43 yard XP? Competition committee is discussing it.

[Sicilian]

The more I'm thinking about this, the more I'm leaning against it. I don't think it will ruin anything. Like any change it's something that I would get used to over time, and I DO like the idea of the extra point not being an automatic (which I don't believe it was intended to be).

But the longer kick just feels... goofy, for lack of a better word. If you have to change something, make there two distances for "2" point conversions, one that's worth 1 pt and the other 2.

Or just make the extra point automatic if you choose that route, since it practically is anyway, which will avoid unnecessary injuries.

Or just leave it the same and don't put Gronk out on PATs

 

[BSR]

What are they fixing with this idiotic move and whose idea was it?

It was Belichick's idea: Bill Belichick wants to move back extra points, or get rid of them - NFL - Sporting News

I swear the only people that would want to keep the rule as are those without DVRs or Ad Execs, because the only point to XPs was to take a bathroom break during the reams of commercials before and after that particular play. Waste of total time. This may not be the best solution but there is really no valid reason as to why things should remain with the status quo.

 

[borg]

The obvious solution:
For every game, each team selects an honorary captain who's job will be to spin three wheels after every TD. Wheel #1 will decide if the extra point(s) will be a kick or a play from scrimmage. Wheel #2 will decide from what yard line. Wheel #3 will decide how many points the attempt will be worth.
As far as honorary captain goes, I suggest a scantily clad buxom vixon likely to have a wardrobe malfunction....but that's just me. Maybe Bob Kraft's....ahem....."niece"

 

[Deus Irae]

...This may not be the best solution

That should be readily apparent to anyone who takes the time to remember a certain game in Buffalo.

but there is really no valid reason as to why things should remain with the status quo.

That's just silly. There are several valid reasons as to why things should remain status quo. The questions are whether reasons for change are sufficient to override them, and whether an acceptable alternative can be fairly implemented.

 

[Kontradiction]

The obvious solution:
For every game, each team selects an honorary captain who's job will be to spin three wheels after every TD. Wheel #1 will decide if the extra point(s) will be a kick or a play from scrimmage. Wheel #2 will decide from what yard line. Wheel #3 will decide how many points the attempt will be worth.
As far as honorary captain goes, I suggest a scantily clad buxom vixon likely to have a wardrobe malfunction....but that's just me. Maybe Bob Kraft's....ahem....."niece"

 

[borg]

Solution #2....the Real Obvious Solution

Since the EP is 99% automatic......just skip it and give the scoring team 7 points. IF a team wants 8 points instead of 7, then give them the ball at the 2 and let them try to get the ball in the end zone....a score earns the eighth point....BUT ....a failure costs a point and the final TD value is 6.
To summarize.....exactly the same as current system but teams don't need to trot out for the automatic 1 point....its given.
Reality...the EP is a waste of everyone's time.....zero excitement, viewers hit the toilets during the EP, just another opportunity to get hurt....for what?

 

[BSR]

That should be readily apparent to anyone who takes the time to remember a certain game in Buffalo.




That's just silly. There are several valid reasons as to why things should remain status quo. The questions are whether reasons for change are sufficient to override them, and whether an acceptable alternative can be fairly implemented.

I have yet to hear any valid reasons as to what if anything the status quo adds to the game. There has been one major injury as a result of this play (Gronkowski) that I can think of. Are there any points from a competitive or entertainment nature that outweigh the one negative of losing just one player? I can't think of any.

 

[dales804]

Solution #2....the Real Obvious Solution

Since the EP is 99% automatic......just skip it and give the scoring team 7 points. IF a team wants 8 points instead of 7, then give them the ball at the 2 and let them try to get the ball in the end zone....a score earns the eighth point....BUT ....a failure costs a point and the final TD value is 6.
To summarize.....exactly the same as current system but teams don't need to trot out for the automatic 1 point....its given.
Reality...the EP is a waste of everyone's time.....zero excitement, viewers hit the toilets during the EP, just another opportunity to get hurt....for what?

This is what I'm in favor of. I know there was a thread on it a while back, too.

 

[Deus Irae]

I have yet to hear any valid reasons as to what if anything the status quo adds to the game.

That says all we really need to know about your biased position. We're talking about a change that has the potential to fundamentally change the game of football, and you're making that argument?

:bricks:

 

[Danger Zone]

That says all we really need to know about your biased position. We're talking about a change that has the potential to fundamentally change the game of football, and you're making that argument?

:bricks:

Why do I feel the biggest crime here according to Deus, is not the potential threat to the fundamentals of football.. but that there are people sharing opinions that actually differ from his?

 

[SB39]

Why do I feel the biggest crime here according to Deus, is not the potential threat to the fundamentals if football.. but that there are people sharing opinions that actually differ from his?

Because Deus has never been wrong about anything ever once in his entire life ever.

And if you don't believe me, just ask him.

 

[BSR]

That says all we really need to know about your biased position. We're talking about a change that has the potential to fundamentally change the game of football, and you're making that argument?

:bricks:

My biased position? I think you need to turn that mirror on yourself if you can't tell me what competitive or entertainment it brings to the game. Even if we just eliminated it as Borg outlined what have we really lost?

And since you mentioned it yeah there really is no point to the victory formation. I would be fine if refs were allowed to run off time under specific circumstances where the games were decided. There is nothing more stupid then forcing a team to come out of the locker rooms so they kneel the ball and run off the clock because they realized there were two seconds left on the clock.

 

[Danger Zone]

Because Deus has never been wrong about anything ever once in his entire life ever.

And if you don't believe me, just ask him.

I cant.. he has me on ignore.. -Because according to him, I just follow him around to yip at his heels...

... though I say that it's because he's already in every thread Im trying to read... and 9/10 times the guy in those threads being an obnoxious, know-it-all bully is him.

Take this thread for example. Tell me that this wasnt a normal, mostly polite discussion (as conversations about sports go) without people insulting each other -until he started in with the usual "how dare you challenge my opinion" rhetoric.

 

[Wheelman]

The XFL had the rule that inside 2 minutes, if the team with the lead had the ball, they had to advance the ball at least a yard or the clock would stop. So there were no kneel-downs.

I've wanted that rule for quite a while now, the only difference is I would make it inside 5 minutes at the end of the 2nd and 4th quarter. And don't make it just for the team with the lead. Make it the rule whether leading, trailing, or tied. I absolutely despise clock killing kneel downs.

As for the extra point proposal...terrible idea! I don't like the idea of having to declare if you're going to do an extra point or go for 2-point conversion(unless they move the 2 point conversion back to the same place as the extra point).

If they really want to make it harder, force them to dropkick it for an extra point. Actually I'd really love that idea! That way Brady can hut the ball from punt distance, while the RB and WR are in a formation that looks like they're going for 2, and decide if he's going to punt the ball in or step into the pocket and go for 2 point conversion. It would make the unpredictability all the more better!

 

[SB39]

I cant.. he has me on ignore..

You're hardly in rare company. He tends to do that to anyone who dares disagree with him intelligently.

Take this thread for example. Tell me that this wasnt a normal, mostly polite discussion (as conversations about sports go) without people insulting each other -until he started in with the usual "how dare you challenge my opinion" rhetoric.

Agreed. There are certain people in this forum who, for some reason, have a license to behave like petulant children. I just grin and bear it; I'm used to suffering fools gladly.

 

[SB39]

I've wanted that rule for quite a while now, the only difference is I would make it inside 5 minutes at the end of the 2nd and 4th quarter. And don't make it just for the team with the lead. Make it the rule whether leading, trailing, or tied. I absolutely despise clock killing kneel downs.

It doesn't make sense to allow the team that is losing to get a free time out if they are unable to advance the ball. I can understand the rationale behind forcing a team with the lead to try to advance the ball, but if a team is losing by 4 with 50 seconds to go and they have the ball and get sacked, it should not stop the clock.

 

[Froob]

Solution #2....the Real Obvious Solution

Since the EP is 99% automatic......just skip it and give the scoring team 7 points. IF a team wants 8 points instead of 7, then give them the ball at the 2 and let them try to get the ball in the end zone....a score earns the eighth point....BUT ....a failure costs a point and the final TD value is 6.
To summarize.....exactly the same as current system but teams don't need to trot out for the automatic 1 point....its given.
Reality...the EP is a waste of everyone's time.....zero excitement, viewers hit the toilets during the EP, just another opportunity to get hurt....for what?

99% is not automatic. John Carney Missed extra point - YouTube
You're trying to fix a non-existent problem.

 

[lurker1965]

How long until we see a team line for a 2 point, but trot out the kicking team: then the kicker walks toward his sideline yelling the rule changed and they can't kick. Then he stops and turns around. Direct snap to him way on the edge.

Ok, not anyone with a good kicker - maybe the Jags or somebody.

Excuse me while I repack the bowl in my bong.

 

[RayClay]

Don't know why they changed it so drastically (yardage). It's totally unknown how this will affect the game now.

 

[RayClay]

How long until we see a team line for a 2 point, but trot out the kicking team: then the kicker walks toward his sideline yelling the rule changed and they can't kick. Then he stops and turns around. Direct snap to him way on the edge.

Ok, not anyone with a good kicker - maybe the Jags or somebody.

Excuse me while I repack the bowl in my bong.

Except you'll be on the 25 yard line. Have another rip.