Edelman

[Mainefan]

8 receptions. Let's give the guy a little love.

 

[strngplyr]

Thats nothing surprising, Edelman is always one of the guys on the team you can count on to never quit, he will get his catches when hes given the playing time, but he won't get the playing time in a real game with Welker, Lloyd, Gaffney, Gronkowski, Hernandez an probably 2 or 3 runningbacks ahead of him on passing downs.

 

[Gronkandez]

Meh. I hope he flashes something this preseason but I didn't see it last night.

He can return punts, I'll give him that. On the other hand how about that KO return muff, which he compounded by picking running out of the endzone....to the 3 -yard line.

 

[Sicilian]

Meh. I hope he flashes something this preseason but I didn't see it last night.

He can return punts, I'll give him that. On the other hand how about that KO return muff, which he compounded by picking running out of the endzone....to the 3 -yard line.

This was actually a question I had for my buddies last night and none of us were 100% sure: Once he touches that ball outside of the endzone and it bounces into the EZ, he can't down it anymore, right? It becomes a safety, doesn't it? If so, bad as the play was, he HAD to run it out.

 

[patfanken]

Meh. I hope he flashes something this preseason but I didn't see it last night.

He can return punts, I'll give him that. On the other hand how about that KO return muff, which he compounded by picking running out of the endzone....to the 3 -yard line.

Face it you are never going to give him any credit until he becomes a starting slot receiver.

The muff was on him, but that was a function of not knowing the exact rule. An issue most fans would have. IIRC If the ball goes through his hands (muffed), and goes into the endzone on its own momentum, than its a still touchback if downed. It a rule that I'm sure BB will have him memorize after they look at the film.

Sh!t happens. OTOH he continued to show progress as a receiver, and THAT's what you fail to acknowledge about him. You should be happy to know that if Welker ever goes down, we have a more than adequate back up.

 

[Jackson 2]

Incredibly polarizing player on this board. I really like him, but I know others don't. If he's cut I'd bet anyone he'd be picked up in minutes.

 

[The Boston Patriot]

There is no way he doesn't make the roster so get over it.

 

[Gronkandez]

Face it you are never going to give him any credit until he becomes a starting slot receiver.

The muff was on him, but that was a function of not knowing the exact rule. An issue most fans would have. IIRC If the ball goes through his hands (muffed), and goes into the endzone on its own momentum, than its a still touchback if downed. It a rule that I'm sure BB will have him memorize after they look at the film.

Sh!t happens. OTOH he continued to show progress as a receiver, and THAT's what you fail to acknowledge about him. You should be happy to know that if Welker ever goes down, we have a more than adequate back up.

He needs to know the rules. His blocker did, as he was telling him to kneel it.

From the offseason threads about him, people have differing opinions on him. I'm on the skeptical side.

 

[randomk1]

Incredibly polarizing player on this board. I really like him, but I know others don't. If he's cut I'd bet anyone he'd be picked up in minutes.

No doubt about it. Now that i think of it...i'd keep him on the roster just for that purpose hehe. I don't want a mini-Welker situation here

 

[brady199]

This was actually a question I had for my buddies last night and none of us were 100% sure: Once he touches that ball outside of the endzone and it bounces into the EZ, he can't down it anymore, right? It becomes a safety, doesn't it? If so, bad as the play was, he HAD to run it out.

If he had possesion of the ball and then fumbled it backwards then he would have to run it out if he could, but when he never had control of it (muffed it) then he didn't have to bring it out, he just had to regain possesion and down the ball. So that was a huge mistake. I have to assume he knew the rule, I don't see how he couldn't of. Just a brain freeze.

 

[Kontradiction]

Incredibly polarizing player on this board. I really like him, but I know others don't. If he's cut I'd bet anyone he'd be picked up in minutes.

He's polarizing because, for some reason, there's a nice contingent on this board that thinks he can seamlessly replace Welker.

 

[Sicilian]

If he had possesion of the ball and then fumbled it backwards then he would have to run it out if he could, but when he never had control of it (muffed it) then he didn't have to bring it out, he just had to regain possesion and down the ball. So that was a huge mistake. I have to assume he knew the rule, I don't see how he couldn't of. Just a brain freeze.

Ah, ok, thank you for clarifying.

 

[Jackson 2]

He's polarizing because, for some reason, there's a nice contingent on this board that thinks he can seamlessly replace Welker.

The members of that contingent are, in my opinion, incorrect. That doesn't, however, mean he's not a really valuable guy to have around. If one were to follow that line of thinking to its logical conclusion, Brian Hoyer would be worthless because he's not a seamless replacement for Tom Brady.

 

[Kontradiction]

The members of that contingent are, in my opinion, incorrect. That doesn't, however, mean he's not a really valuable guy to have around. If one were to follow that line of thinking to its logical conclusion, Brian Hoyer would be worthless because he's not a seamless replacement for Tom Brady.

Edelman is valuable because he's a smart, versatile player. He can play WR, return kick offs and punts, and play spot duty on defense when needed (and let's hope to God that isn't the case). He's everything that Belichick loves. He's a jack of all trades...



...and a master at none.

 

[Jackson 2]

Edelman is valuable because he's a smart, versatile player. He can play WR, return kick offs and punts, and play spot duty on defense when needed (and let's hope to God that isn't the case). He's everything that Belichick loves. He's a jack of all trades...



...and a master at none.

Which, candidly, makes him a relatively rare talent.

 

[Gronkandez]

Which, candidly, makes him a relatively rare talent.

It's a similar argument as with Tebow. Tebow is an extremely "rare" talent but where do you play him? How much value does he add?

Tebow is in a different category of course having had much more success in college in the NFL but they're both swiss army knife types.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

8 receptions. Let's give the guy a little love.

My TV must be only half working because I only saw Edes catch about half that many.

Didn't help himself with the disasterous goal line PR screwup. But better now than in season.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

The muff was on him, but that was a function of not knowing the exact rule. An issue most fans would have. IIRC If the ball goes through his hands (muffed), and goes into the endzone on its own momentum, than its a still touchback if downed. It a rule that I'm sure BB will have him memorize after they look at the film.

Let's not forget that even BB doesn't understand all the rules all the time: when Gostkowski got to kick off from the Ravens' 35 back in 2007, he claimed, incorrectly, that kicking the ball OOB would result in the ball ending up "half the distance to the goal line" (which isn't how the rule works at all).

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Edelman is valuable because he's a smart, versatile player. He can play WR, return kick offs and punts, and play spot duty on defense when needed (and let's hope to God that isn't the case). He's everything that Belichick loves. He's a jack of all trades...



...and a master at none.

Most players who have been playing defensive back have been doing it for years. Edelman'd been doing it for a couple of weeks. It makes you wonder how good a DB he'd be if the Patriots had put him there back in 2009 instead of as a WR.

 

[Kontradiction]

Most players who have been playing defensive back have been doing it for years. Edelman'd been doing it for a couple of weeks. It makes you wonder how good a DB he'd be if the Patriots had put him there back in 2009 instead of as a WR.

Hard to imagine him being anything more than serviceable at best. But, still, it's a fair question. I would like to think that Belichick put him in a position where he would excel the most, though.