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It's funny, for some reason I really haven't been paying attention this year to the FA class coming up and the draft class during the season.

Now, however, with the season over my mind's swimming.

First looking at the notable FA's:
Chung
Welker
Woodhead
Arrington
Vollmer
Edelman
Talib

Now first off, let's say bye bye to Chung. No reason to bring him back. Now, I think we resign Welker, that's first priority. And bring back Talib on a 3-ish year contract. Resign Arrington for cheap. Vollmer's gonna cost too much, let him walk. Here's where it gets tough- resign either Woodhead or Edelman. I'm going off on a limb here, I'm taking Edelman. I don't want Woodhead to leave, but something's telling me someone's gonna pay him more than they should. We need to save the money, Edelman will come back for cheap.

So of the players above, Vollmer, Woodhead, and Chung walk.

Now for FA. I think there will be one or two big FA splashes. First off, Henry Melton, boy would he make this pass rush a million times better in the middle. That's one guy, but if he costs too much Alan Branch could be available for cheaper as well. The other splash would possibly be Ed Reed, a guy many have speculated would come here. I'm leaving that as only a possibility because he may cost a LOT of money.

Other signings I'm predicting are Brian Hartline, Deandre Levy (as a coverage LB), possibly Ed Reed, and maybe someone to bring in at RT.
I'll also add that CFL Anothony Armstead guy everyone's been talking about, why not.

So FA and Re signings That I'm predicting:
WR Wes Welker
CB Aqib Talib
WR Julian Edelman
CB Kyle Arrington
DT Henry Melton
WR Brian Hartline
LB DeAndre Levy
DE Anthony Armstead

Now for the draft here's the selections I'm PREDICTING, not the actual selections:
1st (29th)
2nd(60th)
3rd traded down for 4th and 5th round selections
so a 4th
5th
Two 7th rounders.

1st round- Many say Tavon Austin, but I'll say Terrence Williams, as I saw from one mock- size and staright line speed, oh yeah. :rocker:

2nd round- David Amerson CB/S. Depth at CB, but can also play safety in case he's needed. We've learned you can never have too much depth in the D-backfield. He can compete for the starting spot with Dowling when Talib or Dennard go down. (Wait, what?? :cool:)

4th- Brennan Williams OT. Will compete with Marcus Cannon. Sounds scary that that's all I'm putting for OL help, but ehh, Scarnechia will figure it out.

5th Chase Thomas, DE. Trevor Scott, Jermaine Cunningham, a little up in the air on them. Why not give some pass rush competition??

7a. Jake Knott, LB. LB depth, plain and simple.

7b. OL depth, insert name here.

Thoughts??
 
Oh, and add that we let The Hooman walk...
 
There's no way the Pats are fitting Welker, Talib, Hartline, and Melton under the cap. Melton should be tagged, but is probably a $9M a year DT if he hits the market.
 
Why? He's not going to cost too much and is a good depth player who can also play FB.

This.

Also. need to look at some cuts to free up cap space.

Fells?
Larsen?

Possible contract restructures?
Vince?
Mayo?
Gost?
 
i'm pretty sure ed reed is retiring, espeically if the ravens win in 2 weeks
 
Pretty much agree except for making a FA splash. After Welker, Talib, Arrington, Edelman and leaving some money for rookies I'm not sure how much $$ is left for FA. I wouldn't mind Woody being brought back but then that may not allow room for Demps. Good idea to draft WR, CB, S, LB, OL, DT. Good idea on Hartline if he doesn't cost too much, would at the very least be a significant upgrade to Branch. Hopefully Cannon is ready to step in for Vollmer.

That offseason leaves us comfortably under the cap and keeps us a strong contendor, with potential for improvement pending the draft and addition of Gronk, Edelman, Ballard, Jones at full strength, Demps, Dowling, Fletcher and improvement among the youth. That's potential for a major improvement while not strapping yourself in upcoming offseasons. Also the potential Mallet to Browns situation could help alot.
 
This.

Also. need to look at some cuts to free up cap space.

Fells?
Larsen?

Possible contract restructures?
Vince?
Mayo?
Gost?

Anyone know how much cutting Fells would save? With Ballard coming back I'd imagine he's very expendable.
 
There's no way the Pats are fitting Welker, Talib, Hartline, and Melton under the cap. Melton should be tagged, but is probably a $9M a year DT if he hits the market.

As I said, though, if he's too much, Alan Branch would make a nice, not as expensive signing.
 
It's funny, for some reason I really haven't been paying attention this year to the FA class coming up and the draft class during the season.

Now, however, with the season over my mind's swimming.

First looking at the notable FA's:
Chung
Welker
Woodhead
Arrington
Vollmer
Edelman
Talib

Now first off, let's say bye bye to Chung. No reason to bring him back. Now, I think we resign Welker, that's first priority. And bring back Talib on a 3-ish year contract. Resign Arrington for cheap. Vollmer's gonna cost too much, let him walk. Here's where it gets tough- resign either Woodhead or Edelman. I'm going off on a limb here, I'm taking Edelman. I don't want Woodhead to leave, but something's telling me someone's gonna pay him more than they should. We need to save the money, Edelman will come back for cheap.

So of the players above, Vollmer, Woodhead, and Chung walk.

Now for FA. I think there will be one or two big FA splashes. First off, Henry Melton, boy would he make this pass rush a million times better in the middle. That's one guy, but if he costs too much Alan Branch could be available for cheaper as well. The other splash would possibly be Ed Reed, a guy many have speculated would come here. I'm leaving that as only a possibility because he may cost a LOT of money.

Other signings I'm predicting are Brian Hartline, Deandre Levy (as a coverage LB), possibly Ed Reed, and maybe someone to bring in at RT.
I'll also add that CFL Anothony Armstead guy everyone's been talking about, why not.

So FA and Re signings That I'm predicting:
WR Wes Welker
CB Aqib Talib
WR Julian Edelman
CB Kyle Arrington
DT Henry Melton
WR Brian Hartline
LB DeAndre Levy
DE Anthony Armstead

Now for the draft here's the selections I'm PREDICTING, not the actual selections:
1st (29th)
2nd(60th)
3rd traded down for 4th and 5th round selections
so a 4th
5th
Two 7th rounders.

1st round- Many say Tavon Austin, but I'll say Terrence Williams, as I saw from one mock- size and staright line speed, oh yeah. :rocker:

2nd round- David Amerson CB/S. Depth at CB, but can also play safety in case he's needed. We've learned you can never have too much depth in the D-backfield. He can compete for the starting spot with Dowling when Talib or Dennard go down. (Wait, what?? :cool:)

4th- Brennan Williams OT. Will compete with Marcus Cannon. Sounds scary that that's all I'm putting for OL help, but ehh, Scarnechia will figure it out.

5th Chase Thomas, DE. Trevor Scott, Jermaine Cunningham, a little up in the air on them. Why not give some pass rush competition??

7a. Jake Knott, LB. LB depth, plain and simple.

7b. OL depth, insert name here.

Thoughts??

Marcus Benard with provide competition as a pass rusher.
 
The only cut that could save them much on next year's cap is Lloyd. According to this site, he's due a $3M option bonus in 2013, plus a $1.9M salary for a total of $4.9M in new money for next year.

Brandon Lloyd - New England Patriots - 2013 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

With his prorated signing bonus and workout bonus, his 2013 cap number will be around $6M. Based on his production this year, I doubt that BB will keep him at that number. There would be $2M in dead money from his $3M signing bonus if he's cut (possibly split between 2013 and 2014), but I don't believe he will be with the Patriots next year, at least not for that money.
 
It's funny, for some reason I really haven't been paying attention this year to the FA class coming up and the draft class during the season.

Now, however, with the season over my mind's swimming.

First looking at the notable FA's:
Chung
Welker
Woodhead
Arrington
Vollmer
Edelman
Talib

Now first off, let's say bye bye to Chung. No reason to bring him back. Now, I think we resign Welker, that's first priority. And bring back Talib on a 3-ish year contract. Resign Arrington for cheap. Vollmer's gonna cost too much, let him walk. Here's where it gets tough- resign either Woodhead or Edelman. I'm going off on a limb here, I'm taking Edelman. I don't want Woodhead to leave, but something's telling me someone's gonna pay him more than they should. We need to save the money, Edelman will come back for cheap.

So of the players above, Vollmer, Woodhead, and Chung walk.

Now for FA. I think there will be one or two big FA splashes. First off, Henry Melton, boy would he make this pass rush a million times better in the middle. That's one guy, but if he costs too much Alan Branch could be available for cheaper as well. The other splash would possibly be Ed Reed, a guy many have speculated would come here. I'm leaving that as only a possibility because he may cost a LOT of money.

Other signings I'm predicting are Brian Hartline, Deandre Levy (as a coverage LB), possibly Ed Reed, and maybe someone to bring in at RT.
I'll also add that CFL Anothony Armstead guy everyone's been talking about, why not.

So FA and Re signings That I'm predicting:
WR Wes Welker
CB Aqib Talib
WR Julian Edelman
CB Kyle Arrington
DT Henry Melton
WR Brian Hartline
LB DeAndre Levy
DE Anthony Armstead

Now for the draft here's the selections I'm PREDICTING, not the actual selections:
1st (29th)
2nd(60th)
3rd traded down for 4th and 5th round selections
so a 4th
5th
Two 7th rounders.

1st round- Many say Tavon Austin, but I'll say Terrence Williams, as I saw from one mock- size and staright line speed, oh yeah. :rocker:

2nd round- David Amerson CB/S. Depth at CB, but can also play safety in case he's needed. We've learned you can never have too much depth in the D-backfield. He can compete for the starting spot with Dowling when Talib or Dennard go down. (Wait, what?? :cool:)

4th- Brennan Williams OT. Will compete with Marcus Cannon. Sounds scary that that's all I'm putting for OL help, but ehh, Scarnechia will figure it out.

5th Chase Thomas, DE. Trevor Scott, Jermaine Cunningham, a little up in the air on them. Why not give some pass rush competition??

7a. Jake Knott, LB. LB depth, plain and simple.

7b. OL depth, insert name here.

Thoughts??


1. Restructure Contracts/Extend

Tom Brady
Vince Wilfork
Logan Mankins

2. Resigned FA's
Welker 3 yr $24M-$27M w/ $8M-$9M guaranteed
Talib 3 yr $15M-$18M w/ $5M-$6M guaranteed
Vollmer 3 yr $12M-$15M w/ $4M-5M guaranteed
Edelman 3 yr 5.5M w/ $2M guaranteed
Arrington 3 yr 4.5M w/ 1.5M guaranteed
Hoomanawanui 3 yr 2.5M w/ 250K guaranteed
White 1 yr 900K w/ 200K guaranteed
Cole 1 yr 750K w/ 100K guaranteed

3. Extend Early
Rob Ninkovich 4 yr $15M w/ 5M guaranteed
Brandon Spikes 6 yr 30M w/ 6M guaranteed

4. Let Walk
Woodhead
Chung
Scott
Martin
Allen
Branch

5. Cuts
Fells
Larsen

6. Draft

29th pick - Traded to Chiefs (Matt Barkley) for 34th, 96th and 160th pick
34th pick - Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
59th pick - Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech
91st pick - Tharold Simon, CB, LSU
96th pick - Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
160th pick - Jonotthan Harrison, C, Florida
Round 7 pick - Tyrann Mathieu, CB/S, LSU
Round 7 pick - Corey Lemonier, DE/OLB, Auburn


7. UFA's

Ed Reed 2 yr $14M w/ $3M guaranteed
Brett Grimes 1 yr 5M / $1M guaranteed
Andre Carter 1 yr $3M w/ 1M guaranteed
 
I want some big guys in the secondary
 
What money is Woodhead expected to get? I really want to keep him here and if Welker leaves we must sign him up.
 
1. Restructure Contracts/Extend

Tom Brady
Vince Wilfork
Logan Mankins

2. Resigned FA's
Welker 3 yr $24M-$27M w/ $8M-$9M guaranteed
Talib 3 yr $15M-$18M w/ $5M-$6M guaranteed
Vollmer 3 yr $12M-$15M w/ $4M-5M guaranteed
Edelman 3 yr 5.5M w/ $2M guaranteed
Arrington 3 yr 4.5M w/ 1.5M guaranteed
Hoomanawanui 3 yr 2.5M w/ 250K guaranteed
White 1 yr 900K w/ 200K guaranteed
Cole 1 yr 750K w/ 100K guaranteed

3. Extend Early
Rob Ninkovich 4 yr $15M w/ 5M guaranteed
Brandon Spikes 6 yr 30M w/ 6M guaranteed

4. Let Walk
Woodhead
Chung
Scott
Martin
Allen
Branch

5. Cuts
Fells
Larsen

6. Draft

29th pick - Traded to Chiefs (Matt Barkley) for 34th, 96th and 160th pick
34th pick - Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
59th pick - Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech
91st pick - Tharold Simon, CB, LSU
96th pick - Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
160th pick - Jonotthan Harrison, C, Florida
Round 7 pick - Tyrann Mathieu, CB/S, LSU
Round 7 pick - Corey Lemonier, DE/OLB, Auburn


7. UFA's

Ed Reed 2 yr $14M w/ $3M guaranteed
Brett Grimes 1 yr 5M / $1M guaranteed
Andre Carter 1 yr $3M w/ 1M guaranteed

Cheifs dont need to trade up for barkley and lemonier and williams will be gone way before the 4th and 7th
 
Why would Armstead come here? The Colts can offer him far more than the Pats.
 
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