Hernandez worth a fourth round pick?

[FredFromDartmouth]

Hell yes! I don't think that the Patriots screwed up one bit. They knew that he was a risk and they got a lot of capital for the draft pick. The Hernandez era is over but it did not cost the Patriots much and they have depth at the position. Time to move on.

 

[Bruins29]

Hell yes! I don't think that the Patriots screwed up one bit. They knew that he was a risk and they got a lot of capital for the draft pick. The Hernandez era is over but it did not cost the Patriots much and they have depth at the position. Time to move on.

Fred! That is the best post you have ever made. I knew you had it in you. Too bad this is going to end bad. Unfortunately the whole world is just looking for ammo to after the pats. Even if AH is completely cleared we will be a team with a Murderer on it. We will never ever hear the end of it just like Rapistbuger and Lewis, and any team with Vick etc...

Oh well. Nobody liked us anyway.

All I can say is thank God Stallworth was not on the team in 09.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

The pick is not an issue at all for me, but what are the financial reprecussions? I don't feel like sifting through a thousand pages of AH threads to find the answer but if we part ways with him how much dead cap is he carrying? If we're taking hits in that department for the remainder of the contract, the answer is an easy EFFFF NO, even if he was an UDFA 'moving on' would not be as easy as you're making it sound.

 

[truk83]

Absolutely, it was worth it. You couldn't possibly have predicted this kind of outcome, which is pretty unprecedented. Even among the NFL's worst of the worst, this is extremely rare. I mean maybe you could have predicted him being suspended for a banned substance, but for this? No way. Everyone who's second guessing is just doing it in hindsight.

 

[Archeryaddict12]

Sorry for being a d*ck but when did we get rid of him/ he is not playing for us?

 

[Bruins29]

Sorry for being a d*ck but when did we get rid of him/ he is not playing for us?

As optimistic as I think we would all like to be (except the lynch mob contingent here) I dont see him coming back. Of course that is just my gut. I mean he would have to come of of this smelling like a rose in order to escape being done as pat.

This situation is pretty unprecedented and I can't see Kraft being happy if it is proven he was involved in any way.

If AH came out unscathed would the Pats still keep him? So, its really 3 issues. His guilt or innocence, the pats decision after that ruling and then the NFL's decision.

Oh look another AH thread.

 

[Mack Herron]

He's already given more than most 4th rounders so the pick yeah, but not the new contract (with a $7.5M cap hit next year).

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

He's already given more than most 4th rounders so the pick yeah, but not the new contract (with a $7.5M cap hit next year).

That cap hit must be the ONLY thing that is keeping him on the team right now...

but all the douchebags in the press don't seem to understand that the Patriots were very smart about this kid (except for the contract); they got a lot of mileage out of this fourth rounder. He was worth the risk.

 

[SB39]

These mediots that are trying to make it sound like the Patriots wasted a 4th round pick need to get a clue. This was a 4th round pick, not a 1st. I checked and in Hernandez's draft class, only 1 other 4th rounder besides Hernandez has been to the Pro-Bowl. Even if Hernandez never plays another down again, the career he has had already will made him probably in the top 3 of his draft class's 4th round.

Nobody is asking if the Cowboys wasted a pick by selecting the immortal Akwasi Owusu-Ansah. I'd rather have 3 years of Aaron Hernandez than 10 years of Trevard Lindley, Alterraun Verner or Eric Norwood (not to say any of those guys will be playing 10 years).

 

[Froob]

I'd say so, was a pretty big part in the 2011 team that almost took home the lombardi. He hasn't been cut or suspended yet so I'll wait til he's convicted to get into that.

 

[Deus Irae]

Hell yes! I don't think that the Patriots screwed up one bit. They knew that he was a risk and they got a lot of capital for the draft pick. The Hernandez era is over but it did not cost the Patriots much and they have depth at the position. Time to move on.

I missed the guilty verdict and sentencing hearing. How many years did he get?

 

[West Philly Patriot]

I missed the guilty verdict and sentencing hearing. How many years did he get?

Life in solitary confinement reading Fred from Dartmouth's game-day thread posts.

 

[Bruins29]

AH gave us Terry Glenn production on a year by year basis. Not bad for a TE

 

[TriplecHamp]

another 10 star legendary thread from fred.

 

[Bruins29]

another 10 star legendary thread from fred.

That was the first post I have ever seen from him that was positive about the team so I was giving him props.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

The title is even dumber than the thread

I myself thought at first glance that Fred was already thinking the team can deal Hernandez to another team for a future 4th round pick now.

 

[Get it shawtaay]

These mediots that are trying to make it sound like the Patriots wasted a 4th round pick need to get a clue. This was a 4th round pick, not a 1st. I checked and in Hernandez's draft class, only 1 other 4th rounder besides Hernandez has been to the Pro-Bowl. Even if Hernandez never plays another down again, the career he has had already will made him probably in the top 3 of his draft class's 4th round.

Nobody is asking if the Cowboys wasted a pick by selecting the immortal Akwasi Owusu-Ansah. I'd rather have 3 years of Aaron Hernandez than 10 years of Trevard Lindley, Alterraun Verner or Eric Norwood (not to say any of those guys will be playing 10 years).

Don't hate on Alterraun Verner. He's a good player with a long career ahead of him.

 

[Archeryaddict12]

I missed the guilty verdict and sentencing hearing. How many years did he get?

This group has to be the most uninformed board. I thought pats fans were sane, not insane like the jets. Am I on the right forum here?

 

[Salva135]

Absolutely, it was worth it. You couldn't possibly have predicted this kind of outcome, which is pretty unprecedented. Even among the NFL's worst of the worst, this is extremely rare. I mean maybe you could have predicted him being suspended for a banned substance, but for this? No way. Everyone who's second guessing is just doing it in hindsight.

+1 and basically sums it up. Pats got screwed, by most metrics the pick and extension were a great decision up until last Tuesday. All of this ex post facto judgement is simply sensationalist.

 

[vyrago]

Absolutely, it was worth it. You couldn't possibly have predicted this kind of outcome, which is pretty unprecedented. Even among the NFL's worst of the worst, this is extremely rare. I mean maybe you could have predicted him being suspended for a banned substance, but for this? No way. Everyone who's second guessing is just doing it in hindsight.

What is "this?" and where did you find out what "this" is?