2010 wide receivers to start the year

[DaBruinz]

Tate is seriously injured for the second time in two years. We have no idea when he will be back. I seriously doubt that he will be back for the beginning of Training Camp. My GUESS is that he will again start the season on the PUP list.

Where did you get that Tate was seriously injured? My understanding was that the Pats shut him down because they didn't like where his knee was at and wanted him to re-hab it more..

Do you have a link?

 

[DaBruinz]

Heres a list of free agent WRs:
Brandon Marshall (RFA)
Vincent Jackson (RFA)
Miles Austin (RFA)
Braylon Edwards (RFA)
Terrell Owens
Antonio Bryant
Derrick Mason
Steve Breaston (RFA)
Malcom Floyd (RFA)
Kevin Walter

Most of these guys I cannot see their current teams letting them go. I dont think Marshall would be a good fit here.

Some possibilities IMO are, Bryant, Floyd and Breaston (if Cards let him go).

I put in red the players who are RFAs as of right now.

Mason is too old. Bryant is a possibility. Walter is a pseudo-Welker type player..

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

Where did you get that Tate was seriously injured? My understanding was that the Pats shut him down because they didn't like where his knee was at and wanted him to re-hab it more..

Do you have a link?

All we know is what Reiss SPECULATED which was a ligament issue in the other knee. Could be a torn ACL but it could have been a torn MCL. Or Reiss' information could have been wrong.

If someone knows anything more I'd love to see it because I don't think it exists. I also still think if Tate had ACL surgery again we would have heard about it.

This post has the link to what Reiss wrote :

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...-quick-brandon-tate-question.html#post1630898

 

[Mack Herron]

All we know is what Reiss SPECULATED which was a ligament issue in the other knee. Could be a torn ACL but it could have been a torn MCL. Or Reiss' information could have been wrong.

If someone knows anything more I'd love to see it because I don't think it exists. I also still think if Tate had ACL surgery again we would have heard about it.

This post has the link to what Reiss wrote :

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...-quick-brandon-tate-question.html#post1630898

Tate would be a question mark without his injury.

 

[Simkin]

You left out Brandon Tate.

Career end injury. It's a pity, cause he plays less snaps than Bethel or Chad Jackson do .

1 Moss
2-Marshall
Slot-Edelman
Deep Threat - Lee Evans

 

[upstater1]

I prefer rookies as well. The vets all seem set in their ways. We can go back to Donald Hayes straight through to Donte Stallworth and Joey Galloway. They don't work out often. Welker is another story. At best, you hope to find another David Patten.

But this offense did quite well with Deon Branch and David Givens, so I say, let Tommy work with marginally talented rooks, and that's the way to develop a receiving corp.

I'm all for drafting 3 WRs in the middle rounds next year. Mike Wallace, Deon Butler, Austin Collie, Johnny Knox, all went 3 to 5 rounds, so there is talent available there. You might have to take a scattershot approach just to find one or two, but it's not like the Patriots value 4th and 5th round picks highly anyway.

 

[dhamz]

Moss isn't worth half of his $11M cap hit.

Moss cap hit next year will be $0.00 - same as everyone else in the 2010 NFL season.

 

[upstater1]

Career end injury. It's a pity, cause he plays less snaps than Bethel or Chad Jackson do .

1 Moss
2-Marshall
Slot-Edelman
Deep Threat - Lee Evans

Evans makes $10 million a year.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

Tate would be a question mark without his injury.

I know and I argued for a top pick (or FA) on the draft board before Welker got hurt. But people need to stop saying he had another major (ACL) injury unless they can provide something behind it.

 

[DaBruinz]

Career end injury. It's a pity, cause he plays less snaps than Bethel or Chad Jackson do .

1 Moss
2-Marshall
Slot-Edelman
Deep Threat - Lee Evans

Dude - you smoking some serious weed with that. First off, how do you know Tate suffered a career ending injury? Especially when the best info we have says a ligament injury in the other knee.

As for Marshall AND Evans.. it's not happening. Marshall is a restricted free agent.

I could see adding Evans. He runs very good routes and has good hands.. And would be a good threat opposite Moss or instead of Moss.

 

[JackBauer]

Also, the comment in this thread about Randy Moss not being worth half his salary is laughable and makes PatsFans.com's messageboards look really bad.

It's captain stone. Nothing he writes is or has ever been worth reading.

 

[DaBruinz]

I prefer rookies as well. The vets all seem set in their ways. We can go back to Donald Hayes straight through to Donte Stallworth and Joey Galloway. They don't work out often. Welker is another story. At best, you hope to find another David Patten.

But this offense did quite well with Deon Branch and David Givens, so I say, let Tommy work with marginally talented rooks, and that's the way to develop a receiving corp.

I'm all for drafting 3 WRs in the middle rounds next year. Mike Wallace, Deon Butler, Austin Collie, Johnny Knox, all went 3 to 5 rounds, so there is talent available there. You might have to take a scattershot approach just to find one or two, but it's not like the Patriots value 4th and 5th round picks highly anyway.

I'd love to see BB's draft board from just ONE draft. It would go a LONG way into helping people understand how he looks at things..

Personally, WR is a smaller issue than LB (need a ILB and OLB), O-line (need a center and guards. Possibly a tackle) and D-line (need a top end DE). I'd like to see those areas addressed before they look at WR.

 

[BradyManny]

Moss
Free Agent #1
Edelman
Free Agent #2
Aiken

I expect us to sign three free agents in hopes of ending up with two on the roster. Last year, we drafted two, traded for one and drafted one for two roster spots which we ended up filling with Edelman and Galloway.

Edelman is the keeper from the four options in 2009.
And we need to do this all over again in 2010 for the same same position!

I generally agree. But I don't want to see Aiken on the football field as a receiver for this team unless he improves dramatically. Too often it looks like he runs poor routes, isn't prepared for the ball, and can't come down with it when he goes up for it. He has subpar hands, and only has marginal speed vertically, and poor speed laterally. He's a great STer.

There was a time when this team had 5 legitimate NFL wide receivers (Branch, Givens, Brown, Patten, Bethel) and aside from PR/KR duties, none contributed on ST (in the manner Aiken/K. Wash do). We ran much less 3 or 4 wide sets back then, and this still was our depth chart. Now, we try to run the spread offense with 3+ wideouts half of our snaps, yet our #3 wideout is a career STer? That MUST change this offseason.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

I'd still like Golden Tate, he is a great YAC guy and you'd have to think he would have an easier time than most rookie WR as he's played for Weiss.

 

[JackBauer]

I generally agree. But I don't want to see Aiken on the football field as a receiver for this team unless he improves dramatically. Too often it looks like he runs poor routes, isn't prepared for the ball, and can't come down with it when he goes up for it. He has subpar hands, and only has marginal speed vertically, and poor speed laterally. He's a great STer.

There was a time when this team had 5 legitimate NFL wide receivers (Branch, Givens, Brown, Patten, Bethel) and aside from PR/KR duties, none contributed on ST (in the manner Aiken/K. Wash do). We ran much less 3 or 4 wide sets back then, and this still was our depth chart. Now, we try to run the spread offense with 3+ wideouts half of our snaps, yet our #3 wideout is a career STer? That MUST change this offseason.

Yeah, you know. That Bethel Johnson, totally legit NFL WR.

 

[Jimke]

Moss
Free Agent #1
Edelman
Free Agent #2
Aiken

I expect us to sign three free agents in hopes of ending up with two on the roster. Last year, we drafted two, traded for one and drafted one for two roster spots which we ended up filling with Edelman and Galloway.

Edelman is the keeper from the four options in 2009.
And we need to do this all over again in 2010 for the same same position!

I hope Nick Moore and Robert Ortiz are not the two free agents

you mentioned.

 

[ayjackson]

I'd still like Golden Tate, he is a great YAC guy and you'd have to think he would have an easier time than most rookie WR as he's played for Weiss.

I'm thinking our offense has morphed quite a bit since the Weis years, but I'm not sure. I'd like to think our offense can morph quite a bit next year. We don't seem to hit receivers on the run any more, just ask them to sit into space.

 

[upstater1]

I'd love to see BB's draft board from just ONE draft. It would go a LONG way into helping people understand how he looks at things..

Personally, WR is a smaller issue than LB (need a ILB and OLB), O-line (need a center and guards. Possibly a tackle) and D-line (need a top end DE). I'd like to see those areas addressed before they look at WR.

I'm more comfortable with Mayo and Guyton out there than I am with Sam Aiken and Isaiah Stanback. That being said, I did write middle round guys for WR, and I certainly want a couple DE/OLB in the top four picks, so we're covered.

The way to avoid bombing out on WRs in the first and second round is to draft them in the 4th or 5th round, LOL.

 

[tanked_as_usual]

josh reed would not be a bad pickup......

then draft ricardo lockette

 

[Deus Irae]

I know and I argued for a top pick (or FA) on the draft board before Welker got hurt. But people need to stop saying he had another major (ACL) injury unless they can provide something behind it.

The injury was serious enough to put the kid on IR with plenty of time left in the season. Given that Patriots injury information is more aggressively protected than the U.S. nuclear launch codes, all people can do is speculate. It's the reality of the situation.