NE-Pitt Gets Higher Boston TV Ratings Than Any Sox Postseason Game Except WS Clincher

[shmessy]

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another issue is national TV contracts, I can watch any Pats game I want free over the air, but for most Red Sox games they are only broadcast on NESN, I know that that isn't the case for the playoffs, but there were some other issues at play also, a 4:00 in the afternoon start time on a weekday is going to affect viewership because most people are at work, most people are not working Sundays, or Monday and Thursday nights when those games start.

They beat them head to head on same day situations this year every single time. No matter whether it was Thursday or Sunday.

 

[PatsSox363804]

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I don't have the figures, but I'm pretty confident Bears games crush White Sox and Cub games many times over - - even in the year the White Sox won it all.

Chicago has always been a Bears town. The Cubs are 2nd, but it's a distant second, and no one gives a crap about the White Sox.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

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Interesting, but not unexpected.

I'll leave it to demographers and statisticians to calculate the economic value of the difference in the marginal number of viewers in the context of a 19 or 20 game NFL championship (16 plus 3 or four games) season vs. a 172 or 179 game MLB championship season (162 plus 10 or 17 games).

Still, the difference in ratings is impressive when you consider that it's a regular season game (albeit part of a long rivalry) vs. multiple winner take all playoff series.

 

[shmessy]

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Chicago has always been a Bears town. The Cubs are 2nd, but it's a distant second, and no one gives a crap about the White Sox.

You asked the question using the Bears as the example and I answered it.

 

[shmessy]

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Interesting, but not unexpected.

I'll leave it to demographers and statisticians to calculate the economic value of the difference in the marginal number of viewers in the context of a 19 or 20 game NFL championship (16 plus 3 or four games) season vs. a 172 or 179 game MLB championship season (162 plus 10 or 17 games).

Still, the difference in ratings is impressive when you consider that it's a regular season game (albeit part of a long rivalry) vs. multiple winner take all playoff series.

That's it right there.

Better apples to apples is NFL regular season game (16) versus MLB playoff game (16, as it turned out for the Sox).

I would say that is a pretty good comparison.

 

[PatsSox363804]

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You asked the question using the Bears as the example and I answered it.

No, I was saying if the Patriots had the same level of success as the Bears over the past 12 years how would it reflect in Boston, a baseball town in 2001, not how it would play in Chicago, a football town since the 1920's.

 

[shmessy]

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No, I was saying if the Patriots had the same level of success as the Bears over the past 12 years how would it reflect in Boston, a baseball town in 2001, not how it would play in Chicago, a football town since the 1920's.

Would be interesting to see how Detroit Lions games do against Detroit Tigers games.

This decade, the Tigers are good. The Lions are not.

As a Marylander I can categorically state the horrible Redskins KILL the very good Nationals in the ratings.

 

[dales804]

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Interesting, but not unexpected.

I'll leave it to demographers and statisticians to calculate the economic value of the difference in the marginal number of viewers in the context of a 19 or 20 game NFL championship (16 plus 3 or four games) season vs. a 172 or 179 game MLB championship season (162 plus 10 or 17 games).

Still, the difference in ratings is impressive when you consider that it's a regular season game (albeit part of a long rivalry) vs. multiple winner take all playoff series.

Football is just more exciting to watch. I hadn't watched a baseball game in like 6 years but tuned in for this year's playoffs to see the aces pitching for all teams. My wife, who doesn't, and never has, watched any baseball, says, "don't you find it annoying that they do all this stupid stuff between every pitch?" That's the main reason why people tune out now; it's too slow and boring and you have to be a true baseball fan to watch a game. It's why the ratings for game 6 of the WS got the highest in the 11 p.m. hour, when the game was in the 8th inning.

 

[PatsDeb]

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I watched em all (the Pats live). Baseball is boring to watch on TV during the season, but the World Series games were intense and exciting. I agree with those who said, "It's all good!"

 

[AzorianPats]

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I'm a diehard Sox, B's, Pats, and to a lesser degree C's fan and agree with your sentiment about the NFL>MLB, but there is one huge factor that isn't being talked about. What if TB wasn't here and the Pats were still mired at the bottom. I don't think they would be drawing the viewers like they are. It's a combo of both, the NFL being much more exciting to watch and the fact that we get to watch one of the greatest of all time count the snap while wearing a Pat's uni.

That's like saying what if the Sox never had Ruth, Williams, Yaz, fisk, rice, etc would the Sox always be popular? At the end of the day success is what really brings in a fan base. Whether the team 100 years old, or 50, or 10. The only reason this is even an argument still is because the Sox play at the heart of the city, Pats don't. Your Gonna see a very similar situation next year in SF/Bay area with the 49 ers leaving the heart of the city, and the Giants in the heart of the city.

 

[jmt57]

Football is far more preferable to watch as a sports fan.

On the other hand if a kid was good enough to play either sport professionally, then baseball would be the better choice. In baseball the careers are longer, the game is much safer and healthier, and you make a whole lot more money.

From an ownership perspective, at a superficial glance it looks to me that while football may be more popular, I am guessing that baseball is more profitable (revenue from ten times as many games).

 

[shmessy]

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Football is far more preferable to watch as a sports fan.

On the other hand if a kid was good enough to play either sport professionally, then baseball would be the better choice. In baseball the careers are longer, the game is much safer and healthier, and you make a whole lot more money.

Agreed. So is tennis and poker.

 

[AzorianPats]

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Football is far more preferable to watch as a sports fan.

On the other hand if a kid was good enough to play either sport professionally, then baseball would be the better choice. In baseball the careers are longer, the game is much safer and healthier, and you make a whole lot more money.

From an ownership perspective, at a superficial glance it looks to me that while football may be more popular, I am guessing that baseball is more profitable (revenue from ten times as many games).

Cowboys, Patriots, Redskins are all worth well over a Billion dollars. I don't think a baseball team (maybe Yankees? ) are

 

[Avenger]

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Cowboys, Patriots, Redskins are all worth well over a Billion dollars. I don't think a baseball team (maybe Yankees? ) are

Boston Red Sox on the Forbes MLB Team Valuations List

Red Sox worth 1.3 Billion, compared to 1.4 for the Pats, Yanks are at 2.3, Toronto is the only NHL team to crack 1 Billion, Bruins at at .35, Celtics at .73, Lakers are at 1 Billion, NY Knicks at 1.1

 

[patsinthesnow]

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That's it right there.

Better apples to apples is NFL regular season game (16) versus MLB playoff game (16, as it turned out for the Sox).

I would say that is a pretty good comparison.

It's amazing. Even using this scale, the dieing MLB is still the 4th most popular sport in the U.S, viewership wise.

1. NFL
2. College Football (FSU vs. Miami drew 8 million, BCS bowl games 10+ million, National Championship 26 million)
3. NBA
4. MLB

 

[AzorianPats]

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Boston Red Sox on the Forbes MLB Team Valuations List

Red Sox worth 1.3 Billion, compared to 1.4 for the Pats, Yanks are at 2.3, Toronto is the only NHL team to crack 1 Billion, Bruins at at .35, Celtics at .73, Lakers are at 1 Billion, NY Knicks at 1.1

Your right. I was wrong.

 

[AzPatsFan]

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I was listening to Salk and Holley and they were discussing the WS ratings and how they were down 20% from 07 and as to why? I immediately think, it's because this is a football town now. They never mention it but rather spend time talking about likability of the team, DVR, the internet, superstars on the team. The answer is obvious but I think they don't want to say it because they're the flagship of the Sox.

The refs let the players doodle along and the games take 3 plus hours when they used to be just barely over two hours.

The games are now B-O-R-I-N-G.

Unless its a nice afternoon game (so many fewer of those) and are in the Park, popping peanuts, slurping beer and telling lies, with friends. Oh, and occasionally paying attention for 5 minutes in the three hours,

The rule to cure that is already n the books,. ENFORCE THE CLOCK RULE!!!!!!!

 

[captain insano]

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who gives a rats ass really? would we all still be pats fans[football fans]if football wasn't as popular as baseball or any other sport? whats the point?
who cares what the ratings were.

 

[shmessy]

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who gives a rats ass really? would we all still be pats fans[football fans]if football wasn't as popular as baseball or any other sport? whats the point?
who cares what the ratings were.

Answer: The Boston Globe

Money makes the world go 'round, Captain. If you want to remain oblivious to the economic war that is being waged everyday against the Patriots from certain quarters (and those quarters are losing!), then that is your prerogative.

 

[captain insano]

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Answer: The Boston Globe

Money makes the world go 'round, Captain. If you want to remain oblivious to the economic war that is being waged everyday against the Patriots from certain quarters (and those quarters are losing!), then that is your prerogative.

I think the pats are going to be ok. the redsox are ok to and they aren't most popular. so are the Celtics and bruins. all of them are firmly in the black making money hand over fist. this thread has nothing to do with money and everything to do with some patriots weird insecurity about the redsox and there popularity. mind boggling.