Interesting: Kraft Group Making a bid for the Globe?

[QuantumMechanic]

My hope is that more media starts to gravitate back to the middle and targeting the crazy concept of reporting facts and the truth. No spin, no bull.

That wasn't, isn't, and never will be true.

The media should go back to the 19th and early 20th century approach of proudly trumpeting who they are in the tank for, rather than the subsequent approach of still being totally in the tank, but trying to fool people into thinking they aren't.

 

[CelticPatriot]

Not to turn this into a thread slagging newspapers. But the Print media is a dying art. People don't trust them, and rightly so. They do ANYTHING to ANYONE to fulfil their twisted agendas.

Tabloids: don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

 

[Tunescribe]

Not to turn this into a thread slagging newspapers. But the Print media is a dying art. People don't trust them, and rightly so. They do ANYTHING to ANYONE to fulfil their twisted agendas.

Tabloids: don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Don't confuse tabloids with real newspapers. Generally speaking, print journalism remains the most reputable and reliable of all media. Broadcast media -- radio and television -- have comparatively little integrity. Forget the Internet.

 

[Jackson 2]

Don't confuse tabloids with real newspapers. Generally speaking, print journalism remains the most reputable and reliable of all media. Broadcast media -- radio and television -- have comparatively little integrity. Forget the Internet.

Correct. For a recent case in point, just reflect back on the Marathon events. Every rumor seemed to be related by TV and Internet outlets as fact. When they were proven wrong, which was most of the time, there were no apologies or excuses offered. It was just on to the next instance of taking a rumor and presenting it as a fact.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I use the term "credible reporting" to mean a source like the Globe.. of course the news channels were all over themselves reporting a lot of misinformation as you point out, especially FOX jumping the gun on posting a picture of the alleged backpack.

The Globe reported none of those things, AFAIK.

The Globe was like its old self reporting on this issue. Sadly, their excellent coverage was an outlier, atypical.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Don't confuse tabloids with real newspapers. Generally speaking, print journalism remains the most reputable and reliable of all media. Broadcast media -- radio and television -- have comparatively little integrity. Forget the Internet.

Could not disagree more. The Internet has covered issues totally suppressed by the mainstream media (big newspapers and the major TV networks) that later became news stories. I am not saying that every moronic news source on the Internet is to be treated as credible, but the Internet per se has exposed the mainstream media for the agenda driven frauds they are, spiking news they don't like and acting as PR agencies for those they do like.

 

[Reckedtrek]

You speak for an entire generation?

Maybe he can now tell them to pull up their fcuking pants, then. Talk about loss of credibility!

 

[Reckedtrek]

Synovia, is your generation the one that "occupies" streets and thinks people with jobs should pay your generation's bills for them because the older generations have money that they actually worked for?

 

[ausbacker]

What's Ron Burgundy's take on all this?

 

[Tunescribe]

Could not disagree more. The Internet has covered issues totally suppressed by the mainstream media (big newspapers and the major TV networks) that later became news stories. I am not saying that every moronic news source on the Internet is to be treated as credible, but the Internet per se has exposed the mainstream media for the agenda driven frauds they are, spiking news they don't like and acting as PR agencies for those they do like.

PWP, we need reliable mainstream media for the who/what/when/where and why of current events. Broadcast media -- TV and radio -- most often lapses into entertainment/sensationalism to grab audiences and ratings. True journalistic integrity is what's needed by the public to separate wheat from chaff and the best, in terms of schooling and training, is in the print realm. I'm talking the Globe, Washington Post, Time Magazine, etc., and those of similar ilk.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I used to believe that. I no longer do. They abdicated reportage for agenda journalism decades ago.

 

[fair catch fryar]

That wasn't, isn't, and never will be true.

The media should go back to the 19th and early 20th century approach of proudly trumpeting who they are in the tank for, rather than the subsequent approach of still being totally in the tank, but trying to fool people into thinking they aren't.

Depends on who and what you're listening to and if you're actually listening. Sure, in the past most newspapers had their political leanings depending on who owned them, but "most" also had the where-with-all to allow their staff to work independently to find a story, investigate it, and report the truth even if it exposed corruption for whichever side of the fence they sat on politically and/or ideologically. It was solely about selling papers and turning a profit. These days it's more about controlling what people see, hear, and think by twisting the truth as much as you can get away with. People have to be savvy enough to see through the BS and arm themselves with the facts and make their own educated conclusions. Unfortunately, society doesn't do that and most want it quick and easy. I don't know if it is so much that people are being fooled as much as they don't give a crap and just want the condensed version of everything and would rather read bulleted points instead of the content.

 

[fair catch fryar]

I would love to read your analysis of the NYT and WaPo

What do you want me to say? They lean to the left as much as the WSJ leans to the right. I read them all along with others and pick out what I think is bias and what I think is substance.

 

[RayClay]

As has been said, the prices have probably come way down and a Newspaper like the Globe is a powerful brand. It's a media buy that surely will go beyond paper and ink.

 

[AzorianPats]

you said that police were surrounding the boat 6 hours before TV news reported it, not that there may be some sketchy boats in backyards somewhere that a guy could hide in.

TV news reported Police shooting at the boat right after 7PM.

So your initial story was cops surrounding the boat at 1PM.

The guy who called the cops clearly states it happened well after 6PM.

This isn't rocket science dude. You can say it: "I was wrong"

Not hard!

He was wrong about police surrounding the boat 6 hours before, but everything else he was spot on. Because of the police scanners news was breaking out on social media WAY before local news station and papers were reporting it.

 

[AzorianPats]

If the Kraft group purchases the globe its a huge win for Patriots and football fans all over the region. Better football coverage and less bull **** Red Sox news getting forced. Just further stamps Boston/New England being a Patriots town.

 

[Uncle Rico]

I used to believe that. I no longer do. They abdicated reportage for agenda journalism decades ago.

Many decades ago. There's always been journalism — true reporting with context and accountability — and "journalism" — agenda-driven gotcha stuff that has a place but has become too much the norm. Our job, as always and with any info that comes at us in life, is to discern what's credible and worth our emotional and intellectual investment. Skepticism is a useful skill, not sure cynicism is.

What do you want me to say? They lean to the left as much as the WSJ leans to the right. I read them all along with others and pick out what I think is bias and what I think is substance.

Exactly. And even though this has always been the case media in general is so omnipresent today (perhaps because it's profitable?) and immediate that people often fail to make the distinction between news/fact and opinion. We see it here all the time, and less reputable "news" organizations play on that laziness.

As has been said, the prices have probably come way down and a Newspaper like the Globe is a powerful brand. It's a media buy that surely will go beyond paper and ink.

Yup. Which brings us back to: Could be a savvy investment for someone like Kraft. I actually doubt it will get too far, just a hunch, but the fact that someone like that is kicking the tires — and that you're starting to see more "newspaper" sales in general — is interesting.

 

[goheels22002]

Bob Kraft is not a newspaper man. It is a business in a dramatic transformation of the whole business model, and one in which it is very difficult to make money. The Boston Globe will distract him from his core business and the Patriots. I hope the Taylors re-acquire the Globe.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Bob Kraft is not a newspaper man. It is a business in a dramatic transformation of the whole business model, and one in which it is very difficult to make money. The Boston Globe will distract him from his core business and the Patriots. I hope the Taylors re-acquire the Globe.

Globe would be a major distraction for Kraft and a black hole for cash. Given that Kraft allows the awful pre and post game radio show hosts, etc. for the Pats year after year why would anyone assume he'd purge the Globe of its anti-Pats Red Sox uber alles columnists like the CHB?

 

[resdubwhite]

Globe would be a major distraction for Kraft and a black hole for cash. Given that Kraft allows the awful pre and post game radio show hosts, etc. for the Pats year after year why would anyone assume he'd purge the Globe of its anti-Pats Red Sox uber alles columnists like the CHB?

probably and for some strange reason. some people think the CHB is the GLOBE.

I know. I'm gagging too. He surely is the prime example of an agenda driven journalist. And his agenda is to be to have a contrary point of view to everyone else. It gets tired very quickly.