Bill Belichick's defenses in the past few playoff years

[TonyTucker]

Have stunk. Looking at the threads down the first page, the threads are:

More weapons for Brady, more weapons for Brady, McDaniels, Amendola didn't work, wide receivers, what was the offensive gameplan, offseason additions on offense, and offense let them down, not the defense.

I've bashed Brady plenty, but it's also swung too far in that direction. Why can the other team (even the Jack Del Rio Broncos) hold the Patriots in the teens, yet Belichick's defenses get carved up on a regular basis. I'm going back to 2010, since I feel that was the start of this new Patriots era.

Sanchez - 16/25, 194 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 127.3 rating, 28 points
Flacco - 22/36, 306 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 95.6 rating, saved by Sterling Moore
Eli - 30/40, 296 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 103.8 rating, 2:1 TOP
Schaub - 34/51, 343 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 90.6 rating, 28 points
Flacco - 21/36, 240 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 106.2 rating, 28 points
Peyton - 32/43, 400 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 118.4 rating, 26 points

The only two they stopped were Tebow and Luck, held to ratings in the low 50's. Even Matt Schaub put up good numbers against them. The Giants didn't put up many points, but they held the ball twice as much. So I ask, why can the other team stop the Patriots HOF QB, but our HOF Coach routinely gets pummeled by the other team and at times, their not-so-great QB?

 

[condon84]

Too conservative IMO. They wait for the offense to make mistakes which have rarely happened.

 

[mgteich]

CONCLUSIONS

1) Our defense needs to continue to improve.

2) Our offense can't be counted on to score 30 points in the playoffs.

 

[upstater1]

One way to improve defense: keep 5 starters healthy...

Tommy Kelly
Vince Wilfork
Jerod Mayo
Brandon Spikes
Aqib Talib

Another way to improve defense:

Win a 13th game and play the AFCCG at Foxboro.

NOTE: last year, the Patriots did just that, but again with no Talib or Gronk, etc.

The Patriots are not going to improve the D by signing all-pros from other teams right now. Ain't going to happen.

So, keep the guys healthy. A healthy Patriot team is formidable.

 

[upstater1]

Other than reading Miguel's posts, etc., and keeping up on personnel transactions and free agency, this is the part of year in which the draft page becomes a lot more compelling for me. But, now that the draft is being moved so far back in May, I might just take a break!

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Yards allowed is not a good stand-alone measure of defense

Being regularly above average, for the season, in points allowed isn't "stinking"

It could be better, but it isn't stinking. I can't imagine how anyone can lose Wilfork, Kelly, Mayo, Spikes, and (when it mattered most) Talib and hope to succeed.

 

[patsfanincleveland]

Have stunk. Looking at the threads down the first page, the threads are:

More weapons for Brady, more weapons for Brady, McDaniels, Amendola didn't work, wide receivers, what was the offensive gameplan, offseason additions on offense, and offense let them down, not the defense.

I've bashed Brady plenty, but it's also swung too far in that direction. Why can the other team (even the Jack Del Rio Broncos) hold the Patriots in the teens, yet Belichick's defenses get carved up on a regular basis. I'm going back to 2010, since I feel that was the start of this new Patriots era.

Sanchez - 16/25, 194 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 127.3 rating, 28 points
Flacco - 22/36, 306 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 95.6 rating, saved by Sterling Moore
Eli - 30/40, 296 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 103.8 rating, 2:1 TOP
Schaub - 34/51, 343 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 90.6 rating, 28 points
Flacco - 21/36, 240 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 106.2 rating, 28 points
Peyton - 32/43, 400 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 118.4 rating, 26 points

The only two they stopped were Tebow and Luck, held to ratings in the low 50's. Even Matt Schaub put up good numbers against them. The Giants didn't put up many points, but they held the ball twice as much. So I ask, why can the other team stop the Patriots HOF QB, but our HOF Coach routinely gets pummeled by the other team and at times, their not-so-great QB?

A better avenue of inquiry is

Determine what you want to know
Understand the parameters
Develop applicable metrics
Draw conclusions.

Why are you determined to think something is true and make stupid comment after stupid comment to "prove" your nonsense?

Matt Schaub got blown out. Did you catch the score? That's what worries you?....his QBR

Joe Flacco was completely shut down before Talib went out. That's the ONLY REASON the Ravens won. Coaches can't control injuries.
Ditto Manning.....how did he look when in November?

Did you catch the drop by Welker in the Super Bowl? That's the catch that would have won the game?

A better idea would be to worry less about the defense and why you feel compelled to post idiotic drivel.

 

[Boomer B]

One way to improve defense: keep 5 starters healthy...

Tommy Kelly
Vince Wilfork
Jerod Mayo
Brandon Spikes
Aqib Talib

Another way to improve defense:

Win a 13th game and play the AFCCG at Foxboro.

NOTE: last year, the Patriots did just that, but again with no Talib or Gronk, etc.

The Patriots are not going to improve the D by signing all-pros from other teams right now. Ain't going to happen.

So, keep the guys healthy. A healthy Patriot team is formidable.

Obviously we had a ton of injuries, but there are going to be injuries every time we make the playoffs. Denver is missing an all pro tackle, an all pro LB, their best CB, and they played a great game. The gameplan on D left a lot to be desired.

 

[Snake Eyes]

One way to improve defense: keep 5 starters healthy...

Tommy Kelly
Vince Wilfork
Jerod Mayo
Brandon Spikes
Aqib Talib

So, keep the guys healthy. A healthy Patriot team is formidable.

Exactly how do you plan on accomplishing that?