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Moss has about as much chance of becoming a Patriot again as Momma Gronkowski has of playing Safety for us

Don't count Momma Gronkowski being a safety. I am betting that by the end of next season, the entire team will be 52 Gronkowskis and Brady.
 
I think they should bring him back if he is willing to accept a situational role and do what he can to help the team. Moss and Ocho on the outside with welker in the slot would create problems for any D.


This ^^^^^^^......
 
LOL, thanks for that, I needed a good laugh before I went to bed.

whats funny about that? Welker is better than holmes, Ocho probably will be, and if Moss is here, that could be 3 wr better than your number 1.
 
whats funny about that? Welker is better than holmes, Ocho probably will be, and if Moss is here, that could be 3 wr better than your number 1.

Hmmmm..

I love Welker to death and never want to see him leave NE but straight up better than Holmes is ducktales. Holmes can be much more versatile than Welker being that he can stretch the field at times and make incredible catches.

Welker is just a super slot receiver.
 
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Wasn't it reported that the Pats offered Moss a contract, but because it was for only one year he turned it down and then retired instead?

If that is correct (and yes, I realize that is a great big if) then I don't see the Pats offering Moss another contract, nor do I see Moss accepting an offer. BSPN is simply throwing baseless speculation out there to garner ratings - and obviously it's working.
 
Honestly, what was Brady supposed to say, "Nah, I don't want him back." I'm sure he would welcome a cooperative and competitive Randy back, who wouldn't?

I hate, I mean really hate ESPN and all sports talking heads. They simply don't say anything, they just drum up stuff to get ratings/clicks. The veracity of what they assert doesn't matter in the slightest. And they have 24 hours to fill.

Exactly. Belichick and Moss have a mutual respect for each other, but there's no way that Moss is on his way back here. Personally, I'm not sure how much (if anything) Moss has left in the tank.
 
Exactly. Belichick and Moss have a mutual respect for each other, but there's no way that Moss is on his way back here. Personally, I'm not sure how much (if anything) Moss has left in the tank.

Yah.
Did anyone her watch Moss play for the 2 teams after he left the Pats? Sub-par QBs aside, he did not impress by being wide open with errant throws keeping his catches down.

Remember that 2 of Brady's 4 INTs came while throwing to Moss. I saw Brady's manlove for Randy affecting his mental approach to the game.
 
Patsfans need to embrace Bill's approach to baseless media fueled Moss speculation...

On Randy Moss: "I won't talk about any player that's not on our football team."
 
Hmmmm..

I love Welker to death and never want to see him leave NE but straight up better than Holmes is ducktales. Holmes can be much more versatile than Welker being that he can stretch the field at times and make incredible catches.

Welker is just a super slot receiver.

Another example of "lets just decide who is better"...look at stats, welker is better. Just because he is short and white, does not mean he is worse.
 
Don't count Momma Gronkowski being a safety. I am betting that by the end of next season, the entire team will be 52 Gronkowskis and Brady.

Gronks 102
Great White Shark 3

 
Another example of "lets just decide who is better"...look at stats, welker is better. Just because he is short and white, does not mean he is worse.

Not really. My words has nothing to do with his height or race.

Welker is amazing in the slot.... in the slot.....in the slot.... get it?

My argument was that Holmes is more versatile. He can do more than just play slot for the most part.

I can't stand Holmes as a person but he is a very talented receiver. I guess both receivers play to the teams need's that are on though.
 
Comparing Welker and Holmes is apples and oranges since like Kid Brady said they are different types of WR's. There are things Welker does that Holmes can't, and vice versa. It's kind of like comparing Gronk and Hernandez, both play the same position but they both play it differently (Gronk a more traditional style with short-to-intermediate route impact, Hernandez the H-back style with better wheels and YAC impact).
 
Another example of "lets just decide who is better"...look at stats, welker is better. Just because he is short and white, does not mean he is worse.

Stats don't tell the whole story

The Pats are a passing offense, and Brady is a HOF QB.

But to say Welker is a better WR than Holmes is you being a lame homer, period.
 
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Stats don't tell the whole story

The Pats are a passing offense, and Brady is a HOF QB.

But to say Welker is a better WR than Holmes is you being a lame homer, period.

hypocritical statement ftw. You arent changing the minds of anyone here..Its a pats board
 
Stats don't tell the whole story

The Pats are a passing offense, and Brady is a HOF QB.

But to say Welker is a better WR than Holmes is you being a lame homer, period.

Stats may not tell "the whole story," but they call tell a pretty big part of the story..

HOLMES---54 receptions per yr average in past 5 yrs

WELKER---108 receptions per yr average in past 4 yrs

That's TWICE the number of catches...

I'll take the guy who is dependable, plays through pain/injuries, is just as quick, and puts up 2x the numbers, thank you very much.

Oh yeah, and then there's the whole malcontent issue, the suspension issue, the drug use issue etc, etc, etc.

Holmes may be a decent WR (although the Steelers certainly didn't think that much of him, as they were going to cut him the next day, and were happy just to get a 5th for him), but he's a total douche of a human being.

Before last yr no one even wanted him, he's one pot test away from the same thing happening with a 1 yr suspension and a release from your team. That's always encouraging.

They threw the case out here in Pittsburgh, b/c he was the guy who caught the SB winning catch, otherwise he got pulled over WHILE smoking a blunt (automatic DUI), and had over 1/2 oz stuffed into multiple blunts in the ashtray which he promptly admitted were also his. Had it been a real city with real actual courts etc, he'd have been given a DUI, placed on probation, and been part of the system where he'd have to give his probation officer weekly drug screens etc.

We won't even get into his character issues at Ohio St, where he beat up his girlfriend, got into fights, knocked up a girl + refused child support etc.

After living in Columbus and Pittsburgh I know Mr.Holmes and his reputation all too well. If you're going on talent alone, I'll take the guy with no problems, a great work ethic, and 2x the output every single time.
 
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Yeah, I'm not sure how anyone can support the stance given their recent and historical production that Holmes is better than Welker. Where Holmes deserves props is that he's a playmaker and can be counted on when Sanchez needs him most.
 
Stats don't tell the whole story

The Pats are a passing offense, and Brady is a HOF QB.

But to say Welker is a better WR than Holmes is you being a lame homer, period.

You spent the entire Brandon Tate thread using "look at the stats" as the beginning and end of your argument, and now that they don't support what you're trying to sell, they don't tell the whole story? The fact of the matter is that Welker's three best seasons are all better than Holmes' best season. Welker moves the chains more reliably than someone like Holmes could ever hope to, and if you can't see the value in that then you know even less about football than I thought (and it was already pretty clear that you didn't know much).

Sanchez may be league-average at best, but Holmes has played with an elite QB. That team decided that it was better off without him, and promptly replaced him with Mike Wallace.
 
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Shoot me, kill me, one star this thread...but I want Moss over Ocho

Ocho-Stinko is just not a good fit here imo.

if we are gonna carry an old wr who has lost a step, i'll take a humbled randy Moss on a non guaranteed deal please.

I really think Moss would be a great asset to this team... no risk all reward.
 
Re: Shoot me, kill me, one star this thread...but I want Moss over Ocho

Wish granted. Got your star.
 
Re: Shoot me, kill me, one star this thread...but I want Moss over Ocho

Moss would have caught those two long dropped passes by welker and slater. Just saying.
 
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