Does any one know which QBs today call their own plays?

[thenepatsrule]

I came across an article today which said that Peyton is the only one who calls his only plays in the huddle , is this true? i was under the impression that Brady too calls his own plays and changes them according to what the defense is showing him

 

[fxkane]

i guess the distinction must be between "in the huddle" and "at the line." i have heard several times that Manning was--at least when at Indy--either the only quarterback to call his own plays or the one who called way more plays than any other qb

 

[thenepatsrule]

i guess the distinction must be between "in the huddle" and "at the line." i have heard several times that Manning was--at least when at Indy--either the only quarterback to call his own plays or the one who called way more plays than any other qb

If he is the only person doing it that makes him the best out there and i guess then the other 31 QBs (including Brady/Rodgers/Brees) are system QBs and nothing more ?????????

 

[Gumby]

If he is the only person doing it that makes him the best out there and i guess then the other 31 QBs (including Brady/Rodgers/Brees) are system QBs and nothing more ?????????

No, but that does make PM a very smart guy, and...

that makes his coach a very dumb guy.

PM has to be smart (i dont think anyone denies that) to be able to run an O like that essentially off the top of his head. BUT...

the reason (if TRUE that he is only one); is NOT that ALL the other QBs are less celebral/capable; but rather that there is a NATURAL HUMAN TENDANCY to DEVELOP TENDANCIES. which good teams/coaches will avoid.

An OC on the sidelines with a choreographed play-card based on a well-thought out opponent specific game plan and a statistical tick mark showing which plays he has used and hasn't is going to be on average less predictable than a QB out there flying by seat of his pants. So, if a coach institutionalizes that the QB is allowed to do that 100% of the time, IMO he is an idiot.

 

[Welkerstache]

I came across an article today which said that Peyton is the only one who calls his only plays in the huddle , is this true? i was under the impression that Brady too calls his own plays and changes them according to what the defense is showing him

Brandon Wheedon and Blaine Gabbert as well, it's said.

 

[Boomer B]

No QBs call their own plays on an every down basis. I read that Steve Grogan was the last NFL QB to do so and that was back in the 80's. Plays are sent in via the headset and the better QBs like Brady and Manning can veto the play depending what they see at the line of scrimmage. Of course in a hurry up situation the QB may take over the play calling also.

 

[SVN]

Dont think any player calls his own plays. Maybe they are given options to change plays but its very hard for 1 qb these days to compete with a DC and whole set of defensive coaches from the sideline. Its just another Manning overhype because he doesnt huddle and switches play at the LOC.

 

[ausbacker]

Manning has also been known to call defensive schemes and special teams plays.

 

[lurker1965]

Define "Calling plays." Steve Grogan was the last QB to call his own plays. (That sounds very cerebral, but according to Terry Bradshaw that is like 6 pass plays and two 5 runs- left deep pass, left short pass, etc.)

Now every QB, including Peyton, gets an OC radioing him a play call. In his case (and Brady, and Brees, and Rodgers) it is like two passes and a run and he can change it based on what he "reads" of the defense. (It might vary, Brady gets 2 passes with 3 variational routes and Peyton gets 3 pass plays or whatever.)

Every QB can "audible" out of a play. Let me revise that; every "good" QB can audible out of a play. Let me revise that again; every QB trusted by his coaches can audible out of a play based on what he sees. (If the OC doesn't see it too, the QB will not be "trusted" for long.)

Sportscasters say that about Manning to justify their preconceived notion that Peyton is just plain better than any other QB ever.

 

[chasa]

for a guy who apparently isnt calling plays Mike McCoy is getting a lot of head coaching attention

 

[mosi]

No QBs call their own plays on an every down basis. I read that Steve Grogan was the last NFL QB to do so and that was back in the 80's. Plays are sent in via the headset and the better QBs like Brady and Manning can veto the play depending what they see at the line of scrimmage. Of course in a hurry up situation the QB may take over the play calling also.

I remember that as well. All QBs used to call the plays, even the dumb ones.

 

[nabwong]

the reason (if TRUE that he is only one); is NOT that ALL the other QBs are less celebral/capable; but rather that there is a NATURAL HUMAN TENDANCY to DEVELOP TENDANCIES. which good teams/coaches will avoid.

An OC on the sidelines with a choreographed play-card based on a well-thought out opponent specific game plan and a statistical tick mark showing which plays he has used and hasn't is going to be on average less predictable than a QB out there flying by seat of his pants. So, if a coach institutionalizes that the QB is allowed to do that 100% of the time, IMO he is an idiot.

This! Peyton's Tendency led to that pick 6 against the saints in superbowl XLIV. Tracy Porter was anticipating that slant route from Wayne.

 

[ahmed]

I don't think it has anything to do with brains or whatever. There's noway a QB calling his plays is a good thing. First, they are in the heat of the moment and they can't rationally always think things through. They need somebody from the outside to survey the field and decide on next call. This would allow the QB to only worry about ensuring his players are in position, reading defense and so forth.

Also, OCs are likely thinking of next play right after they called the previous one. Based on the outcome, they probably have several plays they could call. In a 24 second window, somebody who's already busy on the field would never have enough time to effectively make the right calls. It would be complete chaos.

 

[nabwong]

I read somewhere that Johnny Unitas called all his plays.

 

[Sciz]

If this were remotely true about Peyton, then his OC would be unemployed right now, not being interviewed for four head coaching positions.

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

It is often repeated that Manning calls his own plays but when Tom Moore was the OC he made it clear several times that he called the plays. Other than noise from fans of Peyton there's no evidence supporting the premise of Manning having any more say in play calls than Brady or any other top QB.

I'd say the whole idea is born out of the gyrations he makes at the line which are interesting but not at all necessary.

 

[chasa]

also if he is calling all of the plays, how does he handle those substitutions?

The Helmet mic is one way, so the only way the right players would know to get on the field is when the other players got off and told someone to get the right ones.

 

[PlainOldEd]

I don't think it has anything to do with brains or whatever. There's noway a QB calling his plays is a good thing. First, they are in the heat of the moment and they can't rationally always think things through. They need somebody from the outside to survey the field and decide on next call. This would allow the QB to only worry about ensuring his players are in position, reading defense and so forth.

Also, OCs are likely thinking of next play right after they called the previous one. Based on the outcome, they probably have several plays they could call. In a 24 second window, somebody who's already busy on the field would never have enough time to effectively make the right calls. It would be complete chaos.

Not to mention defensive personel substitutions. A QB has to know what defensive package is out there, but he couldn't be expected to know that the back-up is in at any given position and he might want to attack him.

 

[thenepatsrule]

If this were remotely true about Peyton, then his OC would be unemployed right now, not being interviewed for four head coaching positions.

lol good one :rocker:

 

[thenepatsrule]

also if he is calling all of the plays, how does he handle those substitutions?

The Helmet mic is one way, so the only way the right players would know to get on the field is when the other players got off and told someone to get the right ones.

you bring up a very good point.:rocker: