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AFCE contract news: D'Bust signs D'extension

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All of the Patriots RBs had a higher YPC than LT last season...

They all had a higher YPC than Sproles too.

Would you trade Faulk &/or Taylor for him?

Of course you would.
 
Jets have a deeper secondary.

The rest is debatable. Whose scrubs (kidding) are better? Don't care to debate it.

Please don't try to tell me there's another teams starter you think Maroney is better than?

Let's debate it. Here's the (projected) backups for the Patriots at each position:

DE: Mike Wright
NT: Ron Brace
OLB: Jermaine Cunningham or Rob Ninkovich
ILB: Gary Guyton or Tyrone McKenzie
CB: Devin McCourty
S: Brandon McGowan or James Sanders

Care you share yours?
 
Well, if you read the Football Outsiders write up you will see that they credit Faneca as the pulling G (their favorite player) as the primary reason for those stats.

He's definitely well above average at being a pulling guard, but bad at just about every other part of his game. And, FO also said that he's been terrible in pass protection, and that he wasn't going to do Leinart any favors. Which brings us to the main point: Faneca was the weak link in pass protection, Ferguson had to make up for Faneca's weakness more than he was aided by his strengths. Especially considering Faneca's strength, according to FO (objectively), was blocking on the other side of the line than Ferguson. And Faneca's weakness, according to FO (objectively), was pass-blocking right next to Ferguson.
 
They all had a higher YPC than Sproles too.

Would you trade Faulk &/or Taylor for him?

Of course you would.

If I wanted a running back to hand the ball off to, then no way. You decided to pick out a player that is a weapon in the passing game and on returns. LT is neither. I see no correlation.
 
Jets have a deeper secondary.

The rest is debatable. Whose scrubs (kidding) are better? Don't care to debate it.

Please don't try to tell me there's another teams starter you think Maroney is better than?

At this point, do we know Shonn Greene is better than Maroney? He has the potential to be, but there are no guarantees. During the regular season he was very hit or miss and only really shined in a blow out and against back ups. Just because he ran like a stud in a couple of games in the playoffs doesn't mean he will be when he becomes the lead back. Maroney had stretches as good as Greene had in the playoffs (see the 2007 season).
 
Let's debate it. Here's the (projected) backups for the Patriots at each position:

DE: Mike Wright
NT: Ron Brace
OLB: Jermaine Cunningham or Rob Ninkovich
ILB: Gary Guyton or Tyrone McKenzie
CB: Devin McCourty
S: Brandon McGowan or James Sanders

Care you share yours?

Sure.

DE: Gholston
NT: Pouha
OLB: Taylor or Westermann
ILB: Cummings or Laury
CB: Wilson / Lowery
S: Smith / Ihedigbo (Dig) / Lowery
 
Jets have a deeper secondary.

The rest is debatable. Whose scrubs (kidding) are better? Don't care to debate it.

Please don't try to tell me there's another teams starter you think Maroney is better than?
Your just talking crazy if you think depth is even close.

Your team wants to ignore it to, thats why the team that pays attention to it has dominated te division and league in the last decade and your is stuck in mediocrity.

Maroney is better than what the Bills have.
I don't know how you can say 100 carry Greene has proven he is better than Maroney.
Ronnie Brown is an injury concern and Ricky Williams is a fossil.
There is no clear cut ranking in this division without a lot of questins to answer.
 
A LT in your division inks an 8 year deal that averages out to under $10 per season.

It's not an 8 year deal. It's a 6 year EXTENSION that guarantees him 34.6 million.

Without seeing the structure, I'm sure it has the 8th year at somewhere between $10-13 million which he'll never see.

So basically, he signs a 7 year $60-63 million dollar deal and you Pasterisk fans have somehow decided you're excited about it.

Considering that you were WRONG about the length, the idea that D'Bust won't see the end of the contract is probably also wrong. Especially since 34.6 million of it is guaranteed. BTW, it's amazing how you are right about him not seeing the 8th year.. Since there isn't one..

It also pulls leverage away from Revis' argument that the Jets don't take care of their own, they signed their 2nd rounder today so are obviously in the midst of doing deals and whose to say Mangold isn't next?

Seems rather obvious he is.

How does it seem "obvious" that Mangold is next? Because they signed a draft pick?? That doesn't make it obvious. In fact, if anything, them taking care of D'Bust only says that D'Bust was willing to jump at the obscene money he's not worth.

But you spin doctors continue to pretend this is an exciting day in Pasterisk history.

Best of luck.


The only "spin doctor" here seems to be you and the Rats fans.... You with your incorrect statements and them with theirs.
 
It's not an 8 year deal. It's a 6 year EXTENSION that guarantees him 34.6 million.

The deal is good through the 2017 season.

Call it what you like. It's an eight year deal.



Considering that you were WRONG about the length, the idea that D'Bust won't see the end of the contract is probably also wrong. Especially since 34.6 million of it is guaranteed. BTW, it's amazing how you are right about him not seeing the 8th year.. Since there isn't one..

2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017

Can you count?
 
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last time the Green Morons saw Maroney he scored TWO TD's in a 31-14 humiliation of the backer-inners...using Green Moron logic, that means Maroney being the worst in the league means any other back would have gone at least TWICE the 80 yards on 22 carries and at least 4 TD's..which means the Rats actually suck far worse than it seems they already do.
 
last time the Green Morons saw Maroney he scored TWO TD's in a 31-14 humiliation of the backer-inners...using Green Moron logic, that means Maroney being the worst in the league means any other back would have gone at least TWICE the 80 yards on 22 carries and at least 4 TD's..which means the Rats actually suck far worse than it seems they already do.

Two goal line TD's.

Woopty friggin' do.

He produced 7 throughout the rest of the season.

It's obvious the guy is a stud
 
They all had a higher YPC than Sproles too.

Would you trade Faulk &/or Taylor for him?

Of course you would.

It depends.
If I want a KR I want Sproles.
If I want an everydown RB I take Taylor.
IF I want a 3rd down back, I take Faulk.
It really isnt even close in any of the 3.
 
it is an extension whose first year doesn't kick in until 2012 and depending on the wording on the guaranteed portion, it could all hit on 2010, so by the books, it could turn out to be very pedestrian by the time 2013 and 2014 roll around.
 
It depends.
If I want a KR I want Sproles.
If I want an everydown RB I take Taylor.
IF I want a 3rd down back, I take Faulk.
It really isnt even close in any of the 3.

So why couldn't the scat back in a passing offense garner a decent YPC?

Their line was simply that bad.

Sorry if you missed the point at hand.
 
Two goal line TD's.

Woopty friggin' do.

He produced 7 throughout the rest of the season.

It's obvious the guy is a stud

Good enough to stomp your pathetic "defense" for 2 scores where the running is supposedly the hardest. You're getting beaten to a bloody green pulp.
 
It's an assumption. But probably a correct one.

Really? I doubt it. In eight years, his last year of a deal may be a bargain.



Funny how that works. Usually when doing new deals, teams are constantly breaking records given that the cap is always increasing.

Ummm.... The reason is there is a chance there will be no football in 2011 is because the cap is getting too big. Odds are the new CBA will have a cap that doesn't grow nearly as much and the Jets might be in trouble since Ferguson, Mangold, and Revis and possibly Harris will demand top salaries at their position while other high profile free agents are getting to the big contract years of their contracts.



He was always going to get top dollar. Brick is making less than $10 per. Revis will make around $13 per.

Except the Jets aren't offering Revis anywhere near $13 million a year and Revis won't take that little.


Ferguson was a disappointment after his rookie season. Steadily increasing as a LT throughout the last four seasons. Favre holding onto the ball like a cowboy and a horrid pass blocker on the inside (great mentor though) didn't phase him the last two seasons. He's good. Very good.



The Jets gave Revis a shot. They never promised him he'd sign the deal they gave him. They just said they'd provide one.

I didn't know when they said that getting Revis a contract this offseason really meant offering a lowball deal and peissing him off. Brilliant strategy.

They never went to Mangold by the way. They haven't contacted his agent. Don't believe me? Ask Nick Mangold. He's said it directly to the press.

I stand corrected. But according to Newsday last month, the Jets seem to be heading toward a franchise tag on Mangold in 2011.

Jets item

Funny how you chowders keep going on and on about sh!t you have no idea about.


Sorry, I forgot that is Jets fans job. Don't mean to steal your thunder. Feel free to show how clueless you are. Could you continue to enlighten us how the league are trying to convince the NFLPA to do away with the salary cap so they can spend more money and the cap is limiting them on how much they can pay the players?
 
Light may not even be able to stay on the field next season.

That's what happens when you start heading up the age hill.

*ROFLMAO* Yes, because Light has such an injury history that we should expect him to miss many games..

Of course, you don't stay on point to the message you replied to and that is that Light was better over the past 4 years than D'Bust. And before you talk about Sacks allowed, make sure you look at how many PASSING PLAYS the teams had so you have some perspective. I know that is something that opposing fans don't like to do because it usually sinks them before they get started.
 
Good enough to stomp your pathetic "defense" for 2 scores where the running is supposedly the hardest. You're getting beaten to a bloody green pulp.

Your all star RB scored 7 TD's in 15 games and I'm the one beaten and bloody?

Jesus, who knew.
 
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