Cole Was Cut To Add Incentives

[mgteich]

Cole has a minimum contract (as before). Now there are minor incentives (e.g. $95K if he plays 25% of the defensive reps). They shouldn't be reached, but Cole is a player who is staying.

 

[dales804]

No way. The Patriots are cheap and would never do this.

 

[signbabybrady]

Cole has a minimum contract (as before). Now there are minor incentives (e.g. $95K if he plays 25% of the defensive reps). They shouldn't be reached, but Cole is a player who is staying.

That doesnt seem like a unreachable number. Depending on how you compare him to Ryan he could be 4 or 5 on the depth chart but dont forget that Dennard is both hurt and due in court. If you put him ahead of Ryan for now and assume Dennard misses 4 games due to injury or jail than it would almost be a lock for Cole to hit %25 amassing half that probably in the first 4 weeks.

Lets hope Dennard can get healthy and avoid missing time and lets also hope the rookie showed enough to be ahead of him and it will be tough for him to reach %25.

But none of that takes into account injuries to anyone other than Dennard.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I actually like this (keeping Cole). You never want him to be a regular contributor on D, but if two guys ahead of him get hurt, you could do worse.

Still want them to add one more corner, but at this point I'm skeptical that they're going to.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

This may sound silly, but couldn't they have just modified his contract to add incentives rather than cut him and resign him with the incentives? Does modifying an existing contract make it ineligible for the veteran's minimum cap charge?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

This may sound silly, but (A) couldn't they have just modified his contract to add incentives rather than cut him and resign him with the incentives? (B) Does modifying an existing contract make it ineligible for the veteran's minimum cap charge?

(A) No. Vet minimum contracts cannot be renegotiated during the season.
(B) Not necessarily. In this case, it does: the limit for additional compensation is $65,000. Cole's incentives max out at $285,000.

So Cole's new contract is no longer eligible for the "Minimum Salary Benefit."

 

[Hammer of Thor]

(A) No. Vet minimum contracts cannot be renegotiated during the season.
(B) Not necessarily. In this case, it does: the limit for additional compensation is $65,000. Cole's incentives max out at $285,000.

So Cole's new contract is no longer eligible for the "Minimum Salary Benefit."

Thanks, good to learn something new!

 

[patriot lifer]

I actually like this (keeping Cole). You never want him to be a regular contributor on D, but if two guys ahead of him get hurt, you could do worse.

Still want them to add one more corner, but at this point I'm skeptical that they're going to.

I'm right there with you. As a fifth CB, he needs to primarily be a ST player. At least as a defensive player, he has experience for when he is called upon.

9 out of 10 times fans will complain about the coverage abilities of the #5 on the depth chart. If we lost the SB in '04, we'd all be complaining about Earthwind.

 

[Mack Herron]

I like Cole. Would even suggest he's better than some of the guys who manned the position in 2001. Then again, I like Ebner too.

 

[Brady6]

Cole has a minimum contract (as before). Now there are minor incentives (e.g. $95K if he plays 25% of the defensive reps). They shouldn't be reached, but Cole is a player who is staying.

I think it was more likely he was cut, and when they asked for his return his agent requested additional $$ and in order to meet the demand the team made the decision to center it around playing time so they wouldn’t have to guarantee it.

 

[Ive_Killed_People]

Cole Cuts....heh heh

 

[Miguel]

I think it was more likely he was cut, and when they asked for his return his agent requested additional $$ and in order to meet the demand the team made the decision to center it around playing time so they wouldn’t have to guarantee it.

That is what I think, also.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

That is what I think, also.

If he had remained unsigned for more than 24 hours, I would tend to agree, but he was cut one day and then re-signed the next, and the Pats didn't add a viable DB in his place. [And, no, the "anticipated Cooper waiver claim" theory doesn't work, because you don't have to clear room ahead of being awarded the player.]

 

[cstjohn17]

I think it was more likely he was cut, and when they asked for his return his agent requested additional $$ and in order to meet the demand the team made the decision to center it around playing time so they wouldn’t have to guarantee it.

I think it is called negotiation or something, the Patriots didn't do this to be nice to M Cole.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

This homer hopes Cole does some things to make all of us glad he's on the 53. Best wishes to him in his football career.

 

[condon84]

What if another team claimed him off waivers? If they viewed Cole as a valuable player, they wouldn't have exposed him the way they did.

It's more like they cut him, thought they could add certain players that were also cut from other teams but they missed out on in the waivers. Cole turned out to be the best available from the scrap heap, re-signed him but his agent re-negotiated the contract.

 

[The Scrizz]

Cole has a minimum contract (as before). Now there are minor incentives (e.g. $95K if he plays 25% of the defensive reps). They shouldn't be reached, but Cole is a player who is staying.

How does a guy who has been cut and makes the minimum = staying? I'm not saying he won't stay but using his crappy contract as proof that he is makes no sense.

The Pats have been known to pay premiums for PS players that they really wanted to keep. If Cole really pumped BB's nads, I think he'd have been treated slightly differently.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

What if another team claimed him off waivers? If they viewed Cole as a valuable player, they wouldn't have exposed him the way they did.

(A) Unrestricted FAs do not pass through waivers prior to the trade deadline, so that point is moot.
(B) Vet minimum contracts cannot be renegotiated, period.

 

[condon84]

(A) Unrestricted FAs do not pass through waivers prior to the trade deadline, so that point is moot.
(B) Vet minimum contracts cannot be renegotiated, period.

If other teams wanted to sign him, they would have been able to right? So if the Pats really did use this exercise to just renegotiate his contract, they did so in a risky manner. Luckily, no other team thought he was worth a roster spot.

 

[Brady6]

I think it is called negotiation or something, the Patriots didn't do this to be nice to M Cole.

Yeah I didn't say they did it to be nice, they did it to sign him to the best deal in the teams eyes. I'm not sure what I said to imply I felt otherwise, but I hope this clarifies my position on this matter.