With All The NFL Injuries, Could Ryan Mallett Be Traded This Week?

[TruthSeeker]

No, I mean 3 guys. Better arm, better touch downfield, better on the run than Brady. Whether he can turn that into production even remotely close to Brady's (or the other two guys) remains to be seen. I'm talking talent, not production. I like the improvement I saw this preseason and word is the Pats like it as well.

Amazingly enough, this thread has gone downhill.

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[PP2]

Goddammit. 5-2 is absolutely unacceptable around here. It has to be 7-0, every single year. No excuse.

 

[sb1]

Pinkhat fans are so adorable...

 

[sb1]

As for the OP - I doubt it. No tangible reason to trade our backup QB unless another team blows them away with an offer.

 

[letekro]

This thread has me shaking my head. The Pats obviously like Mallett. Why would they trade him--a 3rd round pick that was reportedly their highest rated QB in the 2011 draft--for a 3d round pick, after he has been developing in the system for 3+ years??? That is truly idiotic. In addition to that, Brady is going to be 37 next year. It may be time to move on sooner rather than later. While it looks like the Pats hit on Mallett, they missed badly on O'Connell and there is no guarantee that they will nail Brady's successor in the draft.

 

[letekro]

Amazingly enough, this thread has gone downhill.

:bricks:

Everything in my post is obvious to anyone that has watched Brady and Mallett play. Mallett is an extraordinarily gifted deep ball and touch ball thrower. Brady, for all his excellent qualities, is just not. For the most part, he is only accurate when he can put the ball on a line (the recent end zone lob to KT being a recent, rare exception)

Also, Brady cannot be accurate unless he can step into his throws. Mallett can be accurate throwing off the run, flat-footed, or even off of his back foot.

Does any of this mean Mallett will be the better QB? Not by a long shot. But didn't I say that in my post as well? So, I'm not sure what you're taking issue with? Drew Bledsoe was more talented than TB as well, although he was nowhere near the QB (although I think that is because he didn't put the work in, which is the opposite of what we have seen with Mallett)

 

[Froob]

We don't even have a qb on practice squad do we? Mallett is the only one who knows the offense after Brady aside from possibly Edelman(from a QB stand point).

 

[sb1]

Everything in my post is obvious to anyone that has watched Brady and Mallett play. Mallett is an extraordinarily gifted deep ball and touch ball thrower. Brady, for all his excellent qualities, is just not. For the most part, he is only accurate when he can put the ball on a line (the recent end zone lob to KT being a recent, rare exception)

Also, Brady cannot be accurate unless he can step into his throws. Mallett can be accurate throwing off the run, flat-footed, or even off of his back foot.

Does any of this mean Mallett will be the better QB? Not by a long shot. But didn't I say that in my post as well? So, I'm not sure what you're taking issue with? Drew Bledsoe was more talented than TB as well, although he was nowhere near the QB (although I think that is because he didn't put the work in, which is the opposite of what we have seen with Mallett)

Tom Brady was drafted as a catcher in the 1995 MLB draft. And as a natural baseball catcher he has to be good at throwing darts to the basemen.

Perhaps that explains a lot about his accuracy throwing the deep ball over his career. It's not that he can't throw the rainbow pass deep...he can. It's just not where his natural talent is, and he is one of the very best at throwing the dart. His arm strength is excellent and throwing the dart pass is where it really shines.

 

[patsfanboy]

I think Mallet will go the same path as Hoyer, we will put a tag on him then when no one wants him and after we pay a lot for a back up, we might end up cutting him.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

We don't even have a qb on practice squad do we? Mallett is the only one who knows the offense after Brady aside from possibly Edelman(from a QB stand point).

And in a rare moment reflecting disguised candor, Tom Brady made fun of Edelman's non-extstant QB skills a week or two ago.

Insanity.
Unless Mallet got us a #1 or high #2 (I know, I know) and we were able to say get Cassel for a 7th, I'd keep Mallet. Nobody will offer this. And we DO need a backup who can play for a couple series, couple quarters and possibly a couple games. Just look at the QB attrition around the league this year. Were TFB to go down for a brief interval it would be nice to not be knocked out of the playoffs because we lost a game a game manager could have won.

 

[upstater1]

When Tom Brady retires, this fanbase will have a meltdown. Can you imagine the threads about QB play?

 

[Huckleberry1]

Neither do the Tebow haters.

None of those who wanted Tebow released have started threads or brought him up in a long time, there's no point in it, however the Tebowites will never let the idea of him being a Patriot drop, as we saw here. Imo the fact that Tebow preferred taking 2 million to play games in Russsia over going to the CFL or AFL to work on his "skills" demonstrated that he really has no interest in working for an NFL job but that one should simply be given to him instead, unless he simply gave up on the idea altogether.

 

[letekro]

When Tom Brady retires, this fanbase will have a meltdown. Can you imagine the threads about QB play?

Brady will be cut or traded before he retires. There will be no meltdown if his successor is good.

 

[Kdo5]

Why is Mallet seen as a valuable trade item? He's never looked particularly good in any of his preseason appearances.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Anyone who watched the Vikings play last night has to be thinking that Mallett is better than anyone they have! Freeman was awful! Granted, I'm not sure that throwing him in there with only a weeks worth of practice did him any favors, but he looked terrible! YOu have to feel bad to Peterson, he is quickly joining the Larry Fitzgerald club, of great players whoses numbers and accomplishments are greatly detered by the horrific offenses they play in! Minnesota basically has already given up on Ponder, they threw Freeman to the wovles, Cassel has been inconsistant at best. What a mess!!

I think Mallett would be better than at least half the starting QBs in the NFL right now (given first team reps, not right now). His college career was sidetracked by the regime change at Michigan, so he had to transfer to Arkansas. But anyone who watched college football, could tell you that the defenses that Mallett played against in the SEC, were pretty good.

All that being said, OK Minny here's the trade:

Mallett and Ridley for Peterson and Cassel

 

[Boogs]

None of those who wanted Tebow released have started threads or brought him up in a long time, there's no point in it, however the Tebowites will never let the idea of him being a Patriot drop, as we saw here. Imo the fact that Tebow preferred taking 2 million to play games in Russsia over going to the CFL or AFL to work on his "skills" demonstrated that he really has no interest in working for an NFL job but that one should simply be given to him instead, unless he simply gave up on the idea altogether.

It's funny you're still so offended by the mention of his name. Manxman is right.

 

[Peachhead]

I'm not crazy about Mallett. But he's our only backup. Just about anyone I could think of that's available (off the street) would be a huge downgrade. Plus, a new guy would have to learn the system. One in particular just ain't ever gonna happen. If BB saw any potential there he would have kept him.

So unless the trade included a young backup with potential I can't ever see it happening. And if the QB needy teams had a "young backup with potential" to trade us they wouldn't need Mallett.

 

[Huckleberry1]

It's funny you're still so offended by the mention of his name. Manxman is right.

He had his chance, he blew it, that's his problem not ours.

 

[BradyFTW!]

The only team that I could only see even thinking about trading for Mallett is the Browns. Weeden's terrible and isn't going to get any better, and they already experienced some success with Brady's old backup. They wouldn't be trading for him right now, but rather for the future. Even that's a huge longshot, though. This draft class is too QB-rich to trade for a guy who's this far into his rookie contract.

The Colts and Seahawks have shown that one of the fastest ways to become competitive is to draft a pro-ready QB and build around the salary cap advantage that you get from having an upper-tier QB at rookie wage scale cap hits. As a result, I think you'll see teams being even more inclined than before to look to the draft for the answer, rather than trading. In the old cap era, when drafting your QB just meant you got the privilege of paying someone like Sam Bradford a franchise QB contract, it would have made a lot more sense.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Everything in my post is obvious to anyone that has watched Brady and Mallett play. Mallett is an extraordinarily gifted deep ball and touch ball thrower. Brady, for all his excellent qualities, is just not. For the most part, he is only accurate when he can put the ball on a line (the recent end zone lob to KT being a recent, rare exception)

Also, Brady cannot be accurate unless he can step into his throws. Mallett can be accurate throwing off the run, flat-footed, or even off of his back foot.

Does any of this mean Mallett will be the better QB? Not by a long shot. But didn't I say that in my post as well? So, I'm not sure what you're taking issue with? Drew Bledsoe was more talented than TB as well, although he was nowhere near the QB (although I think that is because he didn't put the work in, which is the opposite of what we have seen with Mallett)

I won't bother debating the many other points you brought up so that I can focus on the main issue.

You have to understand that most of the talent required by a QB is between the ears. The vast majority of us are not born with what it takes mentally to be a top-level QB. No matter how many physical skills you may have, without the mental ability - make that capability - to read defenses and make decisions in a split second, you'll never be a top-level NFL QB. The examples of this are legion.

Make no mistake about this, the capability of doing this is a God-given talent that few have. It is nurtured and developed just like many of the physical skills you comment on, but it is the critical talent in a QB. That's why the bottom rated talent in physical skills in 30 years of an NFL combine can be touted by some as the greatest of all time - because decision making is the defining attribute of an NFL QB.