

On the injury, I'm under the impression that he's healthy now or will be by training camp, I'm fairly sure that's what Mayock said last night.

3 rounds lower ? Absolutely not. If we still had our #2 I would have been very surprised had he made it there. VERY surprised.

No immediate need ? Maybe not but he'd give us our most complete DE to rotate with Seymour and Warren and a more legit NT than Wright.

 

[dryheat44]

I don't even think that it's unlikely that Harrell go at #28. He could be gone before #28.

 

[Clonamery]

I don't even think that it's unlikely that Harrell go at #28. He could be gone before #28.

There are plent of talking head 'experts' saying that....

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

I don't even think that it's unlikely that Harrell go at #28. He could be gone before #28.

Damn talk about having my thunder stolen . . . he's not gotten much mention around here so I still say he's a sleeper

 

[patfanken]

They did a piece on him on the "Path to the Draft" on the NFL network. They mentioned he did 31 reps on the bench press, so I doubt the biceps is a problem any longer. Given who we still have on the roster and the glaring needs we have at LB and in the secondary, one would be hard pressed to get excited about this pick

HOWEVER, I have always felt that BB conciders the DL to be the most difficult area to find QUALITY DLmen, and if he has him rated that high, I can surely see him not passing him by. I believe a potentially great DLman is NEVER to be passed by in the Beoli draft ethos

Personally I wouldn't be thrilled, but I certainly would understand.

BTW- the NFL network people thought he could very well move into the bottom of the first round, because of the year he had in 2005 and the fact the DT class this year is very thin at the top end, with only Branch and Okoye rating first round status. They mentioned usually there are 4-5 DTs rated that high.

 

[Seneschal2]

Damn talk about having my thunder stolen . . . he's not gotten much mention around here so I still say he's a sleeper

Just consider him now awaken.

I think he'd fall into the category of 'classic BB pick'. If a player is considered a potential first rounder, but gets injured, is now healed, and fits the Pats -- why wouldn't BB consider him?

I'll be the first to say that BelichickFan deserves full credit for this very late riser. Good choice.

 

[mavfan2390]

He can legitimitely play DE or NT in a 3-4

Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a 298 pound athlete playing nose in the 3-4 alignment?

 

[dryheat44]

Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a 298 pound athlete playing nose in the 3-4 alignment?

Jarvis Green, Mike Wright, Dan Klecko, Ty Warren, Rick Lyle,

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a 298 pound athlete playing nose in the 3-4 alignment?

Seymour is barely bigger and he was mostly a NT his rookie year.l 300 pounds isn't too small if you play with good technique. Especially for a guy who, barring injury, would be just a rotation guy to help keep Wilfork fresh.

 

[sebman2112]

Before you blast me, Belichick has "reached" for players he liked before in the first round, usually to good effect. Mankins and Watson were taken a little higher than expected and even Seymour was thought of as a little but of an overdraft an #6 (although he was a top half of the first round pick going in).

Anyway. I'm not hoping for this, I want a Safety and CB in the first round to rebuild the athleticism in the secondary with Harrison old, Wilson and Gay both UFA in a year and Samuel either a UFA or an almost $10M Franchise player.

With no further ado, my sleeper for #28 is Tenessee DL Justin Harrell.

OUCH says everyone.

His torn biceps is looking healed which is the only thing keeping him from being a late first to mid second pick. He can legitimitely play DE or NT in a 3-4. He can be dominant against the run and has some explosivness as a pass rusher although the numbers don't show it. He's happy to do the dirty work and loves playing football as evidenced by trying to play through an injury that most players wouldn't have. For those who want Carriker, this is the DL who fits our defense who we can actually get.

I like him a lot, and just put him in a list of prospects to watch over at ESPN. I don't think he's a sleeper at 28, though. It seems more than two of us on here have talked about him as a prospect for NE. We've been talking about him over on ESPN the past two months. I think he'd be a top 15 pick if not for the bicep injury.

 

[DW Toys]

Just consider him now awaken.

I think he'd fall into the category of 'classic BB pick'. If a player is considered a potential first rounder, but gets injured, is now healed, and fits the Pats -- why wouldn't BB consider him?

I'll be the first to say that BelichickFan deserves full credit for this very late riser. Good choice.

Cousins,
Lets start a big thread and demand that BB and SP draft this guy with one of our first. Say he's the next Reggie White. Say we know we can sign him for Britt money for 6 years. Tell them he will be better than Seymour by the end of camp. Tell them he is starting a ministry for wayward NFL players. Tell them he is actually willing to break down all the film of each game immediately after the gun. Even before taking a shower!
THEN and only then will we be convinced that The Godfather and Tonto Pioli DON'T draft this guy!

Speaking of a NFL ministry for wayward NFL players, I am thinking of starting a company that offers this service to NFL teams. Every NFL player with thug and other "issues" is assigned a proctor by Goodells office. We are looking for a company name and ask for your help.....comments on names? The name of the program we thought of, was WHAATMF (Whiteguy Helper Angels Assisting Thugs to be Model Foofball guys).

Each player mandated to the program is assigned one dorky, uncool, uncoordinated, fat (optional), whiteguy dude that will serve as his "Posse" for the required period of one year. This dorky white guy is the only "family" the player can hang with! The "Playa" can choose from our amble selection of Italians, Irish, Polish, Armenian, Scandinavian (a big hit down back in Da Hood) and we will have a Hebrew upgrade available as well. He will be allowed no contact with his other former "Playas" or I believe the term is "Homies" (correct me if I am wrong).

To qualify as a proctor, you must be embarrassing to be seen with in public, you must listen to Barry Manilow or Abba from an approved list of "tunes" made up by Roger Goodell. You must drive a Chevy Cavalier or a Ford Taurus with completely stock "14's" or again Goodell supplies the list of approved "rides". These cars must NOT be bulletproof, nor have been seen in any episode of "Whips" or "Pimp my ride" (may be excluded if they were the "before" edition). AM radios are preferred. Only one single dash speaker is allowed. Wheel covers are forbidden to spin in any way.

We will have each proctor set limits on the player that is their new "boy" (please note so I am not in trouble like Imus, This refers to a friendly associate or bosom buddy in a specific cool vernacular. It is not race specific).

As far as all "Tats", for the period of one year they must be washable to be removed. They will be allowed to be applied with spit as an option. None must refer to money "hurray" or your mother, or dead "boy" you use to roll with that has since been wasted.

Guns shall be limited to Super Squirters only. NO "Automatic" Super Squirters SHALL BE ACCEPTABLE.

Secret or cool handshakes, chest thumps, hand pumps or sky kisses will be strictly choreographed by your selected dorky, uncool guy who is more than likely, uncoordinated.

As far as language is concerned, the term "Was Up" or near may not be used nor can the term of a sexual involvement with a family member be used as adjective on, before or after each sentence or description of a person or thing, even if it meant as an endearment.

Clubs for entertainment shall be chosen strictly by the proctor and yes, Chucky Cheese is on the approved list.

Jewelery is verboden unless it is plastic or purchased at the Disney Store.

"Dreds" shall only be accepted if your Dorky White Dude "DWD" proctor (please DWD, it is meant at no offense) can grow the exact length and style to match that of the player (there will be NO exchanges if your proctor is hair folicle challenged!). Goodell and his G-Youth will check these at various times, unannounced.....ah, ha!

The original "Wissenator" shall only be allowed to be used for the said Players' own Pit Bulls or Rottweilers to check for pregnancy for some pups. Speaking of peeing, your DWD proctor must enter the rest room with you every time you "tinkle" so no funny stuff goes on. We hope that every NFL candidate does not have "stage fright".

We believe that at the end of a year, said NFL player will no longer be cool, his rags (suits) will be constructed only of polyester and less than $100 off the rack, he will NOT be interested in an Escalade for his ride of choice, his "Dates" (careful) will actually not show off their undergarments and his casual clothing will be held up at his waste.....with a belt! His "crib" will not longer have "Cristal" in the refrigerator or any silk sheets, plus his mother will be allowed access and to stay as long as she wants. A BONG will only be what his door bell sounds like. The only "Strip" stuff to be concerned with is to Sit down with your dorky DWD "boy" and watch the TV episodes of Norm Abrams on PBS "This Old House", refinishing the floors on that 1850 colonial in Cambridge. No bags of money are required. Very inexpensive beer and bargain pretzels set the tone here. Bruins reruns are a good alternate choice of visual entertainment, especially old Bobby Orr games.

I am volunteering my services for the Pacman. "We can do him up"-Our company motto. No cool guy will ever want to roll with this dude again. Wonder if he will miss the gun play?

Finally DUI will mean DO UNDERSTAND IT, now. I might begin to take some responsibility.

Do we have any readers from the Cincinnati area who would consider the job? Many openings!
DW Toys

 

[danny88]

I told you no-one would like it . . . although Carriker gets lots of love around here.

On the injury, I'm under the impression that he's healthy now or will be by training camp, I'm fairly sure that's what Mayock said last night.

3 rounds lower ? Absolutely not. If we still had our #2 I would have been very surprised had he made it there. VERY surprised.

No immediate need ? Maybe not but he'd give us our most complete DE to rotate with Seymour and Warren and a more legit NT than Wright.

A bicep tear is not a big deal in most cases. As long as the muscle is reattached after the accident happens other then a slight cosmetic change, he will be fine.

That said I hope we dont take him : )

 

[VJCPatriot]

Before you blast me, Belichick has "reached" for players he liked before in the first round, usually to good effect. Mankins and Watson were taken a little higher than expected and even Seymour was thought of as a little but of an overdraft an #6 (although he was a top half of the first round pick going in).

Anyway. I'm not hoping for this, I want a Safety and CB in the first round to rebuild the athleticism in the secondary with Harrison old, Wilson and Gay both UFA in a year and Samuel either a UFA or an almost $10M Franchise player.

With no further ado, my sleeper for #28 is Tenessee DL Justin Harrell.

OUCH says everyone.

His torn biceps is looking healed which is the only thing keeping him from being a late first to mid second pick. He can legitimitely play DE or NT in a 3-4. He can be dominant against the run and has some explosivness as a pass rusher although the numbers don't show it. He's happy to do the dirty work and loves playing football as evidenced by trying to play through an injury that most players wouldn't have. For those who want Carriker, this is the DL who fits our defense who we can actually get.

Harrell isn't really a reach at 28. A lot of mocks have him going to the Colts at #32. I like Carriker better obviously but Harrell should be available and Carriker won't.
Well the other difference between Carriker and Harrell, besides the talent, is that Carriker can also get after the QB which makes him nasty lining up on rushing downs for us at DE. (16.5 sacks over the last 2 seasons at Nebraska). Carriker also has that rare body size/type 6-6 296 that makes him very valuable in the Pats defense. When he's not taking the QB down he can bat down lots of passes.
That adds an extra dimension to our defense, whereas Harrell comes in... and becomes Wilfork's backup. Period.

Harrell
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/dt/justinharrell.html

Carriker
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2007/carriker_adam
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?Prospect_ID=1173

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

whereas Harrell comes in... and becomes Wilfork's backup. Period.

Harrell would be our most complete DE backup/rotation guy too. Maybe not a pure skill like Green has but the most complete guy to go in and play the entire role.

 

[everlong]

However, if we are going to do something like that, we should trade up with both #1's and grab Willis, if we can.

You have more man-love for Willis than Nem has man-hate for Hobbs and that's saying something.