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He is one of the greatest fighters ever.

67 fights and only lost 3 and had 2 draws. 2 losses in 76 and his last loss 11 years later in 87 vs Ray Leonard which would be his final fight. Hagler hounded for a rematch, but Leonard wouldnt fight Hagler again because he knew that he would lose.
you remember Robbie simms? I think he was haglers half brother or something. he would work at where I worked off and on at the old Brockton enterprise when he had time away from boxing.. one of the petronelli brothers trainers worked there also.
 
Belichick, too, according to the link here: "Another championship banner in Boston," Belichick said this morning in his first comments since Wednesday night's World Series conclusion. "Congratulations to the Red Sox. That's great. It's awesome."

omg I wonder if the redsox hateing pats fans know this?
 
At Super Bowl 38, I saw almost as many Red Sox hats and stuff as Patriots attire.

Boston is a baseball town and for many the Red Sox come first and then the Pats. For me the Pats are first, but Im proud when a Boston team wins in any sport.

Boston is a bandwagon town....sorry to say.

Everyone loves the Sox now, but the last 3 years, till about the time Ortiz hit the grand slam against the Tigers, interest for the Sox was at an all time low. The Sox are disgustingly popular, no doubt, but the Pats are now the #1 team in the region......for now. Judging by how people have booed them, despite being 6-2 this season, I can see it getting ugly, if we really suck when Brady/Belichick leave.
 
Boston is a bandwagon town....sorry to say.

Everyone loves the Sox now, but the last 3 years, till about the time Ortiz hit the grand slam against the Tigers, interest for the Sox was at an all time low. The Sox are disgustingly popular, no doubt, but the Pats are now the #1 team in the region......for now. Judging by how people have booed them, despite being 6-2 this season, I can see it getting ugly, if we really suck when Brady/Belichick leave.

I wouldn't call it a bandwagon town. People everywhere -- Boston included -- do jump on the bandwagon when a team succeeds. But fans in Boston stick with their teams as much as any town, imo. From the time I was able to follow sports, it was 25 years before any of the teams other than than the Celts won, yet all the teams were pretty popular throughout my childhood.
 
So, I see that the Pats honored the Soxtoday. Were the whiners here upset about that? :)
 
So, I see that the Pats honored the Soxtoday. Were the whiners here upset about that? :)

god I hope they were :D
the stands are filled with people in sox shirts lol . that's gotta drive them nuts:rocker:
 
god I hope they were :D
the stands are filled with people in sox shirts lol . that's gotta drive them nuts:rocker:
Yeah, you're not allowed to support more than one Boston sports team at any given time. :eek:
 
Boston is a bandwagon town....sorry to say.

Everyone loves the Sox now, but the last 3 years, till about the time Ortiz hit the grand slam against the Tigers, interest for the Sox was at an all time low. The Sox are disgustingly popular, no doubt, but the Pats are now the #1 team in the region......for now. Judging by how people have booed them, despite being 6-2 this season, I can see it getting ugly, if we really suck when Brady/Belichick leave.

The pink hats will jump from bandwagon to bandwagon. The true fans are the ones who stay with them when they are 1-15... when Irving Fryar pulls a knife... when Zeke Mowat shakes his junk at Lisa Olsen... When they are a laughingstock. Since 1967, the sawx have not been a laughingstock, save for one or two seasons. The Pats' ancient history is one of NYJet-ian ineptitude with occasional teases of greatness. The Pre-Kraft era. The post Kraft era is a different story, and the history books are still being re-written. That still does not change the fact that the Sawx have a 34 year jump on the Pats. (1967-2001).
 
The pink hats will jump from bandwagon to bandwagon. The true fans are the ones who stay with them when they are 1-15... when Irving Fryar pulls a knife... when Zeke Mowat shakes his junk at Lisa Olsen... When they are a laughingstock. Since 1967, the sawx have not been a laughingstock, save for one or two seasons. The Pats' ancient history is one of NYJet-ian ineptitude with occasional teases of greatness. The Pre-Kraft era. The post Kraft era is a different story, and the history books are still being re-written. That still does not change the fact that the Sawx have a 34 year jump on the Pats. (1967-2001).

Sox are older then the Pats by years, but at the end of the day its still a baseball vs football argument, and football is king now, and that includes in Boston. Like I said the challenge for the Pats will be when Brady and BB leave. But me thinks the NFL just too much of a juggernaut.

For me, I'm pushing into my 30's. My best memories as a child were always the Patriots, esp the Super Bowl run vs GB, and I think that's the case for most fans my age and younger. The Kraft era success of the Pats, and the ridiculous popularity of the NFL, its just bound to leave its mark on this town.
 
Sox are older then the Pats by years, but at the end of the day its still a baseball vs football argument, and football is king now, and that includes in Boston. Like I said the challenge for the Pats will be when Brady and BB leave. But me thinks the NFL just too much of a juggernaut.

For me, I'm pushing into my 30's. My best memories as a child were always the Patriots, esp the Super Bowl run vs GB, and I think that's the case for most fans my age and younger. The Kraft era success of the Pats, and the ridiculous popularity of the NFL, its just bound to leave its mark on this town.

I think you underestimate the power of the red sox brand. I don't disagree that football is #1. However, there are thousands if not millions of homes in the New England area that won't watch football, that are religiously tuned to NESN on a mid summer, mid week game that us football fans could care less about. You know the game, too. It's some kid up from Pawtucket making a spot start because the #5 guy has a blister vs. Kansas City's #4 starter. Mid week, mid summer, on a night when you're sitting on the deck drinking brews. You call your mum up, and she's got the game on. She's got aunt Ethel visiting, and they are breaking down the #5 KC hitter's stance. Then aunt Ethel comes up with how the guy is a philandering pig, and that's why his 0-whatever vs. this kid from the Pawsox that no one's heard of.

short version: is generational. More blue hairs watch the sox than the 30 something male demographic.
 
I think you underestimate the power of the red sox brand. I don't disagree that football is #1. However, there are thousands if not millions of homes in the New England area that won't watch football, that are religiously tuned to NESN on a mid summer, mid week game that us football fans could care less about. You know the game, too. It's some kid up from Pawtucket making a spot start because the #5 guy has a blister vs. Kansas City's #4 starter. Mid week, mid summer, on a night when you're sitting on the deck drinking brews. You call your mum up, and she's got the game on. She's got aunt Ethel visiting, and they are breaking down the #5 KC hitter's stance. Then aunt Ethel comes up with how the guy is a philandering pig, and that's why his 0-whatever vs. this kid from the Pawsox that no one's heard of.

short version: is generational. More blue hairs watch the sox than the 30 something male demographic.

I think we are gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. I think that was the case years ago, but not so much now. I mean Sox are still ridiculously popular, That's no question. But the example you used you can make the same case for Pats fans in the region that breaks down the draft class like its their job.

I know a lot of people don't like change, but times have changed!
 
:bricks::bricks::bricks::bricks:
 


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