Patriots Injury News Gronk On the Verge of another setback?

[Huckleberry1]

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seriously that's what the nightmare was like "Patritos rob gronkoski dies due to complications of infection on forearm, more at 11"

Well, in all fairness to Brady_to_Moss Rob Gronkowski may or may not have died from his infection last night, we still don't know, and that in and of itself is certainly newsworthy.


We do know, however, that he is dead to you.........................

 

[Rob0729]

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You simply cannot admit when you are wrong, Rosenhaus is actually confirming yesterdays NEWS that Rob Gronkowski may or may not need more surgery.

Huh?!? Yes, I cannot admit I am wrong. Borges reported that Gronk would DEFINITELY need a fourth surgery and possibly a fifth story (which he reiterated on 98.5 this morning). Rosenhaus said Gronk MAY need another surgery, but nothing is scheduled and it isn't a definite possibility.

I am a stubborn SOB and refuse to admit where Rosenhaus said that surgery is a possibilty just proves that he is definitely getting a fourth surgery and most likely going to have a fifth surgery.

Here is the direct quote from Borges' piece:

Doctors treating Gronkowski will have to go back into the arm again to remove the plate and install a new one, but if they find more infected tissue, they would be unable to install the plate at that time. That would require another surgical procedure after the tissue around the injury is clear of infection and, sources confirmed, that would not give Gronkowski the required 10 weeks healing time to be ready for the season opener in September.

Gronkowski, agent Drew Rosenhaus, team officials, both team physicians and outside consultants are expected to meet within a week to make a determination of what step will be taken next and how quickly to move. All are hopeful the pesky infection has been cured but they cannot be sure until the surgery to remove the old plate and the process to replace it begins.

Again, Rosenhaus is denying much of Borges' story because Borges wrote that the fourth surgery is definite and a fifth story is possible. Rosenhaus is saying no decisions have been made. Also, Rosenhaus is denying that Gronk missing the start of the season is in jeopardy at this point.

Apparently the problem here is your reading comprehension, not my stubbornness.

BTW, I don't typically believe agents especially Rosenhaus. That is why I put FWIW at the beginning of the post. I don't take his word at face value only that he refutes much of what Borges is claiming.

 

[Mack Herron]

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Sure looks like a conflict between Rosenhaus and Borges:

Rosenhaus cautioned that no decision has been made on another procedure for the 24-year old tight end at this time.

"Right now we’ve got plenty of time until the season starts, whether he needs another operation, what that operation will entail, that’s very preliminary," he continued. "That type of speculation is way off, no determinations have been made, there’s no surgery scheduled and we’re not even sure if he’s gonna need one."

Gronk's agent on possible surgery - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

 

[Huckleberry1]

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Huh?!? Yes, I cannot admit I am wrong. Borges reported that Gronk would DEFINITELY need a fourth surgery and possibly a fifth story (which he reiterated on 98.5 this morning). Rosenhaus said Gronk MAY need another surgery, but nothing is scheduled and it isn't a definite possibility.

I am a stubborn SOB and refuse to admit where Rosenhaus said that surgery is a possibilty just proves that he is definitely getting a fourth surgery and most likely going to have a fifth surgery.

Here is the direct quote from Borges' piece:



Again, Rosenhaus is denying much of Borges' story because Borges wrote that the fourth surgery is definite and a fifth story is possible. Rosenhaus is saying no decisions have been made. Also, Rosenhaus is denying that Gronk missing the start of the season is in jeopardy at this point.

Apparently the problem here is your reading comprehension, not my stubbornness.

BTW, I don't typically believe agents especially Rosenhaus. That is why I put FWIW at the beginning of the post. I don't take his word at face value only that he refutes much of what Borges is claiming.

Sorry I made you go to so much work responding, I was joking. I thought it would be obvious.

 

[Rob0729]

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Sorry I made you go to so much work responding, I was joking. I thought it would be obvious.

Sorry, long night last night. Not picking up on much today.

Unfortunately, many people would respond like that on this board and be 100% serious.

 

[Huckleberry1]

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Sorry, long night last night. Not picking up on much today.

Unfortunately, many people would respond like that on this board and be 100% serious.

Really, I can't believe anyone here would be that much of a ****........

I know you can't say when you're wrong i get it...you have always been like this

 

[Froob]

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newsflash


rob gronkowski dies of infection



more at 6

Erika Leigh is reporting this as well. Gronkowski's agent Drew Rosenhaus is denying his client is dead. Saying they he's not heard anything about that. Coach Bill Belichick was reached for comment this morning saying Gronk's status is "day to day" and "a lot of player right now are hurt, I can't say weather he'll live or weather he'll be out there tomorrow. One day we think a guy is a goner and the next day he catches 3 touchdowns. So we'll just going to take it day by day."

 

[BrickPat]

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As long as Gronk has a different agent than Welker...

It's too early to say how this will play out but I'm concerend that through no fault of his own Gronk is snake bit when it comes to lingering injuries. He's only 23 and otherwise a beast so hopefully this will be a non issue in September.

 

[JMC00]

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Surprise Surprise massarotti thinks Gronk isn't doing everything he can to get better and that the infection is basically his fault.

 

[chasa]

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Surprise Surprise massarotti thinks Gronk isn't doing everything he can to get better and that the infection is basically his fault.

"i bet Gronk dipped his forearm in a vat of infections and whores just to spite the patriots." -Massarotti

 

[RobertWeathers]

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"i bet Gronk dipped his forearm in a vat of infections and whores just to spite the patriots." -Massarotti

I'm ok with a contrarian viewpoint but to imply that he isn't following his course of treatment when the doctors have stated that a few weeks worth of meds have not done the trick tells me he is doing everything he can.

Now if a doctor says that wrestling on a nightclub stage in Vegas has contributed to an infection then I'll go along with it. Ugh.

 

[Sicilian]

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Surprise Surprise massarotti thinks Gronk isn't doing everything he can to get better and that the infection is basically his fault.

Not surprising given the source of the opinion.

People seem to forget that Tom Brady had complications with his knee as well, and Peyton Manning had to have something like four surgeries on his neck before he was right. I don't think anyone is questioning those two guy's offseason work ethic and responsibility.

It's a case of perception, where he could be doing everything right, but because Gronk is a goofy meathead, people assume there's a causation.

 

[mgteich]

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Some presume that Gronk will be 100% by the time the season starts.

Some presume that the recovery time from infections is uncertain.

And yes, there is the disagreement on the likelihood of additional surgery.

Personally, I come down on the side of uncertainty. I think that it wrong to simply assume that the infection will be gone after 6 weeks of treatment and that he will then be able to be at 100% strength soon thereafter.

THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, Gronkowski will recover and help us in 2013.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

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Some presume that Gronk will be 100% by the time the season starts.

Some presume that the recovery time from infections is uncertain.

And yes, there is the disagreement on the likelihood of additional surgery.

Personally, I come down on the side of uncertainty. I think that it wrong to simply assume that the infection will be gone after 6 weeks of treatment and that he will then be able to be at 100% strength soon thereafter.

THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, Gronkowski will recover and help us in 2013.

Given the time frames it is very likely Gronk will be fine by Game 1 unless he has a setback beyond the current worst case of another 6 weeks of antibiotics and then 10 weeks of a new plate.

The biggest disappointment to me is that he'll be playing all of next year with the plate from the sound of things. I'm under the impression they don't present a particularly big risk but after the second break (admittedly an unusually large stress on his arm) medical types did say it was likely bad luck of hitting the stress point created by the plate so I have an irrational dislike of him playing with the plate again this year.

 

[Mack Herron]

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Given the time frames it is very likely Gronk will be fine by Game 1 unless he has a setback beyond the current worst case of another 6 weeks of antibiotics and then 10 weeks of a new plate.

The biggest disappointment to me is that he'll be playing all of next year with the plate from the sound of things. I'm under the impression they don't present a particularly big risk but after the second break (admittedly an unusually large stress on his arm) medical types did say it was likely bad luck of hitting the stress point created by the plate so I have an irrational dislike of him playing with the plate again this year.

It is probably too soon to know whether or not he would play with a plate. If he does, however, I share your concern, although it is hardly irrational. The wisdom of playing with a plate is debated in the medical community due to the increased risk of fracture, and we saw it up close and personal in the playoffs on a routine play (not sure why you see it as an unusually large stress) with Gronk diving for a ball on a noncontact play. The risks are not well quantified, but playing with a plate will incur an increased risk of fracture at the margin of the plate. But this is nevertheless preferable to the rumored amputation due to rampant, uncontrollable infection.

 

[Froob]

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Surprise Surprise massarotti thinks Gronk isn't doing everything he can to get better and that the infection is basically his fault.

I'm sure somehow, someway, this is Josh Beckett's fault.

 

[Brady2Moss]

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I think his choices during this offseason weren't the best. Hanging out in grimy disgusting night clubs and college frat parties probably didn't help his immune system or the environment under that cast.

I really hope he can beat this thing we need him in the worst way next year given our receiving core as it is currently constituted.

 

[supafly]

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It is probably too soon to know whether or not he would play with a plate.

I think it's pretty much a given that he'll be playing this season with a plate again, Mack, unless maybe starting the season on PUP would be a consideration depending upon how things are going.

There's uncertainty about his time frame of being able to reasonably start the season, so I don't know how you'd figure there'd be time to remove the plate too?

At this point it seems as though playing with the plate (on time) is a best case scenario. I can't see how it gets better from there.

 

[Halifax_Pats_Fan]

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I have concerns about this....real concerns.

What's the next two tight end set innovation we can exploit on draft day?

Gronk is ok...I don't know...something about him I am not a fan off. Big fan of 81...not so much 87.

As much as everyone loves Gronk for his personality to me that is what annoys me a bit.

BB likes football players, I don't categorize Gronk as someone that would be at the top of his list, especially lately.

Flame away...

 

[Avenger]

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I have concerns about this....real concerns.

What's the next two tight end set innovation we can exploit on draft day?

Gronk is ok...I don't know...something about him I am not a fan off. Big fan of 81...not so much 87.

As much as everyone loves Gronk for his personality to me that is what annoys me a bit.

BB likes football players, I don't categorize Gronk as someone that would be at the top of his list, especially lately.

Flame away...

Gronk loves football, don't know what you are talking about.