Schefter: Branch to New England for 4th round pick

[reflexblue]

I will eat crow if he plays well.

With or without feathers? Grilled broiled or deep fried? Inquiring minds want to know

 

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

BB i am sure is going on hope here that he can resuscitate his career.Thats my feeling here.It was worth a shot maybe if we gave them a 6th round pick.Why dont they bring back David Givens whiled they add it.

So Belichick is a "hope and change guy"?

How about this:

In 2009, Bill Belichick decides the 2007 offense has been figured out by the league and decides to change course.

Drafts two great TE's to bring in appliciable personnel. Ditto Crumpler.

Tate and Welker health status is a go. Tate displays the skills needed and confirms in the first four games. Maroney is traded and BJGE displays the skills needed for a RB in the new offense.

Moss is de-emphasized in the offense and becomes a decoy. He attains "glorified decoy" because of the mass talk of the mediots. Moss has realized the plan all along and gets traded.

Bill Belichick shows the genius to actually scout Deion Branch to see if he still meets the physical criteria to play.

He does!!!!!

A trade is then made to get a player that has the phyical skills to play the role needed in the offense and as an added bonus has actually done this before with our QB.

 

[lapatsfan]

Everyone seems to forget that Brady makes everyone around him look better. Brady made many receivers look great, to include Branch, Givens, Stallworth and even Gaffney. It seems like as soon as these receivers leave for the big contract, they fall off the map. Also, for those of us with short-term memory, don't forget that Welker wasn't exactly a superstar in Miami but he became one with Brady. So what's my point? My point is that this is a great trade and the Pats are going to get back to their winning ways without feeling obligated to force a certain number of balls to Moss every game (many of which result in INTs). Just my opinion....

 

[emoney_33]

Everyone seems to forget that Brady makes everyone around him look better. Brady made many receivers look great, to include Branch, Givens, Stallworth and even Gaffney. It seems like as soon as these receivers leave for the big contract, they fall off the map. Also, for those of us with short-term memory, don't forget that Welker wasn't exactly a superstar in Miami but he became one with Brady. So what's my point? My point is that this is a great trade and the Pats are going to get back to their winning ways without feeling obligated to force a certain number of balls to Moss every game (many of which result in INTs). Just my opinion....

Branch has identical stats with Seattle as he had with NE.

And Brady's INT rate was no worse with Moss than with Branch.

 

[JackBauer]

Branch has identical stats with Seattle as he had with NE.

And Brady's INT rate was no worse with Moss than with Branch.

edit: don't care.

 

[Yehoodi]

It's posts like ^^ these ^^ that make me shake my head and wonder if fans actually watch the games the Pats have played since 2001 . . .

The Patriots became a different kind of team in 2007; one that was disturbingly similar to the Colts.

Evidently, that escaped you.

It's bad enough that you can't see the obvious dominance that Ball Control Teams have held over Fantasy FootBall Teams, over the ages:

Not since 1989 ~ 20 YEARS ~ has the leading TD Receiver played for the Super Bowl Champion.

Only 3 teams, since then ~ the 94 Miners, the 99 Rams, and the 09 Saints ~ have been Passing teams that won the Super Bowl without blatant and documented CHEATING.

But the fact that you're so vacuous as to think that observing the obvious ~ again: Ball Control Teams DOMINATE Fantasy FootBall Teams ~ is not only wrong, but way off...is PATHETIC.

I see you skirted around my points, so let me asked you a few questions

1) What does a ball controll offense have to do with an open Bennett missing the ball in the Tenn game?

2) What does a ball controll offense have to do with Tyree making his catch?

3) You did watch the last drives by Tenn in divisional playoff '02, the Giant last drive in SB42, Indy's last drive in the '06 AFFCG, Phila's last drive in SB39, what do any of these last drives have to do with the make up of the offense? please advise . . .

 

[spacecrime]

Branch has identical stats with Seattle as he had with NE.

Not identical. Branch had about 10% less yards per game and catches per game with Seattle than with New England.
Deion Branch

And Brady's INT rate was no worse with Moss than with Branch.

Could you tell me how you computed this? I assume the formula would be:

(interceptions while targeting Branch) divided by (total times Branch was targeted)

Is that what you used? Do you have the numbers? I havde no idea where to find them. Thanks.

 

[spacecrime]

Because he is due 5+ mil and if they cut him they owe that money regardless. If they trade him they get a pick and that money comes off the books. They really like their young guys and want to get them on the field. But if they don't play Branch then what trade value does he have?

Its a win win for Seattle, they get a pick for Branch and his salary comes off the books and they can put the young guys on the field. They have Stokely as a veteran presence and they really like Goldent Tate and Deion Butler.

By that logic it is lose-lose for the Pats. They lose a pick and his salary is theirs to pay and they can't put their young guys on the field.

I agree with you on all points, especially the last one (getting the young guys on the field). I think the Pats would be better off playing the younger guys and I don't like the Pats paying Branch at a $5 mil a year rate or losing the pick.

 

[drew4008]

Could you tell me how you computed this? I assume the formula would be:

(interceptions while targeting Branch) divided by (total times Branch was targeted)

Is that what you used? Do you have the numbers? I havde no idea where to find them. Thanks.

I think he means in general (Brady's overall #s with Branch as a WR versus with Moss as a WR). Very vague statistic indeed...

 

[Deus Irae]

By that logic it is lose-lose for the Pats. They lose a pick and his salary is theirs to pay and they can't put their young guys on the field.

I agree with you on all points, especially the last one (getting the young guys on the field). I think the Pats would be better off playing the younger guys and I don't like the Pats paying Branch at a $5 mil a year rate or losing the pick.

Ok, but what if Price sucks right now? How would it help the team to put him out there as the WR3?

 

[TBradyOwnsYou]

Next year's headlines:
Welker wants new deal after once again leading the league in receptions and YAC, gets dealt back to Miami for a 5th rounder.
Pats trade the 5th rounder and Gostkowski for a haircut for Brady.
Pats trade a 2nd rounder to Colts and welcome the return of Vinatrai...Vinateri.
Brady happy, Giselle mad. Pats go 1-15.

 

[WhiteWesWelker88]

The salary is not a big deal...... Moss dwarfed him in pay.



If Branch sucks and not worthy for next year... we cut the SOB


the beauty of the NFL.... less guaranteed money and the ability to cut ppl when ever.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Ok, but what if Price sucks right now? How would it help the team to put him out there as the WR3?

Price was a slow starter at training camp. If he was 'lights out' in practise, this recycling move never woulda been made. Price will not be game active unless another Pats wideout is injured.

 

[Deus Irae]

Price was a slow starter at training camp. If he was 'lights out' in practise, this recycling move never woulda been made. Price will not be game active unless another Pats wideout is injured.

I'm with you on your take of Price in the training camp/exhibitions. That's why I don't get the idea of playing the "younger guys" instead of bringing in someone like Branch. The "younger guys" are Slater and Price.

Seems to me that bringing in Branch is at least a decisionmaking improvement in comparison to not bringing anyone in last year and going with Aiken as the WR3.

 

[coolguy]

Price was a slow starter at training camp. If he was 'lights out' in practise, this recycling move never woulda been made. Price will not be game active unless another Pats wideout is injured.

Wr3?
1 Tate
2 welker
3 branch?

Tate speed is amazing and if hester can be a good wr so can tate

 

[D-Money]

I wonder if the 49ers where willing to part with Michael Crabtree.The 49ers are going nowhere.This league has so many terrible coaches.

 

[mgcolby]

By that logic it is lose-lose for the Pats. They lose a pick and his salary is theirs to pay and they can't put their young guys on the field.

I agree with you on all points, especially the last one (getting the young guys on the field). I think the Pats would be better off playing the younger guys and I don't like the Pats paying Branch at a $5 mil a year rate or losing the pick.

I think it is a calculated risk by the Pats, it gives them an insurance policy if Tate/Edelman doesn't work out or if we suffer an injury. IMO, they don't think Price is ready to step in and play in case of an injury. I hope there was a contract restructuring invloved in the deal. But given there is no cap the money aspect really doesn't matter to me for this year.

I understand what you are saying and I would hope that Edelman would be in front of him, but I think Brady is going to want him on the field as much as possible.

IMO,

It will be Tate split out, Welker flanked offset with Hernandez in the slot -more often than not. In the case where 3 true WR's are on the field I think it will be Tate split out, Welker in the slot and Deion flanking.

But of course that is just speculation.

The pick is steep but this draft class is not thought to be a deep one and with so many picks in the first 4 rounds it lessens the blow, IMO.

 

[Patsrock]

By that logic it is lose-lose for the Pats. They lose a pick and his salary is theirs to pay and they can't put their young guys on the field.

I agree with you on all points, especially the last one (getting the young guys on the field). I think the Pats would be better off playing the younger guys and I don't like the Pats paying Branch at a $5 mil a year rate or losing the pick.

Well Branch is getting 3.75 million from Pats. Also this pick was not #1 which is hard to trade for. Getting a 4th round pick back, honestly is not a hard thing to get.
Not counting comp picks, since they can not be traded.
2010 19 of 32 picks in the 4th rd traded
2009 14 of 32 traded
2008 19 of 31 traded (San Diego used theirs in 07 Supplemental draft)
2007 17 of 32 traded

 

[emoney_33]

Not identical. Branch had about 10% less yards per game and catches per game with Seattle than with New England.
Deion Branch

Could you tell me how you computed this? I assume the formula would be:

(interceptions while targeting Branch) divided by (total times Branch was targeted)

Is that what you used? Do you have the numbers? I havde no idea where to find them. Thanks.

I didn't mean while targetting each of them. I just meant in an offense that featured Branch and an offense that featured Moss.

 

[Zeus]

Ok, but what if Price sucks right now? How would it help the team to put him out there as the WR3?

I thought Price came from a program with a very rudimentary passing game. Always thought it would take some time for him to learn the ins and outs of a sophisticated pro offense.