Teams having to spend 89% of cap space?

[JDot]

Need some help from cap experts..

I have absolutely confused my self on this issue. Starting 2013, teams had to spend 89% of there cap space. But there is a 3 year rolling average I believe.

Can someone explain this to me in salary cap for dummies terms, how this works.

Ie: Using the Raiders for example(or who ever)

» Over the Cap- Oakland Raiders Salary Cap and Contracts

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Need some help from cap experts..

I have absolutely confused my self on this issue. Starting 2013, teams had to spend 89% of there cap space. But there is a 3 year rolling average I believe.

Can someone explain this to me in salary cap for dummies terms, how this works.

Ie: Using the Raiders for example(or who ever)

» Over the Cap- Oakland Raiders Salary Cap and Contracts

Here's the wording:

Section 9. Minimum Team Cash Spending:
(a) For each of the following four-League Year periods, 2013–2016 and 2017–2020, there shall be a guaranteed Minimum Team Cash Spending of 89% of the Salary Caps for such periods (e.g., if the Salary Caps for the 2013–16 and 2017–2020 are $100, 120, 130, and 150 million, respectively, each Club shall have a Minimum Team Cash Spending for that period of $445 million (89% of $500 million))
(b) Any shortfall in the Minimum Team Cash Spending at the end of a League Year in which it is applicable (i.e., the 2016 and 2020 League Years) shall be paid, on or before the next September 15, by the Team having such shortfall, directly to the players who were on such a Team’s roster at any time during the applicable seasons, pursuant to the reasonable allocation instructions of the NFLPA.

Note that this is cash spending, i.e., the money actually paid out, independent of the actual salary cap hit. In other words, if the total salary cap from 2013 to 2016 is $500 million, the total cash paid to players by each team from the beginning of the 2013 league year to the end of the 2016 league year must be at least 89% x $500 million = $445 million.

If teams fail to do this, then the difference gets paid out to the players on the team during that time span.

 

[JDot]

Here's the wording:



Note that this is cash spending, i.e., the money actually paid out, independent of the actual salary cap hit. In other words, if the total salary cap from 2013 to 2016 is $500 million, the total cash paid to players by each team from the beginning of the 2013 league year to the end of the 2016 league year must be at least 89% x $500 million = $445 million.

If teams fail to do this, then the difference gets paid out to the players on the team during that time span.

I said for Dummies!!!

Lol, thank you ctpatsfan77. Much appreciated, I think I got grip on it now. Ugh, such a pain in the arse. It always amazes me how poster like you navigate this stuff when it comes to the cap.

 

[Joker]

JDot....we have as members quite a contingent of lawyers. Even though there's always arguments between them,their grasp of contract language and understanding of complex monetary issues is an amazing resource for us common football fanatics. I admit I knew 1/100th of what I know NOW from the past few years of contract/cap threads . Makes our board the best in the country in my very biased opinion.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

JDot....we have as members quite a contingent of lawyers. Even though there's always arguments between them,their grasp of contract language and understanding of complex monetary issues is an amazing resource for us common football fanatics. I admit I knew 1/100th of what I know NOW from the past few years of contract/cap threads . Makes our board the best in the country in my very biased opinion.

I am not a lawyer. :snob:

OTOH, I was a science major whose job now includes teaching pre-law students how to take the LSAT, so trying to parse the CBA is actually fairly easy for me.

 

[JDot]

JDot....we have as members quite a contingent of lawyers. Even though there's always arguments between them,their grasp of contract language and understanding of complex monetary issues is an amazing resource for us common football fanatics. I admit I knew 1/100th of what I know NOW from the past few years of contract/cap threads . Makes our board the best in the country in my very biased opinion.

My Man...

Agreed Joker. It is pretty awesome that I can ask about some obscure cap question and get a ridiculous on point answer with in minutes. Love it.

Appreciate the response from you Joker, always enjoy reading your crazy ass posts(mine are just as crazy, lol). You seem like a dude I would be cool with drinking a macallan neat at the bar with.

Cheers..

(Thanks again ctpatsfan77)

 

[goheels22002]

I am not a lawyer. :snob:

OTOH, I was a science major whose job now includes teaching pre-law students how to take the LSAT, so trying to parse the CBA is actually fairly easy for me.

Well that explains a lot about how lawyers like Roger Goodell can come up with rules like these:

"REMOVAL OF HELMET
(h) Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play during a celebration or during a confrontation with a game official or any other player.

Note 1: Under no condition is an official to allow a player to shove, push, or strike him in an offensive, disrespectful, or unsportsmanlike manner. Any such action must be reported to the Commissioner.

Penalty: (for a through h): Loss of 15 yards from succeeding spot or whatever spot the Referee, after consulting with the crew, deems equitable.

Note 2: Violations of (b) or (c) (above), which occur before or during the game may result in disqualification in addition to the yardage penalty. Any violations at the game site on the day of the game, including postgame, may result in discipline by the Commissioner. Any violation of (g) (above) may result in disqualification and also will include discipline by the Commissioner. An official must see the entire action for a player to be disqualified.

Note 3: Violations of (b) will be penalized if any of the acts are committed directly at an opponent. These acts include but are not limited to: sack dances; home run swing; incredible hulk; spiking the ball; spinning the ball; throwing or shoving the ball; pointing; pointing the ball; verbal taunting; military salute; standing over an opponent (prolonged and with provocation); or dancing.

Note 4: Violations of (c) will be penalized if any of the acts occur anywhere on the field. These acts include but are not limited to: throat slash; machine-gun salute; sexually-suggestive gestures, prolonged gyrations; or stomping on a team logo.

Note 5: Violations of (d) will be penalized if they occur anywhere on the field other than the bench area.

Note 6: If any foreign object(s) are deemed a safety hazard by the game officials, in addition to a yardage penalty, the player will be subject to ejection from the game, whether he uses the object or not.

DISCONCERTING
(i) The defensive use of acts or words designed to disconcert an offensive team at the snap. An official must blow his whistle immediately to stop play.
(j) Concealing a ball underneath the clothing or using any article of equipment to simulate a ball.

LINGERING
(k) Using entering substitutes, legally returning players, substitutes on sidelines, or withdrawn players to confuse opponents. The clarification is also to be interpreted as covering any lingering by players leaving the field when being substituted for. See 5-2-2."

I am so grateful that under the rules governing "Removal of Helmet" there can be no dancing, no incredible hulk, no military salute and no throwing or shoving of the ball on the field. It would seem that this rule does not, mercifully, prohibit sticking needles in my eyes. But I'm sure the Commissioner is looking into that.

 

[JDot]

Well that explains a lot about how lawyers like Roger Goodell can come up with rules like these:

"REMOVAL OF HELMET
(h) Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play during a celebration or during a confrontation with a game official or any other player.

Note 1: Under no condition is an official to allow a player to shove, push, or strike him in an offensive, disrespectful, or unsportsmanlike manner. Any such action must be reported to the Commissioner.

Penalty: (for a through h): Loss of 15 yards from succeeding spot or whatever spot the Referee, after consulting with the crew, deems equitable.

Note 2: Violations of (b) or (c) (above), which occur before or during the game may result in disqualification in addition to the yardage penalty. Any violations at the game site on the day of the game, including postgame, may result in discipline by the Commissioner. Any violation of (g) (above) may result in disqualification and also will include discipline by the Commissioner. An official must see the entire action for a player to be disqualified.

Note 3: Violations of (b) will be penalized if any of the acts are committed directly at an opponent. These acts include but are not limited to: sack dances; home run swing; incredible hulk; spiking the ball; spinning the ball; throwing or shoving the ball; pointing; pointing the ball; verbal taunting; military salute; standing over an opponent (prolonged and with provocation); or dancing.

Note 4: Violations of (c) will be penalized if any of the acts occur anywhere on the field. These acts include but are not limited to: throat slash; machine-gun salute; sexually-suggestive gestures, prolonged gyrations; or stomping on a team logo.

Note 5: Violations of (d) will be penalized if they occur anywhere on the field other than the bench area.

Note 6: If any foreign object(s) are deemed a safety hazard by the game officials, in addition to a yardage penalty, the player will be subject to ejection from the game, whether he uses the object or not.

DISCONCERTING
(i) The defensive use of acts or words designed to disconcert an offensive team at the snap. An official must blow his whistle immediately to stop play.
(j) Concealing a ball underneath the clothing or using any article of equipment to simulate a ball.

LINGERING
(k) Using entering substitutes, legally returning players, substitutes on sidelines, or withdrawn players to confuse opponents. The clarification is also to be interpreted as covering any lingering by players leaving the field when being substituted for. See 5-2-2."

I am so grateful that under the rules governing "Removal of Helmet" there can be no dancing, no incredible hulk, no military salute and no throwing or shoving of the ball on the field. It would seem that this rule does not, mercifully, prohibit sticking needles in my eyes. But I'm sure the Commissioner is looking into that.

Wow, just wow..