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Defense has to win us this game...

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We are all talking about the offense and it's depletion, and rightfully so. To me, this offense is horrible aside from Brady and Ridley (fumbles and all) and a few others. Now, that doesn't mean I have absolutely no faith in the coaches to put something together to beat the Jets, but to me, this game needs to be won by the defense.

With the Jets notoriously having bad offenses, this has to be the better way, for now. Until Gronk gets back, Amendola can stay on the field and the rookies grasp this offense, the defense will be needed greatly. With turnovers and solid play, they could really give the offense time to heal, time to improve and place them in a good position to make something happen. I just can't believe we are in this situation. Last season, we had the best offenses in the league, now, one of the worst. The injuries can't be helped and in no one's fault, but it is what it is.

Defense needs to rock out!
 
Yup, as is being discussed in another thread, it's time for this D full of high picks and veterans with an HofF "defensive genius" coach to shine.

I'm calling it now: two TDs by the defense (one on a blocked punt by Jamie Collins).
 
We are all talking about the offense and it's depletion, and rightfully so. To me, this offense is horrible

OP .. Do you realize the offense produced over 400 something yards? Only 6 times in the entire league had more ..
 
The offense, despite Amendola being hobbled, benching their top RB, and having their #2 RB playing with a broken wrist from the first play on, managed to gain the 7th most yards and score the 17th most points (middle of the pack). To call them "One of the worst" is absurd.

Look, I want the defense to step up this week too, but let's not take one week's worth of data and suddenly claim this offense can't win us a game against the Jets if it comes to it.
 
The offense, despite Amendola being hobbled, benching their top RB, and having their #2 RB playing with a broken wrist from the first play on, managed to gain the 7th most yards and score the 17th most points (middle of the pack). To call them "One of the worst" is absurd.

Look, I want the defense to step up this week too, but let's not take one week's worth of data and suddenly claim this offense can't win us a game against the Jets if it comes to it.

It was clearly an exaggeration my friend. I'm just pissed right now that we've come to this. And that's cool, we scored decently against the Bills. The Jets won't be as easy, Falcons, Saints, Texans, etc.

I sure hope something happens.
 
OP .. Do you realize the offense produced over 400 something yards? Only 6 times in the entire league had more ..

I did say "aside from Brady and Ridley (fumbles and all) and a few others"...

Look, I know what stats say, who cares? We BARELY beat the Bills. Why? Because we don't have viable weapons on offense.

Defense has to step up, I liked the way they looked last week. Hopefully, they can continue that.
 
It was clearly an exaggeration my friend. I'm just pissed right now that we've come to this. And that's cool, we scored decently against the Bills. The Jets won't be as easy, Falcons, Saints, Texans, etc.

I sure hope something happens.

Exaggerations usually mean your point wouldn't be valid without fudging the facts a little. If you've got a point, make it. Don't dress it up.

I did say "aside from Brady and Ridley (fumbles and all) and a few others"...

Look, I know what stats say, who cares? We BARELY beat the Bills. Why? Because we don't have viable weapons on offense.

Defense has to step up, I liked the way they looked last week. Hopefully, they can continue that.

Do they not have viable weapons? Or did the viable weapons not all play well in week one? Personally I'd like to see the four rookies play more than one week (or in Dobson and to a lesser extent Sudfeld's cases, at least one week), before I say these weapons aren't viable.
 
I did say "aside from Brady and Ridley (fumbles and all) and a few others"...

Look, I know what stats say, who cares? We BARELY beat the Bills. Why? Because we turned the ball over twice inside their 30, once for a TD the other way.

Defense has to step up, I liked the way they looked last week. Hopefully, they can continue that.

Fixed that for you. Your posts are filled with overreactions, how do you expect people to distinguish those from your exaggerations?
 
I did say "aside from Brady and Ridley (fumbles and all) and a few others"...

Look, I know what stats say, who cares? We BARELY beat the Bills. Why? Because we don't have viable weapons on offense.

Defense has to step up, I liked the way they looked last week. Hopefully, they can continue that.

No, it was close because of turnovers, they moved the ball well most of the game, TO's killed scoring drives.
 
Judy batista puts it aptly about our offensive expectations.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...es-and-of-course-tim-tebow-head-debut-mailbag
Having said that, we've seen the New England Patriots look a lot crisper than they did in their last-second, 23-21 victory over the Buffalo Bills. Integrating all those new faces at the skill positions clearly affected Tom Brady's rhythm, and the Patriots, as always, suffer from comparison -- to themselves. Anytime they are not bludgeoning an opponent, we think something is wrong. Still, considering Rob Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez and Wes Welker weren't there, the starting running back was benched for fumbling and Danny Amendola was hobbled, a game-winning drive against a division opponent -- on the road -- is impressive.

Its time to win a few 17-13 games 2003 style.
 
Fixed that for you. Your posts are filled with overreactions, how do you expect people to distinguish those from your exaggerations?

Seriously that Brady fumble was a very rare thing and Ridley's fumble, the guy was in full sprint trying to make a cut and slipped and completely lost his footing and landed sideways on the arm that had the football which knocked it loose.

Those two mistakes go the Pats way and the score is maybe 30-14.
 
I still feel OL can be the difference as always. If they give Brady time to throw, he'll get it done with Edelman, Thompkins, and hopefully some of the other targets stepping up. Not saying he will duplicate this performance, but he showed back in 2006 (@ Minnesota) he can still carve up a defense if there is ample time to throw, even if Doug Gabriel and Reche Caldwell are his main targets.

As much as I want to see us win with shutdown defense, I don't think we have the personnel for that yet. I'd say the bigger keys are not turning the ball over and OL as I mentioned. Without DA and Vereen we won't get away with having those breakdowns again like last week.
 
This game, against this Jets defense, could prove to be tough sledding for Tom and company. Of paramount importance is how our OL matches up against the Jets DL.

I could see a low scoring game upcoming where field position and turnover's are key.
 
Who knows.

Lets just hope they get some players back.

Agreed, and lets also hope that others don't replace them on the injury report.

In the meantime I'm going to sit back and enjoy watching the games. As long as BB is the coach and/or TB is the QB I figure the Pats will play good, competitive football. As a fan that's all I really want, and honestly I welcome a season where every loss doesn't seem like abject failure and every win is just expected. Sometimes it feels as a fan base we're all whiteknuckling it through the regular season and forget that the point of this is enjoyment.
 
Something that appears to have gone missing is the fact that the Patriots Defense could have easily had 3 or 4 interceptions against the Bills in Week 1. Let's hope that is replicated and executed in Week 2.
 
Minimum 5 turnovers for Geno. Buttfumblechez will be back as the Jests starter by week 3
 
We are all talking about the offense and it's depletion, and rightfully so. To me, this offense is horrible aside from Brady and Ridley (fumbles and all) and a few others. Now, that doesn't mean I have absolutely no faith in the coaches to put something together to beat the Jets, but to me, this game needs to be won by the defense.

With the Jets notoriously having bad offenses, this has to be the better way, for now. Until Gronk gets back, Amendola can stay on the field and the rookies grasp this offense, the defense will be needed greatly. With turnovers and solid play, they could really give the offense time to heal, time to improve and place them in a good position to make something happen. I just can't believe we are in this situation. Last season, we had the best offenses in the league, now, one of the worst. The injuries can't be helped and in no one's fault, but it is what it is.

Defense needs to rock out!

That "horrible" offense put up more yards than last year's Pats team did in 7 of their regular season games.

Granted, they won't have Amendola or Vereen for awhile but to call the offense "horrible" is laughable.
 
How can you call this offense horrible after 1 game when we haven't even seen all the rookies play? Last year people were saying the same thing after the Cardinals game.
 
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