Report: Freeney wants 6 million per year

[everlong]

The only way I see him getting 6M/year from anybody is on an incentive laden contract.

 

[Rob0729]

The cash/cap floor years have begun. That may, or may not, make a difference. Plus, it's not just the penny pinching teams that have cap space. I'm not saying any particular teams are going to jump into a bidding war, but I'm saying that it only takes one team to throw all the Patsfans plans (i.e. Osi to ATL, Freeney to DEN, Abraham to NE) off the rails, and there are multiple teams in position to do just that.

All that would be valid points if teams have been spending up to this point. I seriously doubt that over two weeks into free agency that teams are going to start to spend a lot of money because they have to get above the cap floor.

So far there has not been any team that has thrown the free agent market out of whack. I seriously doubt that a trio of 30 something pass rushers will be the ones who stet the precedence.

 

[Deus Irae]

All that would be valid points if teams have been spending up to this point. I seriously doubt that over two weeks into free agency that teams are going to start to spend a lot of money because they have to get above the cap floor.

So far there has not been any team that has thrown the free agent market out of whack. I seriously doubt that a trio of 30 something pass rushers will be the ones who stet the precedence.

I have no idea why your argument against "The teams that haven't spent still might decide to do so" continues to be "But they haven't spent....", but it's clear that we're just going to go around and around about something's that's nothing but a possibility, albeit an incredibly obvious one, so there's really no sense in continuing with this.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

I don't see the Patriots going over 4 for Freeney or Abraham, and a team wanting to get over the top will pay him more than they will pay either.

I hope the pats don't pay abraham 4 mill a year...3 maybe. I bet their offer to him was 2 a year

 

[Rob0729]

I have no idea why your argument against "The teams that haven't spent still might decide to do so" continues to be "But they haven't spent....", but it's clear that we're just going to go around and around about something's that's nothing but a possibility, albeit an incredibly obvious one, so there's really no sense in continuing with this.

Teams aren't waking up today saying "OMG! We forgot we have to spend to the cap floor. Let's give Dwight Freeney a $12 million bonus and $6 million a year so we can get over the floor."

Yes, there is a chance a team will jump in and offer Freeney $6 million a year. And there is a chance the Pats trade for Larry Fitzgerald too. Neither is likely to happen or even realistic to happen, but anything is possible.

There was a possibility that I was going to win $300 million on Powerball this past weekend too. It is only a possibility that Freeney could get $6 million a year because anything is possible. I would give it about a 1% chance though.

 

[BB4PRez]

The cash/cap floor years have begun. That may, or may not, make a difference. Plus, it's not just the penny pinching teams that have cap space. I'm not saying any particular teams are going to jump into a bidding war, but I'm saying that it only takes one team to throw all the Patsfans plans (i.e. Osi to ATL, Freeney to DEN, Abraham to NE) off the rails, and there are multiple teams in position to do just that.

You recongize that this is the rationale that Kraft used to justify the jump to Amendola at the start of free agency and why the team would not wait...

It is no differnent then any deal. If you play hardball with your number someone can always step in with a better offer

 

[patfanken]

It's one way to manage the investment in an NFL franchise. The value of the franchise goes up every year as the value of the league goes up, meanwhile you get to pocket profits as well. The Kraft model is better for New England, where he can make up the difference in cap spend with a ridiculous increase in the value of the franchise plus other marketing and sales revenue. But an argument can be made that the Kraft model wouldn't work in a far more limited economic area.

What does this even mean?

The players and owner get to split 50% of the GROSS revenues....and out of their 50% the owners have to pay all the expenses. Ever figure what it costs to send a party of about 80 people out to Oakland for a game for 3 days. You don't want to it would get ugly. Ever want to figure out what it costs just to open up Gillette for a game? You sure don't want to pay the payroll Kraft has to payout to his NON-player personnel every week.

Hey, I'm not ready to throw a testimonial for Bob, but I would be interested in knowing about what percentage of his 50% actually ends up being profit. IIRC, the GB books are open since they are public company, and their revenue was outrageous, and their profits were just a small percentage.

 

[JMC00]

Well apparently Freeney might wait until training camp or after to sign according to NFLN

 

[patfanken]

As to the OP. It will be interesting to see when the "geezers" finally sign. I wouldn't be surprised it goes into TC. First of all, none of these guys are really looking forward to doing a full TC, so I wouldn't be surprised if they took all the way into August before they signed. Maybe by then an injury or two might increase their value.

But then again maybe they want to get it done before the draft, where teams might actually feel less of an urge to sign them after drafting potential pass rushers.

BTW- Andy, I've beat the drum for Andre Carter on several occasions without stirring up much of an interest among the fans here. Any particular reason, he wouldn't be welcomed back, or thought to be less effective than Freeney or Abraham?

I think he'd be a guy you could get for $2MM or less, and it was just 2011 when he was the Pats' best all around defensive player. He showed a little bit of burst in limited play last season, and he might be even more effective this year with another off season to heal from that brutal injury.

Maybe that Raider fans who is going to fill us in on Michael Huff could throw in a few observations about Andre Carter's last season

 

[Dagg]

Osi just got what 4.5 dont think Freeney will sniff 6 at his age. More likey 4mil to 4.5 IMO

 

[ralmat55]

The Freeneys, Abrahams and Seymours have made a ton of money over their careers and probably kept more of it than they'll need in this lifetime. So why should they sell themselves short and play for less than they feel they deserve? All of them can wait until TC and still have offers similar to what they are now refusing still available. Say Von Miller tears an achilles on the first day of camp. My guess is Denver might be willing to pay someone $6 mil a year then.