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My Blueprint for the Defense

From Grid's profile on Marcus Smith:



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And, his profile on Aaron Lynch:

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I think that if the Pats are looking for a developmental base end then Lynch makes much more sense. But if they are looking for moveable pieces on a chessboard, then taking Smith along with a guy like Christian Jones (who lined up at DE, DT, OLB and ILB in his career, and who has safety-like coverage ability) would give the Pats the ultimate group of interchangeable weapons, along with Jamie Collins.

Could it be that Grid likes Smith more than you or I? I'm glad that Grid was impressed by his combination of explosiveness and fluidity, that's exactly what I saw.

Oh, I don't know ~ I remember you being pretty ecstatic about Smith quite a ways back...Just echoing your Wisdom, Brother Manx, and that of Brother Mayo!!
 
There have been a lot of waste on UFAs/trades. Albert Haynesworth, Jonathan Fanene, Adrian Wilson, Shaun Ellis ... not a lot of production out of those guys. Add in some of the more glaring draft misses (Ras-I Dowling, Jermaine Cunningham, likely Tavon Wilson and Jake Bequette) and there's a lot of opportunity to improve the defense that got missed...

Reading that just now made me sad.
 
Defensive players start to show up at the Combine tomorrow. Right now my favorite prospects who fit how I'd like to see the Pats' defense evolve:

- Penetrating 3-tech: Aaron Donald followed by Domique Easley.
- Fast, rangy, versatile LB who excels in coverage: Ryan Shazier and Christian Jones.
- Hybrid DE/OLB who can play in space: Marcus Smith.
- Physical strong safety who is not a liability in coverage: Calvin Pryor will be long gone. Antone Exum in the 4th would be awesome.
- Versatile day 3 big DB who can play outside CB or safety: Dontae Johnson or Jonathan Dowling. Aaron Colvin would be good, but more of a pure outside CB.

There are tons of other guys I like a lot and who I'd be happy to see drafted (Trent Murphy, Ra'Shede Hageman, Brent Urban, Aaron Lynch, Justin Ellis, Kyle Fuller, Bashaud Breeland and many others come to mind), but these guys would all fit into the "blueprint" of creating a faster, more athletic and more disruptive defense. I'll be eager to see how these guys do at the Combine (Easley obviously won't participate in the workouts and drills).
 
Agreed. Plus, we pay more on our scouting and have a smarter coach than all other 31 teams--less margin for error should be expected.

I'm intrigued by DT Aaron Donald out of Pittsburgh and Jonathan Dowling. Donald has won about everything an interior d-lineman can. What quickness! Who cares if he's udersized.

A lot of people just automatically dismiss him since he doesn't fit the prototypical Belichick tall lineman.

Sometimes heart and quickness dominate--like it did in the ACC with Donald. (Imagine him playing the Steelers and becoming a nemesis? Good thoughts.)
 
Agreed. Plus, we pay more on our scouting and have a smarter coach than all other 31 teams--less margin for error should be expected.

I'm intrigued by DT Aaron Donald out of Pittsburgh and Jonathan Dowling. Donald has won about everything an interior d-lineman can. What quickness! Who cares if he's udersized.

A lot of people just automatically dismiss him since he doesn't fit the prototypical Belichick tall lineman.

Sometimes heart and quickness dominate--like it did in the ACC with Donald. (Imagine him playing the Steelers and becoming a nemesis? Good thoughts.)

Aaron Donald is almost a physical clone of John Randle. Unfortunately I don't think BB wants a Donald-type player, I think he'd prefer a lethargic 2-gap run-stuffer. And thus, our weak and outdated defense will continue.
 
I'm intrigued by DT Aaron Donald out of Pittsburgh and Jonathan Dowling. Donald has won about everything an interior d-lineman can. What quickness! Who cares if he's udersized.

A lot of people just automatically dismiss him since he doesn't fit the prototypical Belichick tall lineman.

Sometimes heart and quickness dominate--like it did in the ACC with Donald. (Imagine him playing the Steelers and becoming a nemesis? Good thoughts.)

Aaron Donald is almost a physical clone of John Randle. Unfortunately I don't think BB wants a Donald-type player, I think he'd prefer a lethargic 2-gap run-stuffer. And thus, our weak and outdated defense will continue.

FWIW (probably not much), the Pats did informally meet with Donald today at the Combine:

Report: Patriots meet with Pitt DL Aaron Donald in Indianapolis - Going Deep - Boston.com

Things that might cause the Pats to consider Donald in spite of his not fitting their normal profile:

- He has a great motor and great intangibles
- He has played all over the DL, including outside in 3 man fronts
- BB has been open in his admiration for Geno Atkins, and the impact that he can have on opposing offenses

It's unclear whether Donald will last to 29, but I would hope that the Pats are willing to "think outside of the box" if he does.
 
FWIW (probably not much), the Pats did informally meet with Donald today at the Combine:

Report: Patriots meet with Pitt DL Aaron Donald in Indianapolis - Going Deep - Boston.com

Things that might cause the Pats to consider Donald in spite of his not fitting their normal profile:

- He has a great motor and great intangibles
- He has played all over the DL, including outside in 3 man fronts
- BB has been open in his admiration for Geno Atkins, and the impact that he can have on opposing offenses

It's unclear whether Donald will last to 29, but I would hope that the Pats are willing to "think outside of the box" if he does.

I certainly hope they'll strongly consider him.

Even if they won't they might be meeting with him to evaluate their own evaluation process: go through the normal testing evaluation of the player and form an opinion, and then take a look at what he's become a few years into his NFL career to see how that stacks up against their pre-draft opinion and make a judgment on how well they're evaluating/judging.
 
I certainly hope they'll strongly consider him.

Even if they won't they might be meeting with him to evaluate their own evaluation process: go through the normal testing evaluation of the player and form an opinion, and then take a look at what he's become a few years into his NFL career to see how that stacks up against their pre-draft opinion and make a judgment on how well they're evaluating/judging.

If he tests as well as the Rumors say he will we wont have the opportunity to pick him
 
If he tests as well as the Rumors say he will we wont have the opportunity to pick him

I think you're right, someone will take him and he'll be a beast. I just think that BB wouldn't take him even if he was available, probably go with Louis Nix if there.
 
I think you're right, someone will take him and he'll be a beast. I just think that BB wouldn't take him even if he was available, probably go with Louis Nix if there.

I don't worry about whether prospects will be off the board or not this far out. There's so much hype and deception going on. Vince Wilfork was never supposed to last to 21 in 2004.

If Donald's gone, he's gone. If he lasts to 29, I hope BB gives him very serious consideration. For my money he's the most disruptive defensive player in the draft, including Clowney.
 
I had an epiphany this morning and finally thought of the perfect comp for Aaron Donald in La'Roi Glover. I'm not saying he'll have the same career but at a notch under 6'2", 285 pounds, short arms, quick hands, great first step....I never really agreed with some of the other comps like Justin Smith that I've heard. It's nearly impossible to find videos for Glover online but this one was interesting.

ASMA Press (Channel 8 - Glover) - YouTube
 
Tony Pauline suggests that Carlos Dunlap could potentially be cut by Cincinnati because of a cap crunch:

I’m told the Cincinnati Bengals may have to cut Carlos Dunlap in order to create the salary cap room necessary to sign a number of other highly considered players on their roster about to hit free agency.

Combine News & Notes: Sunday

I can't see it (they'd only save $2.2M in cap space, and would have a$6.4M dead money hit, according to Overthecap.com), but if it somehow happened Dunlap would move to the top of my FA DE list. He'd be an ideal LDE in a rotation with Jones and Ninkovich. He could move inside on pass rushing situations, he's long and big enough (6'6" 280#) to play outside in a 3-4 at times. I wanted him badly in 2010.

Carlos Dunlap - NT - Aaron Donald - Chandler Jones would be a heck of a line. If Wilfork can come back at a meaningful level, or if he's replaced by a reasonable quality player (Linval Joseph) it would be one of the best lines in the NFL. Even if the NT is Siliga, it's still pretty darn good.
 
As someone once said, I don't care about the 31 other teams.


Given that almost all of them draft worse than the Patriots you shouldn't, and since they all pick higher on a regular basis it's amazing the Patriots do so much better.
 
Ah, Grid finally gets to my uber-binky for 2014, MF/FD Christian Jones. I've been on the Jones bandwagon for months, and have been waiting to see if my Fanatical Brother agrees with my lofty assessment - in the level of Lavonte David man-love. I copy it in full, hopefully with permission:

Run Defense ~ Awesome. Just awesome. If you can get by his Weight ~ and I strongly suggest that you do!! ~ Jones has what is far more crucial to Success and that of course is Core Power. He's built phenomenal Core Power in the Weight Rooms over the Years, and it shows on the Field. Combined with outstanding Acceleration and Closing Speed, exceptional Mechanics, navigating Traffic, and great Tackling, and I believe he'll become a Force.

Pass Coverage ~ Phenomenal. Phenomenal. Jones brings spectacular Core Agility ~ Fluidity ~ to the table, and that translates into Verticity ~ Turn & Burn Acuity, Earthlings ~ on the level of a Defensive Back. A good one.

Pass Rush ~ Raw but loaded with Potential: Launch Velocity, Closing Speed, Fluidity, and quick, violent Hands. Oh, yeah.

Intangibles ~ Outstanding.

Intangibles: Outstanding. Yep. Mind you: On Tape, Jones is often hesitant or slow to Read & React to changes in the Tactical LandScape before'm. Based on Tape alone ~ and Tape is King ~ I'd have to give Jones a Failing Grade.

After all: It's not as if he's played 3 different Positions in 3 Years, which cripples, indeed obliterates his chances of settling in, setting down, and immersing himself in the thousands of nuances of the Role for long enough to master it.

And it's not as if he's played 3 different Positions in 3 Years, thus making it unmistakably clear that World Champion Head Coach Jimbo Fisher and the World Champion Coaches at Florida State have had complete Confidence in the cerebral Capacity of Jones to start from Scratch 3 Years in a row and play at a World Championship level.

Oh, wait.

Actually, he has.

I'm not worried about'is Processing Speed or Field Vision.

I consider these a definite Strength.

Another thing that's easy to get wrong with Christian Jones is his Power.

Looking at'm, it's easy ~ for most, anyway ~ to fret about'is Size and worry about'is Capacity to work his way through Traffic that consists of brutish behemoths. Those are of course precisely the concerns that caused LaVonte David to be inexplicably available at the end of the 2nd Round in 2012, despite his clear SuperStar Potential.

I and my buddy on the FanBoards who wishes to remain Anonymous but who deserves this tangential reference saw that what mattered was not Size but Core Power. Core Power is what I've been preaching about since the mid-13th Century, and Core Power is what's been enabling smaller men to defeat and indeed to destroy behemoths 50 and even 100 Pounds heavier than them since the beginning of Time. Core Power, that is, and Agility. And Brains.

Jones has all of them in abundance, and is far more powerful at the Point of Impact than most seem to perceive.

And he's got tremendous Potential as a Pass Rusher.

Far more crucially to a Team trying to build a 21st Century Defense, though, is the extraordinary Capability that Christian Jones brings to Pass Coverage. Simply put: The young man is a Natural, and has the Potential to make an enormous Impact on the Game at the Next Level. His Capacity is the kind that impacts when it matters most.

His Potential, indeed, is to become the kind of Defender that is essential to Making War upon the dynamic Hybrid Offenses of the 21st Century: Covering vast swaths of Real Estate rapidly and Making Plays against The Very Best.

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I haven't seen midfielder with Jone's combination of verticity, agility, explosiveness and core power since ... Lavonte David. And at 6' 3" 240# Jones is a bit heftier than David.

Add Aaron Donald and Christian Jones, and this defense will be transformed.

I only hope that teams confuse Jones' being used at so many different positions for a "lack of instincts" and "poor technique", and discount him.
 
Ah, Grid finally gets to my uber-binky for 2014, MF/FD Christian Jones. I've been on the Jones bandwagon for months, and have been waiting to see if my Fanatical Brother agrees with my lofty assessment - in the level of Lavonte David man-love. I copy it in full, hopefully with permission:



Category: Christian Jones -

I haven't seen midfielder with Jone's combination of verticity, agility, explosiveness and core power since ... Lavonte David. And at 6' 3" 240# Jones is a bit heftier than David.

Add Aaron Donald and Christian Jones, and this defense will be transformed.

I only hope that teams confuse Jones' being used at so many different positions for a "lack of instincts" and "poor technique", and discount him.


You missed out the important part. Is he a Super Sleeper Mega Beast or a Mega Sleeping Super Beast.
 
You missed out the important part. Is he a Super Sleeper Mega Beast or a Mega Sleeping Super Beast.

It's kind of a "pinch" vs. "grain" question.
 
Ah, Grid finally gets to my uber-binky for 2014, MF/FD Christian Jones. I've been on the Jones bandwagon for months, and have been waiting to see if my Fanatical Brother agrees with my lofty assessment - in the level of Lavonte David man-love. I copy it in full, hopefully with permission:



Category: Christian Jones -

I haven't seen midfielder with Jone's combination of verticity, agility, explosiveness and core power since ... Lavonte David. And at 6' 3" 240# Jones is a bit heftier than David.

Add Aaron Donald and Christian Jones, and this defense will be transformed.

I only hope that teams confuse Jones' being used at so many different positions for a "lack of instincts" and "poor technique", and discount him.

Honored to've met your "Full Quote" standards, my Brother!!
 
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